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what is the point of your post? Most all here acknowledge white privilege and male privilege Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #1
You missed the point. You don't have to be a bad guy to be a part of the problem. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #2
yes. that is part of institutional racism. people who stand by and let privilege rule. however, Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #7
The OP is talking about much more subtle effects of privilege. jeff47 Nov 2013 #14
And that makes you a bad guy per the OP upaloopa Nov 2013 #31
No, it doesn't. jeff47 Nov 2013 #53
^THIS NuclearDem Nov 2013 #61
I must have said this a hundred times here at DU upaloopa Nov 2013 #124
No, it doesn't. Please reread my OP before commenting further. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #58
Now there is real collective guilt! upaloopa Nov 2013 #29
Those are your words, not mine. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #34
That's just what you said. upaloopa Nov 2013 #36
Yeah, that's not what I said. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #38
Thats the opposite of what the op said. Bradical79 Nov 2013 #101
no, they don't. i have seen a gazillion post denying any privilege of any group La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #3
+1000 ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #5
+2 YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #21
Another +1 gollygee Nov 2013 #41
maybe because privilege is used in an odd way here hfojvt Nov 2013 #76
the word privilege in the context of social science literature La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #86
it is the fault of social scientists hfojvt Nov 2013 #114
no, it's not. people borrow things from academia without context/definitions all the time La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2013 #116
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2013 #90
You are correct.. whathehell Nov 2013 #106
OP makes the point 'good guy/bad guy' is irrelevant leftstreet Nov 2013 #4
A sizable minority does not BainsBane Nov 2013 #19
More of that persecution complex nonsense. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #44
All true, btw. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #52
Well PW … 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #49
Privilege is invisible until it is threatened, you mean Warpy Nov 2013 #6
Yes healthy debate! Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #8
first: Dis-privilege among minorities manifests itself as follows; lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #9
And you truly believe this? ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #10
It's not a matter of belief. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #11
Are you saying that … 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #50
I'm saying that for every example, there's an (at least) equally compelling counterexample. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #60
False. Reality clearly favors cisgendered white, straight men. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #68
In my daily life, I work with the disabled in a impoverished community. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #87
No, it exists. You just don't want to admit it exists. Or you can't see it. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #88
I don't want to "admit" that leprechauns exist. I can't see them either. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #89
Yes, and the abundance of feminist and queer analyses and theory is wrong. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #95
Now we're talking about hetero privilege? lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #97
People have listed many examples for you. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #99
Yeah....that's not how it manifests itself. jeff47 Nov 2013 #16
Then defend your viewpoint. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #17
Yes … 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #51
I am not, in any form, denying that WP exists. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #63
"White" "privilege" offers no real "benefits" for the whole either. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #71
When you look at the average outcomes for blacks vs whites lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #82
I see what you're saying, Jeff, although it doesn't disprove my point, either. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #120
Your list is about 100 pages too short jeff47 Nov 2013 #56
Lots of assertions and denial... YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #23
two things. lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #28
"First society doesn't consciously send black people to jail because they are black" ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #62
As pervasive as white privilege is... lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #65
Jeff ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #69
And I think you're not keeping up with current events. n/t lumberjack_jeff Nov 2013 #83
okay I'll give it a shot off the top of my head -- help anyone? Chiquitita Nov 2013 #42
How bout jeff47 Nov 2013 #55
those are very strange privileges hfojvt Nov 2013 #77
hfojvt Chiquitita Nov 2013 #81
it is sad that you have to post this noiretextatique Nov 2013 #12
White male privilege is a simply horrible thing. Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #13
SCHEDULING NYE BEVAN FOR ASS KICKING Skittles Nov 2013 #15
I couldn't have written this better myself MrScorpio Nov 2013 #18
Excellent post, but I would add heterosexual privilege to that list. BainsBane Nov 2013 #20
Great post. Unfortunately, some get so defensive that they feel they are being personally attacked.. YoungDemCA Nov 2013 #22
That is their intention. N/t BainsBane Nov 2013 #25
Exactly. The responses to the thread in this forum trying to examine why so many whites vote Repub Number23 Nov 2013 #26
Good fucking point! Thank you! boston bean Nov 2013 #57
Yes ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #64
There are a few who do get too defensive, yeah. That IS true. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #73
Not just male. I've walked away from so many feminist conversations because I am so sick and fucking Number23 Nov 2013 #24
This is so full of it ! upaloopa Nov 2013 #27
lol Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #33
The privileged need this insight the most. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #39
No. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #59
+1 Puzzledtraveller Nov 2013 #85
Most people are NOT aware, that's false on it's face uponit7771 Nov 2013 #91
IMO, dotymed Nov 2013 #30
Marxism gets a lot of things right. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #40
tell that to the kid who got arrested for buying a $300 belt. ejpoeta Nov 2013 #78
Two questions LittleBlue Nov 2013 #32
Not being discriminated against is a form of privilege. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #35
As far as what the privileged should do... Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #37
Pretty much what I was saying. Good points here! nt AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #47
"Vote Democratic?"... yes, all the time... every time.. until they get really stupid too uponit7771 Nov 2013 #93
Thanks Gravity Chiquitita Nov 2013 #43
I don't feel privileged at all. Skip Intro Nov 2013 #45
But privilege isn't about an individual's circumstances cyberswede Nov 2013 #66
True, but that's more of a case of the WOC being UNDERprivileged..... AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #72
Privilege is not someone showing up at your house and handing you a million dollars. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #67
Wait a minute leftstreet Nov 2013 #70
Sorry, I used caste incorrectly in this context. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #75
Oprah Winfrey leftstreet Nov 2013 #84
TBH, it's not so much that we're privileged.... AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #74
GC, while I realize full well that I, as a "white" "cis" guy that I am certainly more fortunate..... AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #46
You Forget a form of Male Privilege that No Longer Exists. Wolf Frankula Nov 2013 #48
That happens mostly because of the male hero complex. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #54
that's because women are the weaker sex! oh us women... we may become hysterical!! ejpoeta Nov 2013 #79
A self granted "privilege" Bradical79 Nov 2013 #105
I'm nor saying it was 'self granted' Wolf Frankula Nov 2013 #123
The bold portion: Rings like the "invisible hand of the market place." Eleanors38 Nov 2013 #80
K&R polichick Nov 2013 #92
"Not being consistently viewed as a sexual object is something men benefit from every single day of Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #94
That is a myth. The sexual objectification of women is ever-present. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #96
I'm not sure if you're being serious or sarcastic. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #98
Two things: First, 18-22 year old Facebook pages are not even remotely close... Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #100
I didn't claim they were a good cross-section of society. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #102
If your claim is your school is a egalitarian sexist utopia, you're wrong. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #103
Right. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #104
Which school is it? Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #107
I don't feel comfortable giving away information like that on a public discussion forum. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #108
If you're too afraid to give a specific example, don't talk about how said example is so important. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #109
What's so hard about understanding that I don't want to be stalked online? Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #111
That's the risk you take when you use your personal life as specific counter examples. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #115
Gravitycollapse probably knows better than you do Bradical79 Nov 2013 #118
Your school's facebook page is hardly relevant Bradical79 Nov 2013 #110
Did I say it was? Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #113
Yes, actually you did. You are using that one example to counter everything else. Gravitycollapse Nov 2013 #117
Yes, you did. In plain English. Bradical79 Nov 2013 #119
At my college. Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #121
Your response was to someone talking about society at large Bradical79 Nov 2013 #122
I'm one of the most privileged people in the world. dawg Nov 2013 #112
sigh... yes. just this. seabeyond Nov 2013 #125
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