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In reply to the discussion: Looking for support for a new DU group: "Progressive Media Resources Group" Come Visit!!! [View all]NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)49. Clarification of the group SOP having heard from Skinner in ATA:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1259&pid=3787
Skinner wondered: "So, you want a group where people can't question the quality of sources?"
To which I replied:
"Dodgy" sources is kind of subjective, plenty of MSM articles use dodgy sources, that's almost why there's a roll to be played by less well known sources.
If you're going to equate "emerging" and "alternative" and "less well known" descriptors with "dodgy", then it's going to be pretty hard to advocate for creating a place for these stories and sources.
The BOG, mens' and womens' group, guns and anti-guns, and other groups have protections for good reason-- to give people a place to post without fear of condemnation and drama.
The intent of the proposed group is by no means primarily to escape the drama, but that is as desirable here as it is for the groups above because you can't plant seeds if people are pissing on them all the time.
The purpose is to post and promote new emerging progressive sources and modes of delivery.
The antithesis of these are what we have now: blogs, cable, news recyclers like Drudge and Huffington Post, Yahoo News, etc., delivered through standard ISPs, cable, or broadband.
DU can be part of helping nurture these emerging challengers or we can just let them die or thrive on their own while the rest of the media becomes more concentrated.
In addition to the emerging sources using conventional modes that could use a boost (as described above), there are new modes of delivery that don't have a home on DU, including Satellite and other radio, social media, broadcast, AppleTV-Roku, etc.
How about a home for the emerging technologies and using them to get news and as a tool for activism?
Promotion of new competitors to the MSM is more at the heart of this idea than anything.
Skinner wondered: "So, you want a group where people can't question the quality of sources?"
To which I replied:
"Dodgy" sources is kind of subjective, plenty of MSM articles use dodgy sources, that's almost why there's a roll to be played by less well known sources.
If you're going to equate "emerging" and "alternative" and "less well known" descriptors with "dodgy", then it's going to be pretty hard to advocate for creating a place for these stories and sources.
The BOG, mens' and womens' group, guns and anti-guns, and other groups have protections for good reason-- to give people a place to post without fear of condemnation and drama.
The intent of the proposed group is by no means primarily to escape the drama, but that is as desirable here as it is for the groups above because you can't plant seeds if people are pissing on them all the time.
The purpose is to post and promote new emerging progressive sources and modes of delivery.
The antithesis of these are what we have now: blogs, cable, news recyclers like Drudge and Huffington Post, Yahoo News, etc., delivered through standard ISPs, cable, or broadband.
DU can be part of helping nurture these emerging challengers or we can just let them die or thrive on their own while the rest of the media becomes more concentrated.
In addition to the emerging sources using conventional modes that could use a boost (as described above), there are new modes of delivery that don't have a home on DU, including Satellite and other radio, social media, broadcast, AppleTV-Roku, etc.
How about a home for the emerging technologies and using them to get news and as a tool for activism?
Promotion of new competitors to the MSM is more at the heart of this idea than anything.
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Looking for support for a new DU group: "Progressive Media Resources Group" Come Visit!!! [View all]
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
OP
The "safe" aspect is one of the reasons for and protections included with the concept.
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#12
thanks - that does it in part, but isn't as active as it can/should be...and
NRaleighLiberal
Oct 2013
#6
Good input. I'd say that there's nothing to prevent cross-posting to the main forums....
NYC_SKP
Oct 2013
#15
I would like to suggest that the group have pinned threads for major topics.
rhett o rick
Oct 2013
#46
Count me in ! I've been on a post-NPR (news) quest of my own and would love to share
corkhead
Oct 2013
#10
What I am hearing is that you want us to promote and maybe be the new press pamphleteers
Vincardog
Oct 2013
#50