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Response to MADem (Reply #50)

Fri Oct 25, 2013, 03:07 PM

51. I've seen it. Take 5 minutes and watch these two videos.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/25/world/greece-roma-children/ (edit: CNN adjusted the link of the video I referenced here since my post, I'll try to get the actual one I was referencing linked)
Second edit: The link to the video I originally referenced is now here: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/24/world/europe/greece-roma-visit/index.html -- and the mentions of non-Roma people buying children from Roma couples is what I think is going to end up being the big news.)

http://www.stuff.co.nz/lightbox/world/videos/9326794/Suspected-mother-in-Greek-Maria-case?KeepThis=true

I do think you are making more of the fact they had separate attorneys than I would -- any couple in such a situation would be recommended to have individual attorneys, they were arrested. And each lawyer is going to try to get the best deal for their client, which means adversarial proceedings usually even in much less notorious cases where a married couple are accused of a crime.

Yes, this kind of thing does happen. Saying that's absolutely, positively what's happening here based on extremely biased news coverage and some documentaries from other countries is the same as suggesting that "Banging In Little Rock" is good enough reason to assume that a random black family in Atlanta is affiliated with gangs.

And your "this is not" was actually a pretty accurate characterization of what DOES happen to Roma in Greece -- no, they weren't going in to check the skin colors of all the kids, but there was no specific probable cause against this family for them to have entered their home in the first place, and that was noted in the very beginning of this investigation and excused by all involved as an "ends justify the means" situation. Notice they haven't been charged with guns or drugs, or even having a headdress.

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