Still trying to prove Oswald was a hero, Octafish? (Reply #51)

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Thu Nov 14, 2013, 01:57 PM

zappaman (20,602 posts)

51. Still trying to prove Oswald was a hero, Octafish?

How's that going?

"As for Oswald, I don't know if he was a hero in all this or not."
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JFK Conference: John McAdams, debunks the nonsense [View all]	zappaman	Nov 2013	OP
...........	Pretzel_Warrior	Nov 2013	#1
Certainly was rude of him	zappaman	Nov 2013	#2
Was puking at the JFK garbage--not this debunker.	Pretzel_Warrior	Nov 2013	#3
Well, some people think Oswald may have been a hero!	zappaman	Nov 2013	#5
DU rec...nt	SidDithers	Nov 2013	#4
Sure is a lot more truthier than Mark Lane, eh? n/t	zappaman	Nov 2013	#144
I have read through much of his website....	HooptieWagon	Nov 2013	#6
CTers hate this guy.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#7
No doubt they do.	HooptieWagon	Nov 2013	#17
True enough.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#112
sounds like this guy has a pre-determined conclusion	lame54	Nov 2013	#155
No. It sounds like the guy looked at the evidence....	HooptieWagon	Nov 2013	#161
Not based on the links given	lame54	Nov 2013	#163
As many people have.	zappaman	Dec 2013	#178
I go by the secret service that was called off JFK's car	Politicalboi	Nov 2013	#8
Forget about being called off! Apparently, the secret service actually shot him!	zappaman	Nov 2013	#9
Yes I've heard that or the Governor shot him LOL!	Politicalboi	Nov 2013	#16
I went to the first assassination symposium in Dallas in 1991.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#18
Whoa. Pretty incredible.	Wilms	Nov 2013	#24
Nope.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#26
Was that an attempt to answer the question?	EOTE	Nov 2013	#42
Yes.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#43
I was referring to this one:	EOTE	Nov 2013	#45
Someone answered it in #28. n/t	zappaman	Nov 2013	#47
Not really. That's pretty much entirely debunked info.	EOTE	Nov 2013	#49
The HSCA was absolutely wrong about the conspiracy. Their finding	stopbush	Nov 2013	#56
Ahhh, so the HSCA was absolutely wrong about everything...	EOTE	Nov 2013	#58
Typical CTists with your either/or, black-and-white framing of things.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#60
Again, they were wrong about the things you disagreed with.	EOTE	Nov 2013	#61
??? Of course you suggested that I said that.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#62
Excuse me, but the HSCA was wrong about the validity of the Dictabelt evidence	stopbush	Nov 2013	#66
This has been posted hundereds of times on DU alone.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#73
They're just like the climate change deniers and the supply side economic supporters.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#76
Agreed!	zappaman	Nov 2013	#113
+1000. Truth is a buffet. Awesome.	GoneFishin	Nov 2013	#126
The Warren Commission called out the SS...	HooptieWagon	Nov 2013	#78
No, it doesn't. n/t	zappaman	Nov 2013	#132
My Personal Favorite	RobinA	Nov 2013	#127
They were minutes from entering a freeway	hack89	Nov 2013	#21
All covered in the WCR and explained by the SS agents themselves over the years.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#28
"Maybe JFK himself was in on the conspiracy!"	zappaman	Nov 2013	#117
Clearly JFK shot Connolly.	Bolo Boffin	Nov 2013	#119
Well,	RobinA	Nov 2013	#128
yes	zappaman	Nov 2013	#129
So the article never gets into what McAdams believes or his evidence.	Rex	Nov 2013	#10
His site is very extensive and is mentioned in the article.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#11
I said I agree with his conspiracy theory	Rex	Nov 2013	#12
Understood.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#14
I will look it over, I bet I agree with more of what he says	Rex	Nov 2013	#15
There are lots of us out here who don't buy the conspiracy b.s.	duffyduff	Nov 2013	#13
EVERYTHING leads to Oswald as the lone killer.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#143
McAdams is right: it is a hobby, a parlor game	alcibiades_mystery	Nov 2013	#19
Yes, but for some it becomes an obsession.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#36
It would be more fun to poke CTers with their silliness if not for	Nuclear Unicorn	Nov 2013	#20
True.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#22
Saint McAdams gets reviewed	McXorsett	Nov 2013	#23
The review reads like the pouting of a petulant child	stopbush	Nov 2013	#30
Interesting link. Thx for posting. He's done a pretty thorough analysis.	solarhydrocan	Nov 2013	#31
Haven't visited, but I've heard many say that they're surprise at what a short distance	stopbush	Nov 2013	#32
Link?	Rex	Nov 2013	#33
As I said in the post, that's what the SS agents themselves	stopbush	Nov 2013	#35
I've lived in Fort Worth for 25 years.	MicaelS	Nov 2013	#40
As far as using the optical site goes,	stopbush	Nov 2013	#41
Agreed. n/t	MicaelS	Nov 2013	#44
Very possible! n/t	zappaman	Nov 2013	#116
I have. And the conundrum is why didn't the shooter in the window shoot him on Houston Street.	Zen Democrat	Nov 2013	#177
I dunno his site is pretty good, he knows his subject very well.	Rex	Nov 2013	#34
Hey kewl! A JFK CT iPhone App for only $0.99	The Midway Rebel	Nov 2013	#67
TIME-LIFE spread the original Big Lie	Octafish	Nov 2013	#25
Mark Lane spread the original big lies blaming a conspiracy.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#27
Apparently, anybody and everybody who was around at the time of the assassination	stopbush	Nov 2013	#29
Goofus Believes the Church Committee Report, Gallant Profits By Writing Books on the Subject.	FSogol	Nov 2013	#38
How is this not been made into a major motion picture? n/t	zappaman	Nov 2013	#74
LOL, Someone get Vince Vaughn and Adam Sandler's agents on the phone.	FSogol	Nov 2013	#75
Actually I know the reason...	zappaman	Nov 2013	#77
Garry Cleveland Myers (the writer of Goofus/Gallant) created Highlights Magazine too.	FSogol	Nov 2013	#80
Yeah	zappaman	Nov 2013	#82
What a chump.	FSogol	Nov 2013	#83
Goofus blames the BFEE for everything	zappaman	Nov 2013	#86
I don't understand why you make fun of the BFEE, zappaman.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#98
Not making fun of the BFEE, Octafish.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#99
Your words, zappaman.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#100
Thank you for kicking!	zappaman	Nov 2013	#101
Judging by what's in this thread, you've really not much to brag about, zappaman.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#102
Thanks again!	zappaman	Nov 2013	#104
If TIME-LIFE were honest, they'd address CIA-Mafia assassination plots.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#108
For those intersted in learning more	zappaman	Nov 2013	#111
"There's evidence their ancestors were slave holders"...so?	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2013	#103
Explains a lot. NT	Octafish	Nov 2013	#105
About Bill Clinton, or Barack Obama?	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2013	#106
About the mindset of someone who can't argue their points.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#107
That's why I put it in my Journal.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#109
Good job!	zappaman	Nov 2013	#110
I do have a journal, my friend.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#138
Wow. Four items and two are about me.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#140
Thank you and thank you for the kick my friend!	zappaman	Nov 2013	#141
LOL, I honestly cannot tell if you really believe this crap. Nt	Logical	Nov 2013	#37
John McAdams on ''Gay Parenting''	Octafish	Nov 2013	#39
If you're going to take McAdams to task on that,	stopbush	Nov 2013	#46
CTers can't counter McAdams since he is presenting facts they don't like.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#48
What attack? Those are his own words, zappaman.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#50
Still trying to prove Oswald was a hero, Octafish?	zappaman	Nov 2013	#51
Here's what CIA said about Oswald in Mexico City in October 1963...	Octafish	Nov 2013	#52
thank you for kicking!	zappaman	Nov 2013	#53
No. The record shows CIA planted a false story ahead of the assassination.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#54
Thanks for kicking!	zappaman	Nov 2013	#55
No. The record shows CIA planted a false story ahead of the assassination.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#57
Thanks for the kick!	zappaman	Nov 2013	#59
Do you run a major website with all this information?	snooper2	Nov 2013	#65
No. But, thanks for asking.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#69
Do you have a source for the CIA saying that was LHO in that Mexico City photo?	stopbush	Nov 2013	#63
That lasted about a day.	Bolo Boffin	Nov 2013	#64
No, evidence showing CIA monitoring Oswald BEFORE the assassination has held up for 50 years.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#70
No doubt the CIA was keeping an eye on him.	HooptieWagon	Nov 2013	#81
Here you go.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#68
Not helpful. The question is whether the CIA identified the mystery man as Oswald.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#79
Read "The Man Who Knew Too Much" by Dick Russell	Octafish	Nov 2013	#85
So the CIA and FBI fucked up?	zappaman	Nov 2013	#87
Why can't you just answer the question simply and directly?	stopbush	Nov 2013	#88
In my estimation...	HooptieWagon	Nov 2013	#89
I agree it was a simple screw-up.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#90
Yep. Occam's Razor.	HooptieWagon	Nov 2013	#91
Don't worry...	zappaman	Nov 2013	#92
PLUS, the conspirators knew in advance to get the USMC to score Oswald	stopbush	Nov 2013	#93
See? The conspiracy to kill President Kennedy....	HooptieWagon	Nov 2013	#94
Well, they were concerned when JFK went through that spinal surgery in 1954,	stopbush	Nov 2013	#95
Could the conspirators have also forged Obama's birth certificate....	HooptieWagon	Nov 2013	#96
That is indeed a likely scenario...	zappaman	Nov 2013	#97
Absolutely! Oswald was stationed in the Pacific...	HooptieWagon	Nov 2013	#114
Hmmmm....	zappaman	Nov 2013	#115
Thats it! ENIGMA!	HooptieWagon	Nov 2013	#120
The real money is to be made at conferences.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#122
It's all about time and propinquity.	nyquil_man	Nov 2013	#121
You gotta hand it to them!	zappaman	Nov 2013	#145
No answer?	zappaman	Nov 2013	#118
"Rearward motion"...nonsense	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2013	#71
+1	zappaman	Nov 2013	#72
Then there's the high contrast image produced from frame 313:	nyquil_man	Nov 2013	#84
Interesting that CTers won't touch this one.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#123
Because it ruins their fun. CTs are exciting and fun. Most the time the truth is not. n-t	Logical	Nov 2013	#124
Too true. n/t	zappaman	Nov 2013	#125
Also, CTs give JFK's death meaning.	HooptieWagon	Nov 2013	#133
The idea that Oswald "may have been a hero"	zappaman	Nov 2013	#134
Yep. nt	HooptieWagon	Nov 2013	#135
Yes, almost as sickening as claiming LBJ was a part of a conspiracy to kill JFK. nt	The Midway Rebel	Nov 2013	#139
Not just LBJ...	zappaman	Nov 2013	#142
So true. A $22 rifle changed the world. People hate that. n-t	Logical	Nov 2013	#136
A $22 rifle and a malcontent.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#137
Oh my God, that poor woman!	thucythucy	Nov 2013	#130
"I can't believe anyone on DU would even come close to suggesting Oswald might have been "a hero."	zappaman	Nov 2013	#131
Of course, no answer.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#146
For you? Why bother?	Octafish	Nov 2013	#147
Still following me around, Octafish?	zappaman	Nov 2013	#148
You know what they say about imitation?	Octafish	Nov 2013	#151
Thanks for the kick, Octafish!	zappaman	Nov 2013	#162
Except you weren't there. And John McAdams did not make a presentation.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#165
thanks for the kick!	zappaman	Nov 2013	#173
You know what would be nice?	DanTex	Nov 2013	#149
You know what would be even nicer?	Octafish	Nov 2013	#150
That's the thing with conspiracy theorists. When confronted with evidence, they change the subject.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#152
What evidence? You challenging me to do your work?	Octafish	Nov 2013	#153
The evidence that the head shot came from the front.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#156
Then bring it up with zappaman. It's his post.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#157
"You have no idea what I know." That's correct. That's why I'm asking.	DanTex	Nov 2013	#159
Since Octafish seems to want me to answer for him...	zappaman	Nov 2013	#168
Where to start?	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2013	#167
David Atlee Phillips said that. Italian firearms experts said the other.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#169
Who is David Attlee Philips? Who are these Italian firearms "experts"?	Spider Jerusalem	Nov 2013	#171
You won't get an answer.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#175
Yep. Octafish is a huge practitioner of the CT whack-a-mole technique.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#154
stopbush prosecutions.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#158
I have no idea what your post even means.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#160
It means that ever since I welcomed you to DU, I've yet to see you criticize the BFEE.	Octafish	Nov 2013	#164
I think the BFEE is to the 2000s what the Tri-lateral Commission was to the 1970s.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#166
That must be why John McAdams hosts this BFEE thread of mine on his own debunking website...	Octafish	Nov 2013	#170
Facts are facts, Octa, social skills or not notwithstanding.	stopbush	Nov 2013	#172
Why are facts needed?	zappaman	Nov 2013	#174
I noticed that from the very first days on DU too.	Rex	Dec 2013	#179
Also likes to accuse people of being told to come here.	zappaman	Nov 2013	#176
50 years later	zappaman	Dec 2013	#180

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