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91. I think this is a miscue of logic on your part.

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 11:12 AM

Nov 2013

He hopes that women do not have abortions, because if his mother had one in his case, he would not have been born and available for adoption.

So, no. I don't see the irony.

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Don't Want To Be Insensitive To A Fellow Duer's Personal Story... But... [View all] WillyT Nov 2013 OP

I don't think you made yourself clear here. Th1onein Nov 2013 #1

Trying To Avoid Being Accused Of A "Call-Out"... WillyT Nov 2013 #2

Thanks, WillyT. Th1onein Nov 2013 #11

good, then don't have one. Whisp Nov 2013 #22

How did you escape my Ignore List? Th1onein Nov 2013 #25

Wow why so angry? boston bean Nov 2013 #27

The "just mind your own business" probably did it. JimDandy Nov 2013 #80

This being a Democratic Underground, and Democratic Party supports Right to Chose, abortion included idwiyo Nov 2013 #92

Make sure you add me ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #68

You had to get it out just one more time. boston bean Nov 2013 #23

Ya know, Boston Bean, people come to DU to learn, to grow, and they change their views, sometimes, Th1onein Nov 2013 #24

I believe I can conclude your position on abortion is not liberal or boston bean Nov 2013 #26

I believe you are wrong. Th1onein Nov 2013 #31

I stated your position on abortion was not liberal. Are you arguing that your position should be boston bean Nov 2013 #32

So what? Th1onein Nov 2013 #40

Sorry it's just none of your business. You think it's taking a life, boston bean Nov 2013 #42

You apparently didn't read what I wrote. Th1onein Nov 2013 #46

I'm not going to give any pro life argument credence. boston bean Nov 2013 #49

I read what you wrote "Now, I'm going to shut up, and let whoever wants to shout, shout. " uppityperson Nov 2013 #55

I wish the shouting matches on here could be framed with the politics of the situation in mind wercal Nov 2013 #107

"framing it as a women's rights issue"???? PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #77

You are utterly incorrect about stating when pro-choice people think 'life begins.' msanthrope Nov 2013 #85

You're playing a fucking stupid semantic game. HERVEPA Nov 2013 #153

I don't think your anti-choice stance is progressive at all. tammywammy Nov 2013 #34

This anti-choice person has been allowed to remain on DU for years. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #104

+100000 nt riderinthestorm Nov 2013 #141

Antil-abortion = anti-progressive. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #41

You can be against abortion and be progressive. Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #128

No you can't. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #140

I disagree. Pab Sungenis Nov 2013 #142

It would help your case cliffordu Nov 2013 #52

More inflammatory rhetoric. Th1onein Nov 2013 #58

Still: What anyone else does with their cliffordu Nov 2013 #62

I guess if you say it enough times, you might believe it. Th1onein Nov 2013 #64

Ah, we hardly knew ya cliffordu Nov 2013 #65

How many children do you have? HangOnKids Nov 2013 #70

I was (and still am) a single mother. I have two children. Th1onein Nov 2013 #148

If you think what Caretha Nov 2013 #129

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^ cliffordu Nov 2013 #155

:applause: Change has come Nov 2013 #63

+ 100 peace13 Nov 2013 #152

since you vote Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #82

Calling abortion "murder" is respectful? Holy shit. idwiyo Nov 2013 #87

I haventnseen that thread and if it wasn't aimed at an idividual Niceguy1 Nov 2013 #88

It aimed at everyone who chose abortion. Calling me a murderer is respectful? idwiyo Nov 2013 #89

You really need to read my posts, idwiyo. Th1onein Nov 2013 #111

Didn't you do it once already? Regardless, I'll display it as a badge of honour! idwiyo Nov 2013 #112

Thank you, Niceguy1. Your behavior lives up to your handle. Th1onein Nov 2013 #110

For what it's worth my mom is also pro-life davidpdx Nov 2013 #84

A woman can be against abortion for herself, but pro-choice. CTyankee Nov 2013 #133

As I said she is against abortion completely davidpdx Nov 2013 #143

I am stunned I'm reading this on DU. Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2013 #145

I get what he is saying Mojorabbit Nov 2013 #67

Anyone who dares to have a different opinion on DU lately is treated badly. When it suits them sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #69

"I support right to chose" doesn't equal "I wish everyone carried to term and gave it for adoption, idwiyo Nov 2013 #90

Ironic? Not at all... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #3

Good Points All... But You're Not Suggesting Women Don't Have Abortions Because Of You... WillyT Nov 2013 #6

Not at all... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #12

Agreed... I appreciate Your Response... WillyT Nov 2013 #15

True, though I think the thought process is worth exploring Bradical79 Nov 2013 #102

I think I addressed this in this post linked below... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #109

It's flawed thinking. Bradical79 Nov 2013 #100

The thinking is no more "flawed" than any other conclusion modified by personal experience... Demo_Chris Nov 2013 #108

You're right, it's very flawed thinking for the very reasons you state so well. mountain grammy Nov 2013 #147

Oh you know libodem Nov 2013 #4

Fan of hyperbole? HangOnKids Nov 2013 #72

What do you think "adoption instead of abortion" is? (nt) jeff47 Nov 2013 #97

That does not describe the mothers I know who gave their children up for adoption. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #118

It does describe 3 women's experiences that have been friends of mine. Yes, there are open uppityperson Nov 2013 #120

Those situations were likely years ago, Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #122

Obviously one was years ago since the mom drank/died of hypothermia 15 yrs later. It all depends on uppityperson Nov 2013 #123

hmmm.... newcriminal Nov 2013 #124

And? You remember me saying "for some" and "sometimes"? So? uppityperson Nov 2013 #125

Whatever helps you sleep at night. newcriminal Nov 2013 #126

I sleep well, thank you very much. Some women have an easy time, some more difficult uppityperson Nov 2013 #127

no newcriminal Nov 2013 #130

Yes. I did. I always do. I am the one who says "for some" not "all" or "every". Maybe you have me uppityperson Nov 2013 #131

Here is what I wrote. I highlighted "for some" since you seem to have missed it. uppityperson Nov 2013 #132

I was talking about the post above. newcriminal Nov 2013 #134

This is my 78,004th post and most of them do not say "for some". I ONLY said "sometimes" in that uppityperson Nov 2013 #136

I was responding solely to the insistence Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #137

Yup, I agree with all of that. Sorry for being, well, upppity at you. uppityperson Nov 2013 #138

You're just living up to your name. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #139

Have maternal instincts changed over the years? Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2013 #144

The question is whether, in the context of the current debate, Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #146

Bottom line; Boudica the Lyoness Nov 2013 #150

Both, though, are a major source of grief - Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #157

The ripping does not have to be physical. jeff47 Nov 2013 #154

When the mother's choice is made for her, I agree. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #156

I think you are reading too much into it. Curmudgeoness Nov 2013 #5

You're Most Likely Correct... WillyT Nov 2013 #8

If I were pushing an agenda, Curmudgeoness Nov 2013 #14

I am not part of an organized agenda, but if i were part of an organize agenda el_bryanto Nov 2013 #28

True, less abortions could be a good thing Bradical79 Nov 2013 #106

You hit the nail on the head. Curmudgeoness Nov 2013 #121

You find it weird that someone who would not exist had his mother chosen abortion over adoption Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #7

Seriously... I'd Love For Somebody To Walk Me Through That Maze... WillyT Nov 2013 #13

ALL of us would not exist if our mothers had chosen abortion. Mariana Nov 2013 #60

My guess is that someone who was adopted feels that they had a "closer call". (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #66

i can relate to the "close call" aspect. if not for a miscarriage, i'd never have been born. dionysus Nov 2013 #94

Maybe. I was almost miscarried. But I was wanted and my mom made the effort to keep me. haele Nov 2013 #96

I saw that and chalked it up to ambivalence Warpy Nov 2013 #9

Perhaps I am dense, quite possible nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #10

I didn't see any shaming in the original post myself. aptal Nov 2013 #16

Guess y'all missed the subject of the OP boston bean Nov 2013 #19

Opening sentence: "I think the decision should 100% be up to the woman involved" IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #33

No they are not Ida. A pro choice stance is boston bean Nov 2013 #35

Pro-choice is that the woman decides. IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #45

You are speaking for yourself. That is choice. boston bean Nov 2013 #48

You seem to be confused about the difference between OPINION and PRO CHOICE. IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #51

I'm clear that stating persons should not have an abortion is no way boston bean Nov 2013 #54

We disagree. He votes pro choice. He is entitled to an opinion. IdaBriggs Nov 2013 #59

His opinion is antithesis to pro choice and I find it objectionable. boston bean Nov 2013 #61

I disagree with yr opinion, BB... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #81

I disagree violet. boston bean Nov 2013 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Nov 2013 #75

Great Examples Captain Stern Nov 2013 #98

He said he felt "people (and by that he would arthritisR_US Nov 2013 #17

Don't Want To Be Insensitive, but that is what your doing isn't it? newcriminal Nov 2013 #18

If that's the case then so too was the poster of arthritisR_US Nov 2013 #53

That is NOT what the OP is doing HangOnKids Nov 2013 #73

Yes, it WAS what the OP was doing... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #76

I would like a world where people are not emotionally blackmailed... uriel1972 Nov 2013 #20

I am not following you. el_bryanto Nov 2013 #21

No E_B... I Take You As Earnest... It's Just That... WillyT Nov 2013 #29

People have a right to privacy - and I would never push my views on any individual woman el_bryanto Nov 2013 #30

Cool... WillyT Nov 2013 #38

So were you actually confused about my position or not? el_bryanto Nov 2013 #39

Nevermind... I Tried To Have A Real Dialogue... So I'll Just Leave You With This: WillyT Nov 2013 #47

You tried to have a real dialogue by calling me out el_bryanto Nov 2013 #50

Ah yes the I am confused by the confusion I made post HangOnKids Nov 2013 #74

This is a call-out, even though apparently allowed to stand. You could address the issue... Hekate Nov 2013 #36

Thank you, Hekate. It is a call out and a really needless, really NASTY one as well Number23 Nov 2013 #37

I alerted. newcriminal Nov 2013 #43

Well, that makes 3 of us, and it was 6-0 to let it stand. Hekate Nov 2013 #44

Alerts only "go through" once. jeff47 Nov 2013 #99

many seem like they DO want that hfojvt Nov 2013 #56

Sanctimony and purity tests are, alas, not limited to the GOP Hekate Nov 2013 #57

Callouts aren't against the rules CreekDog Nov 2013 #83

Yes, it is. Even though I like the OP...this is wrong. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #103

I've got no problem with their stance, but I do have a problem with yrs... Violet_Crumble Nov 2013 #71

+1 Go Vols Nov 2013 #113

I usually stay out of abortion threads ohheckyeah Nov 2013 #78

I think a woman should have the right to choose. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #79

Thank you for your support. idwiyo Nov 2013 #93

I think this is a miscue of logic on your part. Baitball Blogger Nov 2013 #91

The idea is the perception of an adoptee that they were more likely to be aborted Prism Nov 2013 #95

Nothing to do with purity tests. Everything to do with shaming and guilt-tripping. idwiyo Nov 2013 #114

"Shaming" is a meaningless millennial term Prism Nov 2013 #115

I don't give a fig what one thinks. I do care when they express their anti-choice thoughts idwiyo Nov 2013 #116

Here's an analogy I'll leave you with Prism Nov 2013 #117

Unfortunately for me, my so-called allies do not accept that my body belongs to me idwiyo Nov 2013 #119

We are allied against those people. Prism Nov 2013 #135

As I said already it's not my business what someone thinks. idwiyo Nov 2013 #149

A woman wins here by being able to make her own decision. NCTraveler Nov 2013 #101

Not really. Someone who knows they were adopted treestar Nov 2013 #105

I got slammed with that adoption scam yesterday! peace13 Nov 2013 #151