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Can someone ring up the Germans, and [View all] MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 OP
Well... It Appears That Spain Is In The On-Deck Circle For Tomorrow... Check It Out !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #1
Snowden is totally punking these countries MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #4
"many heads would have rolled by now."...or would they? AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #85
Wow! They have a huge govt. cui bono Oct 2013 #20
It's the scale of the NSA's alleged surveillance that's worrying Ghost Dog Oct 2013 #48
I wonder how many people realize "data" about calls is not the content of the calls themselves. I okaawhatever Oct 2013 #94
STOP IT MANNY Skittles Oct 2013 #2
It's NSA Manny! R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #9
Any foreign leader Mr.Bill Oct 2013 #3
Huh? You think they *really* tapped her phone? MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #5
That was too easy for you. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #11
Well, he had a good point no? MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #13
I would like to know which American official forked over scores of phone numbers, R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #17
Good question. Who gave the NSA those private numbers? riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #53
Who's a political toddler? Mr.Bill Oct 2013 #18
Whomever they are I'm sure the NSA won't be on it immediately. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #19
I have no idea if they really tapped her phone. Mr.Bill Oct 2013 #12
Um, don't we agree that if the US got sensitive information MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #15
I'm not exactly sure how I feel about that. Mr.Bill Oct 2013 #16
Every country builds acre sized data centers to store every phone calll made by us just like the NSA Dragonfli Oct 2013 #38
... woo me with science Oct 2013 #39
Yes! DeSwiss Oct 2013 #43
It's ONLY MEH-TAH DAY-TA !!!! GoneFishin Oct 2013 #50
It absolutely 100% is her fault for using an unencrypted line. joshcryer Oct 2013 #36
The NSA can decrypt. riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #54
You see her skirt was very short and she was walking alone at night... AngryAmish Oct 2013 #55
She WAS just asking for it, practically BEGGING to be tapped. Dragonfli Oct 2013 #62
It was 100% irresponsible to use an unsecure line and expect security. joshcryer Oct 2013 #67
So it was her fault we spied on her? Is there a law that says we MUST spy on an ally Dragonfli Oct 2013 #69
No. She used an unsecured line and should not expect security. joshcryer Oct 2013 #70
No, I understand perfectly, you just think a certain way which I find deplorable Dragonfli Oct 2013 #74
Vile, nasty characterization. joshcryer Oct 2013 #77
Your justification and lack of moral clarity that drives you to blame the victim Dragonfli Oct 2013 #80
I am not defending spying. joshcryer Oct 2013 #84
Not trying to score points, just think "our" actions are morally corrupt Dragonfli Oct 2013 #87
Of course they are. joshcryer Oct 2013 #89
She's had a secure cell phone since Obama became a president riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #97
Ouch. MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #99
Once secured the taps failed. joshcryer Oct 2013 #101
Link to a source that the taps failed. nt riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #109
Link a source that says they succeeded. joshcryer Oct 2013 #110
There's a ton of sites demonstrating the NSA can break encrypted phones riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #114
and if you're naive enough to believe the germans, our allies, aren't spying on us,as well as mossad dionysus Oct 2013 #82
It's ironic because Merkel colluded with the NSA. joshcryer Oct 2013 #88
I didn't call you a rapist, but victim blaming, in a context you might understand Dragonfli Oct 2013 #90
Oh yeah, you've been so cordial and nice. joshcryer Oct 2013 #104
the naivete knows no bounds, apparently. dionysus Oct 2013 #92
I take it you have proof the Germans tapped Obama's phone as well? Assumptions appear Dragonfli Oct 2013 #93
Where are y getting that she was using an unsecure phone? riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #73
It didn't get encypted until 2009. joshcryer Oct 2013 #76
So her cell is encrypted and the NSA goes to the effort to decrypt it?! riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #81
It started in 2002. joshcryer Oct 2013 #86
For as long as Obama has been President, Merkel's phone has been encrypted riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #91
And they didn't succeed under Obama. joshcryer Oct 2013 #102
That's why Obama said there's no tapping now or going forward... riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #105
I doubt he had all the details. joshcryer Oct 2013 #107
Whether successful or not, they tried nonetheless, now why would they try to tap Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #106
You expect better of intelligence agencies? joshcryer Oct 2013 #108
Then you agree the NSA has overstepped its' bounds and needs to be reigned in or curtailed? n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #111
Absolutely, 100%. joshcryer Oct 2013 #112
Does the NSA have a legitimate reason for being or should we scrap it all together? n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #113
scrap it and the cia joshcryer Oct 2013 #115
How would you handle the issue of U.S. enemies overseas, are the terrorists for real? n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #116
That's where transparency comes in. joshcryer Oct 2013 #117
This is BS victim blaming crap. joshcryer Oct 2013 #66
So you're saying Obama knows all about everything that's being done by the NSA? n/t Fumesucker Oct 2013 #68
Nope. joshcryer Oct 2013 #71
You said heads of state spy on other states Fumesucker Oct 2013 #75
Forget about the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor Fume, he's "on a roll" and doesn't need to make sense Dragonfli Oct 2013 #78
"All about everything" is a lot to know. joshcryer Oct 2013 #79
... Fumesucker Oct 2013 #83
stupid comparison, rape is wrong in every case, but spying is not , is it wrong to spy on China ? JI7 Oct 2013 #98
Ok, on my way right freaking now Hutzpa Oct 2013 #6
... Scootaloo Oct 2013 #44
I heard Obama told Frau Merkel straight up pscot Oct 2013 #7
What, does she think "now" denotes an *instant* of time? MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Oct 2013 #8
The Chancelor knows the truth, Manny. R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #14
So because she was "Eastern Bloc", she knows who spies and who doesn't? Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #23
Yes, she does, in fact know. joshcryer Oct 2013 #35
Merkel is being awfully ungrateful Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #21
Come to think of it, at that moment we MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #22
Manny...do you realize your phone is tapped and there's a camera on you? Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #24
My apologies! MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #25
"Those ARE my pants!" Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #26
I can see you too! Cali_Democrat Oct 2013 #29
Shhhhh Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #31
I wouldn't blow that for all the money in Mitt Romney's couch. Scootaloo Oct 2013 #45
Gee, whiz. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #47
Sorry Merkel that's the price u pay for 9/11 Hijackers mtg & lvg Germany undetected SoCalCisco Oct 2013 #30
Do we as American citizens get the same award, and for what perceived wrongs do we R. Daneel Olivaw Oct 2013 #32
Americans lost their Constitutuonal Rights long before Snowden told us we had with SoCalCisco Oct 2013 #37
Thank Gawd we finally voted for an administration that would damn well keep it that way! Dragonfli Oct 2013 #40
Welcome to our post 9/11 world. Better than post 9/11 "GOP" world SoCalCisco Oct 2013 #60
With all due respect, spying on all Americans does not make us safe, the one chance to prove they Dragonfli Oct 2013 #61
"DONT MENTION THE WAR!" Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #27
This isn't coming from Snowden, though. Spider Jerusalem Oct 2013 #28
You mean. like...Snowden has no message?!? Zorra Oct 2013 #51
And a Ted Cruz leftist Doctor_J Oct 2013 #64
Ted Cruz is the worst sort of leftist, FUCKING COMMIE that one! Dragonfli Oct 2013 #95
The Germans are more annoyed by Merkel's double standard. joshcryer Oct 2013 #33
Your money will be waiting at Drop Zone Zebra. NBachers Oct 2013 #34
Yep, it's no biggie really jsr Oct 2013 #41
Once again... DirtyDawg Oct 2013 #42
I think you are right, The Germans are lying about what is pissing them off Dragonfli Oct 2013 #49
The TPM article says, essentially, that it was metadata. At least for Spain. randome Oct 2013 #56
K&R DeSwiss Oct 2013 #46
Can someone ring up George Bush and ask him why Merkel was under surveillance? Bolo Boffin Oct 2013 #52
Can someone ring up Barack Obama and let him know he's been POTUS for five years? Fumesucker Oct 2013 #96
Can someone ring up Fumesucker and let him know Bolo Boffin Oct 2013 #100
It's so embarassing being European just now. sibelian Oct 2013 #57
Latest Snowden memes are that he's a naive, stupid patsy riderinthestorm Oct 2013 #58
The colossal IMPORTANCE of his unimportance has never been lost on me. sibelian Oct 2013 #59
"Gentlemen don't read each other's mail..." LanternWaste Oct 2013 #63
I tried to call and they told me she was busy talking to Putin JVS Oct 2013 #65
Haha, good one, Manny! City Lights Oct 2013 #72
Did someone say the Germans? BainsBane Oct 2013 #103
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