Yeah. I see it impossible unless Watergate blows up in '72 and even then... (Reply #37)

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37. Yeah. I see it impossible unless Watergate blows up in '72 and even then...

I know liberals don't want to hear this, but McGovern was probably the weakest major party candidate in modern American history. Great guy - hero, really, but he just was never going to be president.

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1972 McGovern campaign, what would you have done ? [View all]	steve2470	Oct 2013	OP
I voted for McGovern, and would again. However, if Bobby wasn't killed, he would have been the	lostincalifornia	Oct 2013	#1
I guess that's the classic conundrum, how to overcome media bias	steve2470	Oct 2013	#4
If Bobby hadn't been killed he would have been running for his 2nd term in '72	dflprincess	Oct 2013	#24
You are correct	lostincalifornia	Oct 2013	#26
No, a myth.	former9thward	Oct 2013	#47
I absolutely agree.	murielm99	Oct 2013	#52
Humphrey would have been the nominee regardless in 1968	book_worm	Oct 2013	#78
That's a lot of alternative reality being posited there.	WinkyDink	Oct 2013	#82
Yep. RFK in '68 and '72	MinM	Oct 2013	#90
You do realize these were different election years, 1968 vs. 1972?	WinkyDink	Oct 2013	#81
That was the first campaign I volunteered in	LiberalEsto	Oct 2013	#2
He did bring up Watergate. I remember the references in his speeches.	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2013	#11
Not enough. He was too "polite"	LiberalEsto	Oct 2013	#13
His own polling had shown that the public didn't care about Watergate.	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2013	#17
Watergate was not yet Watergate at the time of the election.	former9thward	Oct 2013	#48
We were in a war. Americans wanted a tough guy. N/T	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2013	#72
I was a precinct delegate and worked for McGovern.	longship	Oct 2013	#3
i voted for him.	spanone	Oct 2013	#5
So did I.	ANOIS	Oct 2013	#87
We worked our asses off for McGovern	Gman	Oct 2013	#6
Goldwater was crushed in 64, the right reorganized and 16 years later won it all.	Warren Stupidity	Oct 2013	#7
Won it all? In 1980 Democrats still held the House. N/T	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2013	#70
Sort of.	Warren Stupidity	Oct 2013	#75
He could easily have won the election...	catnhatnh	Oct 2013	#8
LBJ had too many skeltons in his closet to expose other people.	former9thward	Oct 2013	#49
You've forgotten Eagleton?	WinkyDink	Oct 2013	#83
I worked for Mc Govern and rang door bells and met people.	Stuart G	Oct 2013	#9
Me too and I gave more money than I could afford.	broiles	Oct 2013	#46
McGovern doomed himself.	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2013	#10
It was my first campaign supporting a Democrat.	grantcart	Oct 2013	#55
I had forgotten about that.	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2013	#71
Of all the things I have done in politics, the thing I am most proud of is working for McGovern.	chieftain	Oct 2013	#12
Historian Stephen Ambrose said McGovern didn't use his war record well	OmahaBlueDog	Oct 2013	#14
War records as a junior officer aren't much help.	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2013	#18
Being a bomber pilot in WWII took several good qualities	OmahaBlueDog	Oct 2013	#21
My father was a WWII veteran (Army).	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2013	#74
Air medal, Distinguished Flying Cross, 35 combat missions? He was a war hero (see post 27).	MADem	Oct 2013	#28
McGovern could have also used his bomber experience as an argument to end the war in Nam	OmahaBlueDog	Oct 2013	#31
Shrub could only beat Kerry by "swift boating" him--he had to tell lies about him.	MADem	Oct 2013	#33
Poppy Bush was an expert pilot, and a sorry president.	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2013	#68
Expert? He panicked, he bailed out and left his CREW to die!	MADem	Oct 2013	#79
They show that you won't send the peons to do something you wouldn't do yourself	Hippo_Tron	Oct 2013	#51
JFK was a junior officer who showed courage under fire, and it helped him.	MADem	Oct 2013	#57
And the 1960 election was razor thin.	GreenStormCloud	Oct 2013	#69
My Navy family preferred the "courage under fire" guy to the "In the rear With The Gear" guy.	MADem	Oct 2013	#76
He didn't use it at ALL. And he wasn't just an excellent pilot! He was a war HERO.	MADem	Oct 2013	#27
Listen to MaDem ^^	OmahaBlueDog	Oct 2013	#29
I'm proud to say that I campaigned and voted for him.	scarletwoman	Oct 2013	#15
Me too...my 1st vote.	Old and In the Way	Oct 2013	#62
I supported McCarthy in the primary but no nose holding was necessary for McGovern.	Tierra_y_Libertad	Oct 2013	#16
Gone back to the 1968 rules committee to not change voting rules so drasticlly	CatholicEdHead	Oct 2013	#19
THey should have leaked all the stuff about Watergate to the American public	gopiscrap	Oct 2013	#20
The Media covered up Watergate	RobertEarl	Oct 2013	#23
Watergate came about from the Media.	former9thward	Oct 2013	#50
I voted for George, lost because of Dem factualism, it was one nasty campaign.	CK_John	Oct 2013	#22
I will always be proud that the first vote I ever cast was for George McGovern. n/t	dflprincess	Oct 2013	#25
McGovern was my first presidential vote.	Blue_In_AK	Oct 2013	#30
Seems like only a few yrs. ago. Mailings. Door hangers,	Eleanors38	Oct 2013	#32
Talk about his military record and not pull any punches.	Deep13	Oct 2013	#34
McGovern was never going to win that election...	Drunken Irishman	Oct 2013	#35
I think that election, more than any election in the last 70 years, speaks to the issue of..........	steve2470	Oct 2013	#36
Yeah. I see it impossible unless Watergate blows up in '72 and even then...	Drunken Irishman	Oct 2013	#37
Ed Muskie wasn't going to beat Nixon, either though....	Hippo_Tron	Oct 2013	#54
Democrats stood little chance in '72.	Drunken Irishman	Oct 2013	#59
Edmund Muskie and George Wallace were only candidates CREEP was worried about...	MinM	Oct 2013	#85
Nixon was a paranoid nutcase, his worries were over nothing...	Hippo_Tron	Oct 2013	#91
The Canuck Letter	MinM	Oct 2013	#95
McGovern had a path to 270, certainly,	nyquil_man	Oct 2013	#38
great post, thank you	steve2470	Oct 2013	#39
This reminds me of something I saw years ago in a poli sci textbook.	nyquil_man	Oct 2013	#40
A lot of the Democratic establishment actively worked against him	eridani	Oct 2013	#41
National party types tend to be most concerned with keeping their own power.	bemildred	Oct 2013	#43
My point was that not all dissidents are treated equally	eridani	Oct 2013	#64
It's more of a threat.	bemildred	Oct 2013	#66
Greens, socialists and Democrats would have to be on the same side in order for	eridani	Oct 2013	#86
It depends on what your goals are.	bemildred	Oct 2013	#88
OK--not quite sure until now what point you were trying to make n/t	eridani	Oct 2013	#92
I am explaining why National Party types will NEVER support political insurgencies.	bemildred	Oct 2013	#93
I look at this in two ways...	Hippo_Tron	Oct 2013	#56
There's a degree of self-fulfilling prophecy in their actions.	nyquil_man	Oct 2013	#65
I voted for him, I still have buttons. I'd do it again.	bemildred	Oct 2013	#42
if America knew about the prairie populist, war hero, Methodist minister and history teacher that	Douglas Carpenter	Oct 2013	#44
I would have voted for McGovern in the general	treestar	Oct 2013	#45
Nixon was probably unbeatable	Hippo_Tron	Oct 2013	#53
Hunter Thompson said that McGovern lacked a "streak of Mick Jagger in his soul..."	First Speaker	Oct 2013	#58
Elections are too important to leave to the tepidness. Ask Dukakis...	Drunken Irishman	Oct 2013	#60
Well, I voted for him and campaigned for him in my	MineralMan	Oct 2013	#61
Ivoted for him(of course)but wrote him to drop out in primaries.A summary of the posts I agree with:	UTUSN	Oct 2013	#63
If I'd been American and old enough to vote, I'd have voted for McGovern - no doubt at all!	LeftishBrit	Oct 2013	#67
Don't know....	llmart	Oct 2013	#73
He probably wouldn't have won anyway, but...	book_worm	Oct 2013	#77
I voted for him. There was no way in Hades he was going to win. I think the result evidences that.	WinkyDink	Oct 2013	#80
That is easy - worked a booth at the fair and voted for him.	DURHAM D	Oct 2013	#84
kick for more discussion nt	steve2470	Oct 2013	#89
McGovern wanted to legalize marijuana and end the Vietnam War,	B Calm	Oct 2013	#94
The amount of crap pulled by the repugs in that election was staggering	marym625	May 2015	#96

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