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dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
18. After the difference between how he campaigned in 2008...
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 04:54 AM
Dec 2011

and how he's governed, I think we as a party have no self-respect if we don't do everything in our power to primary him from the left.

I can see that it ain't gonna happen (barring a miracle), but that doesn't diminish the need for it to happen.

I watched Democracy Now (as usual) during the week they were broadcasting from the recent climate change summit in South Africa. The whole week, it was one person after another with their jaw wide open (or their jaw clamped fearfully shut) wondering why the hell the U.S. wouldn't get out of the way of meaningful greenhouse gas reduction. Finally one of them spoke up and said behind the scenes they are calling him George W. Obama, because his policies re climate change are pretty much identical.

This is true on issue after issue. Those that don't agree are entitled to their opinion, as I am to mine. But this president is an order of magnitude worse than anything I can support in good conscience. His policies aren't even in the correct direction, they're just getting us to the same horrible places, perhaps a little slower and boiling us frogs a little more gradually than the inartful Republicans would do.

When the general election comes around, I have no idea if I'll vote for Obama or not. Probably not, I don't think I can. For me the primaries are where it's at. We need to take this party back from the corporations, who could not care less about any of us unless there's a buck to be made. There's no way around it, they rule by coercion, by deceit, by eliminating all meaningful alternatives, and by the brute force of their wealth.

We must Occupy the Democratic Party, because the party has shown itself incapable or unwilling to serve the interests of the 99%, which is its raison d'etre.

You could decide just to drink the water. Bonobo Dec 2011 #1
But eventually, we all have to eat. Burgman Dec 2011 #2
You can survive for weeks without food. You'd be surprised. Bonobo Dec 2011 #6
I feel that the down side of seeing Dem #'s dropping off enough to get the Plutocracy's Burgman Dec 2011 #8
And I totally hear you about that. Bonobo Dec 2011 #10
I very much feel we may be on the same page here. Burgman Dec 2011 #11
+1 nt Bonobo Dec 2011 #15
If we alone were eating DonCoquixote Dec 2011 #17
Both parties look at results Scootaloo Dec 2011 #20
Or you could go to the other restaurant, where they only cater to the rich. Kurmudgeon Dec 2011 #3
again, another supporter telling people they either ARE Republican or should vote Republican StarsInHerHair Dec 2011 #5
Yeah, it was too idiotic to even deserve a reply. nt Bonobo Dec 2011 #7
they are skeered Skittles Dec 2011 #9
what is that, a slang term? I'm unfamiliar with it StarsInHerHair Dec 2011 #12
skeered=scared ScreamingMeemie Dec 2011 #13
Same as skeert. Burgman Dec 2011 #14
ok, thanks ScreemingMeemie & Burgman StarsInHerHair Dec 2011 #16
Well, when that's what their position amounts to, why not call them on it? Scootaloo Dec 2011 #21
K'd & R'd DeathToTheOil Dec 2011 #4
After the difference between how he campaigned in 2008... dreamnightwind Dec 2011 #18
You must be new, you will be eaten alive! akbacchus_BC Dec 2011 #19
NO!! he is either the prince of righteousness or the spawn of satan - there is no room for the Douglas Carpenter Dec 2011 #22
K & R Scurrilous Dec 2011 #23
I consider voting for a centrist to be "throwing my vote away". Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2011 #24
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