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Ken Burch

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36. Well, everyone who ever proposed any sort of genuine, transformational change

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #22)

Fri Nov 1, 2013, 06:33 PM

Nov 2013

had to be confident that what hadn't been done before might be doable in the future.

"progressives" who don't believe that should just become conservatives and be done with it.

You defeat yourself when you assume that the future can only be a repeat of the past.

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We'd be better off if Obama WAS a Marxist. [View all] Ken Burch Oct 2013 OP

there is still the republican controlled house he would have to deal with JI7 Oct 2013 #1

I included an assumption, in the OP, that he had a Congress he could work with. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #2

if I were President.. stillcool Oct 2013 #3

Would there be borscht? 1000words Oct 2013 #4

Cute. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #8

Sorry, my post was intended to be good-natured 1000words Oct 2013 #15

Not meaning to be harsh in response...misread your intent. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #27

Pass ... But "White Russian" gives me a cracking idea! 1000words Oct 2013 #28

Why a "full-employment economy?" That's crazy. immoderate Oct 2013 #5

because of the damage unemployment does to people. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #6

Unemployment doesn't damage people. Being broke does. immoderate Oct 2013 #11

drudging, disrespected, meaningless work is destructive. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #13

We agree on main point. But citing "Marxist-Leninism" is a straw man. immoderate Oct 2013 #18

That was what I was trying to say. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #20

Question is: Who would Stalin NOT have had shot? immoderate Oct 2013 #21

uh...himself?... Ken Burch Oct 2013 #24

With a planned economy, if we could cover everybody's needs on......... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #16

I'm with you. I have heard estimates that society's needs could be met with a 10 hour week. immoderate Oct 2013 #19

Also, a shorter work week would mean full employment. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #33

and unicorns. don't forget the unicorns Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #7

Ok...here ya go... Ken Burch Nov 2013 #38

Yes, yes we would Taverner Oct 2013 #9

Well, yeah, I was aware of that. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #10

IT sucks when we lose. But when we lose when we win? Sucks worse. Taverner Oct 2013 #12

I agree gopiscrap Oct 2013 #14

Remember Trotsky? The CLASSIC Marxist...... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #17

I also think of people like James Connolly and Rosa Luxemburg-and John MacLean in Scotland Ken Burch Oct 2013 #26

You seem very confident... brooklynite Oct 2013 #22

Well, everyone who ever proposed any sort of genuine, transformational change Ken Burch Nov 2013 #36

Personally, I think that IF the USA actually became...... socialist_n_TN Nov 2013 #37

Psst! Nobody tell the teabaggers what true Marxism is! Initech Oct 2013 #23

...and be careful about telling them what "teabagging" is, too. n/t. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #25

K&R Rex Oct 2013 #29

...many of whom are making their appearances in this very thread, I see. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #32

wow my ignore list is working overtime! bobduca Oct 2013 #34

Then Glenn Beck would finally have something to shit about. Rex Oct 2013 #35

If Obama were a true Marxist, Jamaal510 Oct 2013 #30

As I said, the OP called on people to put "electability" out of their minds here. Ken Burch Oct 2013 #31