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tishaLA

(14,342 posts)
10. I don't try to one-up people on here
Mon Dec 19, 2011, 02:15 AM
Dec 2011

I save that for other places. I'll leave aside where I disagree with some of what you say about Foucault for a moment--especially about questions of assujettissement--just to say this: Foucauldian conceptions of power are, in not small measure, derived from those Deleuze and Guattari explored in Anti-Oedipus: Capitalism and Schizophrenia. Foucault wrote the preface to the book, which he called (I think I'm remembering this correctly) a "guide to anti-fascist living." In part, it's because of the kinds of metaphors Foucault uses to describe power in Panopticism: he says it's an "physics" or an "anatomy," meaning that it is, on the one hand, something that responds to each action with its own reaction and, on the other, a mode of particularizing, dividing, etc. I don't believe either of those metaphors is apt--and it's why I have always believed, along with Foucault, that Deleuze is the great philosopher of the 20th century while Foucault is a footnote to the Nietzschean oeuvre.

The important thing about the relationship between Deleuzo-Guatarrian thought and OWS (or, for example, ACT-UP), without resorting to a sclerotic understanding of them, is the way nomadism and the importance of assemblaces are to them. Nomadism is about "becoming" in Deleuze and Guattari--it is dynamic, just as power is in Foucault, but it occurs at the differently. I've had a couple glasses of wine, so I'm not able to go into it with great depth here; I need to think with a clear head to articulate it in any kind of depth. For ideas about assemblages in Deleuze and Guattari, which is perhaps the best reason to believe their thinking about the matter more related to OWS than Foucault's, check [link: http://larvalsubjects.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/deleuze-on-assemblages/|here]. It's the strategy of contingent alliances, etc.

Most excellent Remember Me Dec 2011 #1
Thanks, I appreciate your remarks. nt Deep13 Dec 2011 #5
Or, is OWS a solipsistic post-structural deconstruction of the system... JCMach1 Dec 2011 #9
A couple years ago, I read Foucault for a Political Theory class. backscatter712 Dec 2011 #2
I especially like his treatment of sexuality. Deep13 Dec 2011 #7
I love Foucault's dissections of power n/t RainDog Dec 2011 #3
I see OWS as more Deleuzo-Guattarian than Foucauldian nt tishaLA Dec 2011 #4
Care to eloborate or are you just trying to one-up me? nt Deep13 Dec 2011 #6
I don't try to one-up people on here tishaLA Dec 2011 #10
Thanks. Deep13 Dec 2011 #14
wonderfully said. Burgman Dec 2011 #8
Thanks. nt Deep13 Dec 2011 #19
WOOT! Most Excellent Post. A masterpiece. Congratulations! Zorra Dec 2011 #11
That's an excellent articulation too -- Remember Me Dec 2011 #16
+1 Deep13 Dec 2011 #17
Sharing it Zorra Dec 2011 #28
Thank you for that. nt Deep13 Dec 2011 #18
splendid article! Thanks ! n/t Betty Karlson Dec 2011 #12
Thanks for reading. nt Deep13 Dec 2011 #20
_^_ Zorra Dec 2011 #13
Glad to K & R Aerows Dec 2011 #15
Thanks. nt Deep13 Dec 2011 #21
Very good read. Kaleko Dec 2011 #22
Thanks for your remarks.... Deep13 Dec 2011 #23
Food for thought? hootinholler Dec 2011 #24
Thanks. Deep13 Dec 2011 #25
Seriously, thank you. n/t hootinholler Dec 2011 #27
really wonderful ideas -- thank you for the brain food!! nashville_brook Dec 2011 #26
Thanks for the comments. nt Deep13 Dec 2011 #29
shameless, self-serving kick. Deep13 Dec 2011 #30
Well said. k&r n/t Laelth Dec 2011 #31
thanks nt Deep13 Dec 2011 #32
Hey, there's people on a gun forum debating my blurb. Deep13 Dec 2011 #33
LOL! It seems very clear to me that you were promoting Occupy. Zorra Dec 2011 #34
Thanks, and you explain it very well. nt Deep13 Dec 2011 #35
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