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Mon Dec 19, 2011, 12:38 AM

1. Most excellent


In fact, this is among the top 3 or 4 essays and analyses of Occupy that I consider the best of the best. And in that company you'd find Chris Hedges and Michael Moore.

Parts I particularly loved:

A person internalizes and naturalizes the values of her or his society and constantly checks her thinking and actions against that standard.

Yes, this is the effect of a patriarchal society on women who've not had their consciousness raised (as the old sayng and reality goes): they take up the patriarchal mantal agaisnt their sisters. Phyllis Schlaffly and all those other rightwing women are perfect examples. Another term for it is "internalized oppression."

Instead of fixing or overthrowing the current system, OWS seeks an organic replacement. At some point, the movement will simply be the nation....

This can't be emphasized -- and repeated -- nearly often enough. People want an agenda? Hardly possible, other than "Change everything, from the bottom up." Another way to look at that reality:

It is absurd for us to decry the immorality of laws that allow banks to commit highway robbery while still fretting over camping regulations.


Again, the idea is not simply to replace leaders or to enact specific reforms. OWS seeks to replace the entire political, social, and economic culture with a wider sense of human community. It already conducts itself in that manner. Rather than leaders with the prerogative to make decisions for the group, OWS operates on consensus.

and (actually a continuation of the previous paragraph, but so important I want to further emphasize it:

It is clear from the past ten or twelve years that there is no political, institutional solution for what ails us. Fortunately, we do not need one.

Get it (I know you do, Deep13)? There is NO WAY TO GET THERE FROM HERE, except via something like Occupy, something from completely outside the system, something from a new paradigm which in turn is capable of creating new paradigms.

And whew! If you take a look at what the incredible numbers are in the bankster scandals, not all that well publicized, it becomes all the more apparent -- and necessary. For example, see: The Wall Street Pentagon Papers: Biggest Scam In World History Exposed – Are The Federal Reserve’s Crimes Too Big To Comprehend?

Great essay. Thanks for sharing it.

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