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In reply to the discussion: Federal Wildlife Agents Shoot 14 Wolves from Helicopters [View all]ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)47. All you have now are ad hominems...
From Post # 32
"Your fixation of citations is almost amusing"
From Post # 44...your reply title reads
"Citations are not always required, despite your fetish for them"
From Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Origin of FETISH
French & Portuguese; French: "fetiche", from Portuguese "fetigo".
from "fetigo" artificial, false.
from Latin "facticius facticious
You could have stuck with the word "fixation", or used the words "obsession" or "preoccupation", instead of "fetish", but I guess that was just a not so subtle "jab" at me, right?...no big deal!
"Your fixation of citations is almost amusing"
From Post # 44...your reply title reads
"Citations are not always required, despite your fetish for them"
From Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Origin of FETISH
French & Portuguese; French: "fetiche", from Portuguese "fetigo".
from "fetigo" artificial, false.
from Latin "facticius facticious
You could have stuck with the word "fixation", or used the words "obsession" or "preoccupation", instead of "fetish", but I guess that was just a not so subtle "jab" at me, right?...no big deal!
I suggest you look at other definitions of fetish...
Fet·ish ?[fet-ish, fee-tish]
noun
1. an object regarded with awe as being the embodiment or habitation of a potent spirit or as having magical potency.
2. any object, idea, etc., eliciting unquestioning reverence, respect, or devotion: to make a fetish of high grades.
3. Psychology . any object or nongenital part of the body that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fetish
In Posts # 27 and # 42, I quoted a verifiable source regarding the overpopulation
of white-tail deer in the eastern United States.
of white-tail deer in the eastern United States.
Except the area under discussion was the Western states
I NEVER "made false statements about deer populations",
The point I clearly made, (which you don't seem to get into your thick head), is that it is, indeed, in the EASTERN United States where there are serious problems with deer overpopulation, and it is in the eastern U.S. where introducing predators such as wolves might ameliorate the problem.
The point I clearly made, (which you don't seem to get into your thick head), is that it is, indeed, in the EASTERN United States where there are serious problems with deer overpopulation, and it is in the eastern U.S. where introducing predators such as wolves might ameliorate the problem.
The event being discussed was in the Idaho. Citing analysis about the east cost is at best inapplicable and silly though given the shrill tone of your posts, I am now tending towards disingenuous.
The Lolo wolves that were shot from helicopters in Idaho could have instead been humanely trapped and relocated to areas of the EASTERN United States where deer overpopulation is a serious problem, (even if the cost of doing so would be a bit more than $1670 per wolf).
Suggesting something that could not have been done is poor rhetoric at best. There is no relocation program in place and there seems to be no popular support for starting one. If you think the ranchers and hunters are whining in Idaho, wait to see what happens when you go to release wolves in NY or NJ.
I think the cited cost of $1670/wolf was lowballed, and I previously stated why. However if you are going to claim that trapping them "would be a bit more than $1670 per wolf", I would like to see your cost analysis. Not asking for a citation, but something to support your assertion. You could look at the documents that were used to support the helo shootings as a place to start. There should have been some sort of cost analysis there.
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When it comes to wildlife and wilderness, in particular, this administration is as abysmal
villager
Mar 2012
#23
Yup. This, to me, is one of his biggest failings..and yet it gets surprisingly little play...
truebrit71
Mar 2012
#38
Neither the prey nor the predators restrict themselves to NPS boundaries
ProgressiveProfessor
Mar 2012
#14
Elk is much better eating that deer...that does not sound like trophy hunting to me
ProgressiveProfessor
Mar 2012
#25
"Elk is much better eating than deer", so you're not arguing for "subsistence hunting" anymore?
red dog 1
Mar 2012
#27
Your cited source is less than accurate...just ask any deer hunter in California.
ProgressiveProfessor
Mar 2012
#28
"Your cited source is less than accurate...just ask any deer hunter in California"??
red dog 1
Mar 2012
#29
"You then made false statements about deer populations"........"I rebutted them"?
red dog 1
Mar 2012
#39
One of our Oregon wolves from NE Oregon was tracked from there into California and is now
DeschutesRiver
Mar 2012
#43
This is a "No Brainer" for Obama. It keeps the hunters happy, and saves wolves lives as well/
red dog 1
Mar 2012
#31
Actually humans control other predators so there will be more prey for humans to consume
ProgressiveProfessor
Mar 2012
#49
My point was it is not about the shooting, its about the consumption
ProgressiveProfessor
Mar 2012
#51