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In reply to the discussion: God damn it. How the hell do you get blindsided by your own f%$#@*g legislation??? [View all]Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)127. You don't matter, nor do the tens of millions of working poor about to be hammered...
With an extra bill they CANNOT afford on their Walmart or Target or Home Depot or Lowes or McDonalds salaries. You know, America's largest employers, all grinding their workers part time at $8 or $9 an hour. That's the group getting absolutely bent over. The single mom working at Target trying to figure out how to get by on 17K a year, who now suddenly discovers that she has a fifty or hundred dollar a month Obamacare bill to fit in as well. And if she doesn't she gets HAMMERED with a fine.
And Democrats are saying she needs to learn to budget her money better.
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God damn it. How the hell do you get blindsided by your own f%$#@*g legislation??? [View all]
WilliamPitt
Nov 2013
OP
Maybe if the insurance commissioners had done their jobs in the past, we wouldn't need this.
Hoyt
Nov 2013
#248
A law requiring insurance companies to extend policies may be unconstitutional.
FarCenter
Nov 2013
#33
He has the regulatory authority to rewrite the regs that made the policies not grandfathered
Yo_Mama
Nov 2013
#61
There is a GOP-sponsored House bill and a Democrat-sponsored Senate Bill in the works
Gore1FL
Nov 2013
#168
Not all of the canceled plans are *junk*. I'm growing a bit weary of this talking point. Some of
SlimJimmy
Nov 2013
#162
thank you for that post - it really is just a talking point now and way too simplified at best.
covadcalifornia
Nov 2013
#176
Welcome to DU. I can tell you than many here will defend the ACA until death. The problem is
SlimJimmy
Nov 2013
#241
Even on DU, many people don't want to pay more for the good of those poorer than them
Democat
Nov 2013
#80
The insurance industry purposefully conflated issues of their profits with our altruism.
Romulox
Nov 2013
#95
and just how do you think that will happen? The media has already brainwashed the public with
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#58
Well, it doesn't help when the only plan being pushed was the Heritage Foundation's brainchild
NuclearDem
Nov 2013
#62
Let me make it clear, I wish we had single payer. However, there was no way it was going to happen.
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#66
I agree! Why not stand up and fight for the ACA? Why not stand up to the fucking insurance industry?
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#97
I'm talking about what the ACA does to keep the industry in check. While not perfect, it at least
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#179
In theory, yes, but not all in practice. Not all insurance companies did that. The ACA mandates that
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#184
That may be true, then why don't they vote for representatives that favor single payer?
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#104
"Hillarycare" ended up winning but she didn't. Why? And Hillycare lost bigtime in 1994. I agree that
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#183
That is the best description and explanation I have heard on this issue.
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#239
Why not Medicare for Everyone. The system is already in place and who doesn't like Medicare?
SammyWinstonJack
Nov 2013
#82
It is CHEAPER than insurance. No profit. You pay tax instead of premiums. Simple.
RBInMaine
Nov 2013
#215
The Myth of the War of the Worlds Panic <You mean the real history, or the myth?
jtuck004
Nov 2013
#144
I think the way the law was written caused many policies to get caught in a bigger net
TwilightGardener
Nov 2013
#12
They didn't. This is the insurance companies cancelling policies and using ACA as cover.
yellowcanine
Nov 2013
#13
I agree with this. Because Obama is apologizing for something that he has no reason to apologize for
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#189
I laugh at your supposed knowledge on this subject. You have no idea what you're talking about
Pretzel_Warrior
Nov 2013
#122
keep in mind that your point of view is not universal, nor necessarily true for anyone
Voice for Peace
Nov 2013
#132
Even if the rollout had gone much more smoothly, they'd amplify and trumpet ANYTHING
TwilightGardener
Nov 2013
#27
But the cancellations mean they'll have to handle a few hundred thousand enrollments a day
FarCenter
Nov 2013
#31
Right--that's why it was a one-two punch the administration didn't see coming.
TwilightGardener
Nov 2013
#36
I kind of have to discount anything you say, because you've been cheerleading for ACA failure
TwilightGardener
Nov 2013
#47
No. Bill Clinton made things much worse. He should shut up and sit down somewhere.
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#190
I'm not. I'd rather people with shit plans pay 10x more for new policies...
HijackedLabel
Nov 2013
#28
Someone really needed to make sure the launch was perfect...or pretty damn close...
joeybee12
Nov 2013
#41
Actually, political fear of mistakes was a major part of the flawed end-product.
TwilightGardener
Nov 2013
#42
Private insurers are the absolute worst feature of US healthcare. Who thought mandating a purchase
Romulox
Nov 2013
#43
No one could have predicted that private insurers and Republicans would bork the ACA rollout
Fumesucker
Nov 2013
#46
But if we mandate you to pay weekly fees to muggers in your neighborhood, they won't be as violent!
JVS
Nov 2013
#173
Settle the fuck down. Remember the rolling disaster of Iraq? THAT'S a quagmire
Pretzel_Warrior
Nov 2013
#63
I'm pretty sure that in 2009 they chose 2013 and later implementation dates for a reason
FarCenter
Nov 2013
#73
You don't matter, nor do the tens of millions of working poor about to be hammered...
Demo_Chris
Nov 2013
#127
You can read it here as well. We need to scrap this crap and get single payer. nt
Demo_Chris
Nov 2013
#206
you keep making this point but I'm wondering if you have laid it all out here so we can know what
Voice for Peace
Nov 2013
#147
oooh intriguing.. it must be an evil conspiracy theory if it's banned here
Voice for Peace
Nov 2013
#149
It's not like the Heritage Foundation was the first or only national health care plan put in writing
libdem4life
Nov 2013
#87
Which legislators wrote the bill? And why are they allowing Obama to take the blame for it?
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#96
When the president signs the bill he has ultimate responsibility for it. n/t
totodeinhere
Nov 2013
#119
Because they didn't spend months running around the country lying about what it said...
Demo_Chris
Nov 2013
#148
I think the ACA is better than what was before, but blaming it on lobbyists is bull. Politicians
lostincalifornia
Nov 2013
#118
The same way they were so utterly surprised that red states would turn down Medicaid expansion. n/t
winter is coming
Nov 2013
#108
It looks even worse when, if you think back, repukes were claiming people were going
hughee99
Nov 2013
#136
I think they just underestimated the volume to which the small number of individual plans
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2013
#146
He needs to direct that to Bill Clinton who still holds a grudge that this black man won!
Liberal_Stalwart71
Nov 2013
#191
Why are people acting like this is another Great Betrayal by the Master Spelunker?
Whisp
Nov 2013
#160
re:God damn it. How the hell do you get blindsided by your own f%$#@*g legislation??? View profile
allan01
Nov 2013
#156
You mean smartest-man-in-the-room Obama and his Ivy League administration...
WorseBeforeBetter
Nov 2013
#192
The hurricanes started somplace else, like the east coast, and blew a big bunch of wind
fadedrose
Nov 2013
#198
Yes, they did indeed write it. The problem though, is that they did not READ it after they wrote it.
Chuck Smythe
Nov 2013
#217
You get blindsided when the Teabagging Press start yelping to satisfy their corporate masters.
tsuki
Nov 2013
#220
Saying "insurance companies wrote it" (or like it) is like saying "politicians" did
Recursion
Nov 2013
#230