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12. Raise the income cap. nt

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So here we go again. House Dem Van Hollen says possible cuts to entitlements on the table. [View all] madfloridian Oct 2013 OP

Seems to me the article implies Van Hollen is against chained CPI. Mass Oct 2013 #1

Yes, but it is the Democratics who put it on the table before. madfloridian Oct 2013 #2

Were they asked? Mass Oct 2013 #3

No, we have the offer to put it on the table. madfloridian Oct 2013 #8

Yes, we have the FACT that a Democratic President put that on the table. Howevever sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #23

Agreed, it must be removed from the table out loud so we hear it. madfloridian Oct 2013 #25

Plus one! Out loud! Enthusiast Oct 2013 #52

The article was written to CONFUSE ReRe Oct 2013 #96

The 'entitlement cuts in exchange for tax increases' seems to be part of the 'grand bargain' PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #4

We fix SS by eliminating the CAP. We fix Medicare by making the eligibility age -9 Months and Vincardog Oct 2013 #93

Your post title is misleading to the point of being dishonest. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #5

Not dishonest at all. We know it is still on the table. madfloridian Oct 2013 #9

The article says van hollen is willing to consider measures other than cuts. geek tragedy Oct 2013 #10

"He said he would want to avoid changes that reduce the benefits that Americans receive." rhett o rick Oct 2013 #43

That's not what the title says n/t Fumesucker Oct 2013 #19

+1 on the misleading title IronLionZion Oct 2013 #28

He clearly did not say that cuts were off the table. He said he wants to avoid. Pretty flimsy. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #44

House Minority members don't have the authority to declare anything off the table.nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #69

No, it is NOT misleading, in fact it is very restrained. The very idea that ANY sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #30

...... madfloridian Oct 2013 #34

+1. These budget discussions always seem to skip initial and important questions. winter is coming Oct 2013 #39

Excellent post, thank you! sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #40

Amen, great idea. madfloridian Oct 2013 #42

You are ruining perfectly good manufactured outrage!!! JoePhilly Oct 2013 #63

For every dollar cut from SS or Medicare, I want $100,000 in new tax revenue from the wealthiest. Scuba Oct 2013 #6

medicare change to cut costs: negotiate drug prices. nt msongs Oct 2013 #7

Senator Mark Warner (VA) Iwillnevergiveup Oct 2013 #11

Bullshit Cryptoad Oct 2013 #13

What does that mean? sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #35

you are about 180 degrees off on my post Cryptoad Oct 2013 #50

I agree completely. n/t whathehell Oct 2013 #82

I already called Durbin's office. Will definitely call Warner's. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #41

Raise the income cap. nt LiberalEsto Oct 2013 #12

Make Fica a progressive tax! nt Cryptoad Oct 2013 #14

So exactly how surprised should I pretend to be? nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #15

Don't trust him senseandsensibility Oct 2013 #16

If Democrats are unwilling to make any cuts to entitlements, what would you see as a compromise maui902 Oct 2013 #17

This GOP-teabagger idiots Cryptoad Oct 2013 #22

There should be no compromise on these programs at all. No need for it. madfloridian Oct 2013 #26

Most Dems view cuts to SS and Medicare as a moral compromise. No compromise on that. No deal. leveymg Oct 2013 #27

Explain please how cuts to a Fund that has zero to do with the Central Fund sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #32

SS has ZERO TO DO WITH THE FED BUDGET. sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #36

+1000000 liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #46

Compromise on something temporary, don't start cutting social security or medicare. lark Oct 2013 #71

It's all political pablum... kentuck Oct 2013 #18

There SHOULD be tax increases on the wealthy and SS should not be a part sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #37

+10000 n/t whathehell Oct 2013 #91

Has anybody heard Cryptoad Oct 2013 #20

Some important points: First it depends on if the Democrats and Obama switch to Chained okaawhatever Oct 2013 #21

The GOP already accused Dems of balancing budget on the backs of seniors. madfloridian Oct 2013 #57

No, No and HELL No.... Swede Atlanta Oct 2013 #24

In this political climate there will not likely be a "grand bargain". nevergiveup Oct 2013 #29

Agreed. We should not let up on the pressure. madfloridian Oct 2013 #56

Sure, I'll accept a change in Medicare Jack Rabbit Oct 2013 #31

Kick !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #33

Here is what I say..... Hotler Oct 2013 #38

What Durbin said... madfloridian Oct 2013 #45

Any grand bargain attempt is doomed to failure because of the sequester Recursion Oct 2013 #47

Geez...you'd think CvH would be tired of hearing from me by now. Chan790 Oct 2013 #48

OMG Social Security does not add one nickel to the deficit. Tax cuts do. grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #49

They will never agree to anything anyway!!!! bravenak Oct 2013 #51

the people in their 40`s and 50`s better wake up. madrchsod Oct 2013 #53

They should be fighting this battle constantly. madfloridian Oct 2013 #55

Then they should set an example by cutting their money first. hobbit709 Oct 2013 #54

Dem leaders don't represent the people - that's where our side refuses to face reality. polichick Oct 2013 #58

Just once it would be nice LiberalLovinLug Oct 2013 #59

"constant pre-negotiation capitulation." madfloridian Oct 2013 #60

It almost makes you wonder what they REALLY stand for, doesn't it? Myrina Oct 2013 #62

Key phrase ... "Here we go again." JoePhilly Oct 2013 #61

That is a very condescending post. I really resent it. madfloridian Oct 2013 #67

The same cuts to social security that you describe ... JoePhilly Oct 2013 #70

I do NOT bash the president. Never have, never will. madfloridian Oct 2013 #73

I said it happens in these threads. JoePhilly Oct 2013 #74

No, it is not at all. I agree with Teddy Roosevelt. madfloridian Oct 2013 #85

I dont understand the need to disparage others for being vigilant, skeptical and always rhett o rick Oct 2013 #75

The claim that "Obama hates old people" ... JoePhilly Oct 2013 #77

The middle class has a lot in the last 30 years. IMO there hasnt been enough "hair on fire". rhett o rick Oct 2013 #78

Who said "relax"? JoePhilly Oct 2013 #81

Bares repeating: rgbecker Oct 2013 #64

Even the old way of calculating COLAs is BS... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #65

It is and considering they raise the price of Medicare to Cleita Oct 2013 #87

Like Carlin said... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2013 #92

How many times... iandhr Oct 2013 #66

His JOB is now on the table. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #68

K&R! nt Poll_Blind Oct 2013 #72

"No" to any cuts..nada, zilch, zero, nothing. nt snappyturtle Oct 2013 #76

So... "closing various tax loopholes" is a tax increase in Republi-speak? Owl Oct 2013 #79

FUCKING FASCISTS!! AAO Oct 2013 #80

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Jakes Progress Oct 2013 #83

Can we for once let Republicans make these offers? NewJeffCT Oct 2013 #84

I give up. Cleita Oct 2013 #86

never give up, fight back! WE NEED TO PRIMARY HIM, NOW! NuttyFluffers Oct 2013 #95

Post removed Post removed Oct 2013 #88

Uh. Huh. eom uppityperson Oct 2013 #90

Agreeing to steal EARNED & FUNDED benefits if tax loopholes are closed is NOT ACCEPTABLE Faryn Balyncd Oct 2013 #89

Van Hollen is my congressperson. Faygo Kid Oct 2013 #94

His office says he's against using chained CPI IronLionZion Oct 2013 #97