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49. Clarification of the group SOP having heard from Skinner in ATA:
Tue Oct 22, 2013, 11:17 AM
Oct 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1259&pid=3787

Skinner wondered: "So, you want a group where people can't question the quality of sources?"

To which I replied:

"Dodgy" sources is kind of subjective, plenty of MSM articles use dodgy sources, that's almost why there's a roll to be played by less well known sources.

If you're going to equate "emerging" and "alternative" and "less well known" descriptors with "dodgy", then it's going to be pretty hard to advocate for creating a place for these stories and sources.

The BOG, mens' and womens' group, guns and anti-guns, and other groups have protections for good reason-- to give people a place to post without fear of condemnation and drama.

The intent of the proposed group is by no means primarily to escape the drama, but that is as desirable here as it is for the groups above because you can't plant seeds if people are pissing on them all the time.

The purpose is to post and promote new emerging progressive sources and modes of delivery.

The antithesis of these are what we have now: blogs, cable, news recyclers like Drudge and Huffington Post, Yahoo News, etc., delivered through standard ISPs, cable, or broadband.

DU can be part of helping nurture these emerging challengers or we can just let them die or thrive on their own while the rest of the media becomes more concentrated.

In addition to the emerging sources using conventional modes that could use a boost (as described above), there are new modes of delivery that don't have a home on DU, including Satellite and other radio, social media, broadcast, AppleTV-Roku, etc.

How about a home for the emerging technologies and using them to get news and as a tool for activism?



Promotion of new competitors to the MSM is more at the heart of this idea than anything.

Assembling "alternative" media sources? BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #1
Thanks! Yes, we think we'll post resources in a pinned thread. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #2
sounds like it could get a little rough and tumble. mopinko Oct 2013 #3
Nah...sound like more of a Resource for New Progressive Media. KoKo Oct 2013 #8
The "safe" aspect is one of the reasons for and protections included with the concept. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #12
I like this idea....count me in. Got a question....read on NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #4
There is a group (propaganda debunking). hay rick Oct 2013 #5
thanks - that does it in part, but isn't as active as it can/should be...and NRaleighLiberal Oct 2013 #6
I think that the "media activist" utility could be integrated in the group. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #13
I would like to see such media get more exposure tkmorris Oct 2013 #7
Have to agree with that BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #9
Why couldn't you still post articles from those sites KoKo Oct 2013 #16
Yep. I would. BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #17
Good input. I'd say that there's nothing to prevent cross-posting to the main forums.... NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #15
I strongly recommend cross posting because some progressives may like the rhett o rick Oct 2013 #44
Correct. Thank you. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #45
I would like to suggest that the group have pinned threads for major topics. rhett o rick Oct 2013 #46
Excellent suggestion. We will do that, pinned thread at top with links. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #47
Count me in ! I've been on a post-NPR (news) quest of my own and would love to share corkhead Oct 2013 #10
Great, I'm sure many of us have a great but little known source to share. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #18
I'm in. Time for unvarnished truth. rug Oct 2013 #11
Sounds like a very interesting group! eom cry baby Oct 2013 #14
Sounds good to me! Lady Freedom Returns Oct 2013 #19
This sounds like a wonderful idea! In_The_Wind Oct 2013 #20
Sounds brilliant, SKP Cha Oct 2013 #21
I support the idea, could add my radio show in there The Straight Story Oct 2013 #22
Perfect! NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #23
Awesome, love the twitter side/idea The Straight Story Oct 2013 #24
Count me in. SalviaBlue Oct 2013 #25
I'm in ... MindMover Oct 2013 #26
I love the ideal.. blue14u Oct 2013 #27
That seems like a good idea. Most progressives probably do go sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #28
Indeed. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #30
Great idea... PoiBoy Oct 2013 #29
Sounds good. grantcart Oct 2013 #31
Sounds like a plan. applegrove Oct 2013 #32
Count me in! nt octoberlib Oct 2013 #33
I'm in Shampoobra Oct 2013 #34
On board. PETRUS Oct 2013 #35
I would definitely participate, and I regard it as very valuable... ellenrr Oct 2013 #36
cool Berlum Oct 2013 #37
I'm slightly confused why you're singling out ethernet muriel_volestrangler Oct 2013 #38
Good point, well taken. We used the term ineffectively. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #39
You can use my support nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #40
Your support is critical. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #41
Huge K&R! OneGrassRoot Oct 2013 #42
Sure Spirochete Oct 2013 #43
Finally. antiquie Oct 2013 #48
Clarification of the group SOP having heard from Skinner in ATA: NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #49
What I am hearing is that you want us to promote and maybe be the new press pamphleteers Vincardog Oct 2013 #50
Yes, that, but not only that... NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #51
So you got a link to any example of the new media you want to advocate for? Vincardog Oct 2013 #52
Sure, remember that the list would be dynamic, organic, growing... NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #53
More: NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #55
Well OK it seems like you have this covered. No One could add anything to that list. Unless you cou Vincardog Oct 2013 #56
Still more links: NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #57
I'm in....Thanks! haikugal Oct 2013 #54
Excellent. dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #58
I support this, and good luck getting it approved. AverageJoe90 Oct 2013 #59
Thanks! Got the Green Light from Skinner earlier today! NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #61
that reply is so him! lol I miss the good ol' moddin' days. Divine Discontent Oct 2013 #63
Thanks! The single greatest indicator of a great leader is.... NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #64
so true! Divine Discontent Oct 2013 #65
Throw Truthout and BuzzFlash on the pile. WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #60
Oh hell yeah! NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #62
Has the group now been set up ? dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #66
AFAIK, it's not set up yet. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #67
Thanks. dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #68
I'm in Goblinmonger Oct 2013 #69
Kick! sheshe2 Oct 2013 #70
kick & Recommend. n/t Whisp Nov 2013 #71
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