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marlakay

(11,370 posts)
220. How much of it have they already borrowed?
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 07:22 PM
Oct 2013

I wonder if the real problem is they spent our money!

Et tu Dick Durbin? AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #269
No. Raise the cap on payments. It's called Fair Share. No cuts. Expand the funding base. libdem4life Oct 2013 #2
This! n/t dobleremolque Oct 2013 #30
It need a step more thatn removing the caps Cryptoad Oct 2013 #103
SO the richest 100 people might be eligible for 260k annual retirement benefits FogerRox Oct 2013 #172
You don't need a cap--just a very slowly increasing upward slope n/t eridani Oct 2013 #257
Does that sound like a means test? FogerRox Oct 2013 #276
No-it already exists eridani Oct 2013 #288
Bend points are not considered a means test FogerRox Oct 2013 #292
return to the 90% cap, or create 23 million jobs @36k FogerRox Oct 2013 #121
$90 Billion...had no idea. That would probably be easier (?) than SS changes. libdem4life Oct 2013 #179
I thought the same thing when I did the math.... FogerRox Oct 2013 #201
That makes sense. Because once you open up the SS conversation, kind of like a genie in a bottle. libdem4life Oct 2013 #206
Raise the cap. n/t Alkene Oct 2013 #167
Has anyone done figures on this at various levels? libdem4life Oct 2013 #181
CBO FogerRox Oct 2013 #211
Now I remember why I wasn't an accountant...appreciate the explanation. Put in minimum wage libdem4life Oct 2013 #219
The government has treated SS as a revenue stream to avoid raising taxes so raise the cap or, emsimon33 Oct 2013 #250
It almost seems hopeless when a battle has to be fought on all fronts. Autumn Oct 2013 #3
When a prominent Democrat like Durbin LIES through his teeth to the detriment of poor people 99th_Monkey Oct 2013 #4
He's a fucking dino. L0oniX Oct 2013 #8
He's also a Dick. nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2013 #11
He's both. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #85
Durbin is not welcome in Palm Springs he voted for DOMA so he should stay among Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #79
I quit donating to Durbin when he first expressed his support for cuts to social security. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #84
And he IS lying. SS is NOT in trouble, and the Baby Boomers, contrary to his false claims are the sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #173
Thank you sabrina 1 99th_Monkey Oct 2013 #200
+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - And Thank You !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #203
k&r idwiyo Oct 2013 #238
Cut 50% from the biggest entitlement program of all - the Defense Dept budget tularetom Oct 2013 #5
I agree with you however Heather MC Oct 2013 #71
Support Elizabeth Warren. I bet she knows how to make the right cuts. She is good at math. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #158
A US military 50% of its present size is still too large. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #93
Actually the size of the military personnel wise is small nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #100
Whatever we throw the money at is what should be cut. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #105
Agreed nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #113
We should close some of our overseas bases to start with. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #162
The costs are not in the bases nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #168
many times the host countries pay the operating costs of littlewolf Oct 2013 #224
Cut 50% from the biggest entitlement program of all - the Defense Dept budget AlbertCat Oct 2013 #151
A chained CPI would be a really great way ... dawg Oct 2013 #6
That's right. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #55
I think this is political chess. The Repubs want SS cuts, but none of them campaign on it with okaawhatever Oct 2013 #80
That's why we must stand against it. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #109
Based on his actions, I would say that it's Durbin's mission to derail Democratic victories. gtar100 Oct 2013 #81
It figures that the talk shows would have Durbin on there to LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #98
But it would only defeat those of us that don't count. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #99
Any change in Social Security benefits that results in a decrease is a DEFAULT JDPriestly Oct 2013 #164
I hadn't looked at it that way. It's certainly true, though. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #185
Sadly the other creditors like it dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #236
I'd bet you cash money that's what's coming. Obama has been maneuvering for SS cuts Marr Oct 2013 #244
But democrats being democrats, we all have to worry about their lack of a spine. truedelphi Oct 2013 #280
Raise the cap and cut the military. Stop blaming the boomers ya fuckin sociopaths! L0oniX Oct 2013 #7
PLUS! this one....nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #101
Well said. polichick Oct 2013 #117
The push should be to contact every Democrat in Congress AtomicKitten Oct 2013 #9
Perfect timing. This will revitalize the GOP. It's nothing but a gift to Republicans. jsr Oct 2013 #10
Do you think so? If the Repubs push SS cuts what will happen to their large senior base? I think okaawhatever Oct 2013 #96
How are we putting it in the lap of the republicans when a senior Democratic senator tularetom Oct 2013 #135
It's not lost on me that the person who spoke on Fox has one of the safest Senate seats. Not okaawhatever Oct 2013 #187
Why would seniors vote Democratic when the biggest push to screw with SS Leontius Oct 2013 #165
Are you seriously suggesting letting cuts to seniors to go through just so 'we can get their votes'? sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #247
From April 10th 2013 damnedifIknow Oct 2013 #12
My definition of smarter must senseandsensibility Oct 2013 #15
Don't forget, "Some in my party are too tied to entitlements" Doctor_J Oct 2013 #18
First they'll have to get out of denial. When he offered it up before some kept telling me it didn't cui bono Oct 2013 #33
Me too. pangaia Oct 2013 #52
Well, if the President wants it, it is something good, something we should all embrace. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #111
Hillary will agree to those cuts. Support Elizabeth Warren. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #171
don't jinx warren. your support for smoove johnny was enough. nt dionysus Oct 2013 #240
John Edwards was the only candidate who had the right take on the economy. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #246
Ironically, Hillary took SS off the table. joshcryer Oct 2013 #253
As I recall the debates, Obama suggested raising the cap, and Hillary disagreed. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #254
Clinton was trying to shed the "partisan" image that she had. joshcryer Oct 2013 #255
Clinton suggested a bipartisan commission. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #258
Precisely. joshcryer Oct 2013 #259
In 2004, Obama suggested raising the cap. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #260
He's suggested it all the way up until September of 2012! joshcryer Oct 2013 #261
Good Fact Check! Thank for posting this and the strategy that could KoKo Oct 2013 #266
"Everything is on the table." - Obama ... 2008. joshcryer Oct 2013 #252
Too say- ruffburr Oct 2013 #13
To say that is being too generous. Dems have to want this too or they wouldn't be offering it up cui bono Oct 2013 #32
Better plan, solve this on SEVERAL FRONTS. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #57
I believe you nailed it with just the first one, raising the cap. cui bono Oct 2013 #65
In 2008 Obama ran on raising the cap, this won my vote and he never mentioned it Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #87
And now he wants to have a Chained CPI. cui bono Oct 2013 #91
No, but he got unlimited income on 3% hike for medicare. That's a huge increase. nt okaawhatever Oct 2013 #104
Something is rotten, alright. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #116
Raising the cap to 90% of taxable income covers 1/3rd of the projected shortfall, from the CBO: FogerRox Oct 2013 #136
Thanks for the info! cui bono Oct 2013 #144
thanks, just doing my job as a DU Social Security Defender FogerRox Oct 2013 #161
That's a good chart that puts some things in perspective. Hoyt Oct 2013 #155
Yes it is. Some back ground: FogerRox Oct 2013 #170
Jobs are clearly the key, but those projections are based on employment levels, Hoyt Oct 2013 #175
4 different projections by the SS Trustees FogerRox Oct 2013 #199
Once again, assuming things go as planned. We might have an unemployment rate double today's by Hoyt Oct 2013 #221
wrong, they are not based in historical averages FogerRox Oct 2013 #230
So projections are quite optimistic - GDP growth greater than we've seen in awhile, and Hoyt Oct 2013 #233
No, the SS Trustees projections are based on conservative estimates. FogerRox Oct 2013 #275
That's the point, we haven't met those projections in awhile. Yet Hoyt Oct 2013 #281
Whats a awhile? 5-10 years? FogerRox Oct 2013 #282
Where are all those jobs coming from? Ask the Japanese how things have Hoyt Oct 2013 #283
Please answer the question FogerRox Oct 2013 #285
Do you see any sign that is about to happen? Hoyt Oct 2013 #287
You are right. Nothing wrong with Social Security that more jobs and a higher minimum JDPriestly Oct 2013 #176
Yes, well said, when it was clear the USSR would fall, things did change FogerRox Oct 2013 #208
Thanks. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #213
Certainly that is a direct fix for social security but.... Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #159
Your not counting the Unearned Income Medicare Contribution Tax of 3.8% FogerRox Oct 2013 #216
OK, but if we can close some loopholes so they actually PAY 40% I'll be happy. nt Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #222
We're at a historically low point for loopholes. FogerRox Oct 2013 #228
I am very disappointed in Durbin senseandsensibility Oct 2013 #14
It wouldn't really be a cave-in since the president himself suggested them Doctor_J Oct 2013 #16
Yep. And would you believe I got attacked for saying that now that Obama opened up SS cui bono Oct 2013 #31
They're so damn eager to please their true masters......nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #118
Cave-in is not the right wording. The word is default. It would be a default. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #189
Good point. The president made much political hay during the shutdown about Doctor_J Oct 2013 #190
The government can't go broke anyway. n/t duffyduff Oct 2013 #205
But it can refuse to pay a debt, such as the debt it owes to the Social Security Trust Fund. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #210
The Baby Boom generation? tavernier Oct 2013 #17
ding ding ding ... thread winner! littlewolf Oct 2013 #20
You started two unnecessary counterproductive wars. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #123
Exactly. Statistically speaking in 20 years 50% of Boomers will be dead FogerRox Oct 2013 #140
Right. My sister and I delivered ads door to door. I was maybe 7-9 at the time. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #191
Exactly Nite Owl Oct 2013 #24
I remember them raising the retirement age for us baby boomers, B Calm Oct 2013 #44
They also raised our payroll taxes, supposedly to fund SS in perpetuity. Looks Nay Oct 2013 #78
Actually it was going to fund SS in perpetuity FogerRox Oct 2013 #157
This. ^^^ CrispyQ Oct 2013 #47
+ 1000 SOCIAL SECURITY IS NOT AN ENTITLEMENT nt Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #59
Social Security IS AN ENTITLEMENT. RebelOne Oct 2013 #68
Not the way the rethugs use it. The money IS yours no doubt about that. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #76
Exactly. Entitlement is NOT a bad word. n/t cui bono Oct 2013 #92
legally its an entitlement, the original 1935 law has the word FogerRox Oct 2013 #229
+1 G_j Oct 2013 #69
When the trust fund has been spent all the $ you contributed is gone to pay others. dkf Oct 2013 #77
If "pay it forward" was the reason it was depleted tavernier Oct 2013 #89
The general fund "borrowed" that money. That is the trust fund that will deplete. dkf Oct 2013 #90
Oh, cool! tavernier Oct 2013 #106
Yeah we the tax payer pay interest for the general fund's borrowing from our social security fund. dkf Oct 2013 #129
All the SSTF money is there. Always has been. FogerRox Oct 2013 #152
not only did we put money in every day of our working lives, we put *extra* money in because magical thyme Oct 2013 #108
That's the whole game, isn't it? Divide & conquer BelgianMadCow Oct 2013 #207
!!!!! Exactly! KoKo Oct 2013 #267
K&R n/t Dalai_1 Oct 2013 #19
They're counting on our fatigue to push through SS and Medicaid cuts instead of raising 1% taxes leveymg Oct 2013 #21
The point is, though, Nay Oct 2013 #112
The answer is: leveymg Oct 2013 #148
Democrats are mentioning it, very covertly and cleverly, on the Cleita Oct 2013 #22
And of course after next year's midterm disaster, it will be the liberals fault Doctor_J Oct 2013 #35
We will hear exactly that meme right here on the DU. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #127
We're supposed to believe (again) that the Ponies frightened away undecided voters? leveymg Oct 2013 #178
I don't think that conservative penis is so big pangaia Oct 2013 #60
Yes. They are compensating. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #128
Many of those wackos have small feet. pangaia Oct 2013 #147
OK, Dick, the People demand that Congress return every cent of the money it stole from our Social Zorra Oct 2013 #23
That is great info to put in a letter to our senators/reps. CrispyQ Oct 2013 #56
You're welcome. It is what it is, and what it is is OUR money. Zorra Oct 2013 #67
That's why it's so important for those of us with dem reps to keep on them. CrispyQ Oct 2013 #75
Fuck The Corp Wing of the Dem Party fredamae Oct 2013 #25
Most Democrats are cast members, along with all of the Republicans in this distracting, but sad tale Dustlawyer Oct 2013 #26
Income Cap Bobcat Oct 2013 #27
+1. n/t Laelth Oct 2013 #37
it is considered a tax handmade34 Oct 2013 #38
social security would be extremely easy to fix. airplaneman Oct 2013 #45
If you tax stocks, you tax pension plans. WinkyDink Oct 2013 #51
If you tax stock transactions, you tax transactions made by pension plans. So what? Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #94
"Day trader" was not mentioned in the post to which I replied. WinkyDink Oct 2013 #215
Taxing stocks was not mentioned in that post either, but you made that assumption Dragonfli Oct 2013 #263
Obviously they do not want to fix it. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #130
There is no problem with Social Security FogerRox Oct 2013 #149
If anyone finds the video clip of this little exchange Oilwellian Oct 2013 #28
Durbin needs a little lesson on how SS does not contribute to the deficit. cui bono Oct 2013 #29
Maybe he has a point, if people would THINK about it. MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #34
That's it exactly - eom dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #239
HOW can these men be such abject LIARS?? Do they think we cannot access the real truth in numbers?? WinkyDink Oct 2013 #36
Winky, they do not care if we can access the truth. djean111 Oct 2013 #256
Your point makes me want to cry. I'll be 64 soon, and that, God willing, leads to sixty-five. I've WinkyDink Oct 2013 #268
This baby boomer and husband.... dawnie51 Oct 2013 #39
My letter to my three: CrispyQ Oct 2013 #40
Social Security is a separately funded program. what is their lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #41
They want to raid the SS fund. IT needs to be in a LOCK BOX. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #62
Gore was right, and the msm laughed lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #131
Yeah but they laugh about a lot of stuff that isn't funny. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #141
I sure do lostincalifornia Oct 2013 #192
Get our Living Wage Jobs back into this country would extend Social Security for at least forever. RC Oct 2013 #42
One thing my centrist senator Mark Begich has done right Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #43
Centrists say anything that works that day. Obama has proposed raising the cap Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #102
I think you may be being a little harsh on Mark, Blue_In_AK Oct 2013 #115
K&R DeSwiss Oct 2013 #46
Going after BY NAME the "BBG" is a shameless attempt to get the "YOUTH VOTE." Rule for the 14-yr-old WinkyDink Oct 2013 #48
You're wrong Oilwellian Oct 2013 #95
And that makes my comments wrong how? WinkyDink Oct 2013 #214
Your last sentence left me with the impression... Oilwellian Oct 2013 #226
If they would worry more about getting jobs back to the US Curmudgeoness Oct 2013 #49
We would also be paying all sorts of other taxes! CrispyQ Oct 2013 #70
Correct. creating 20 million jobs @ 36k each adds about 89 billion in additional FICA FogerRox Oct 2013 #145
Maybe they should stop the push for TPP. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #138
I have always been of the opinion that these trade agreements Curmudgeoness Oct 2013 #146
The investment class has been the one and only real beneficiary. Enthusiast Oct 2013 #154
Right? Give Durbin a piece of your mind. I did. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #150
Bravo! Curmudgeoness Oct 2013 #166
I've BEEN to Mexico and it's true!! Barter is part of the fun of shopping there. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #174
I see it differently. Curmudgeoness Oct 2013 #180
Yeah, like divorce court - ask for 10x what you need to get what you do need. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #184
I had a sign libdude Oct 2013 #50
Yeah, what part of "NO" don't you understand? is a good one. Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #223
Why Democrats Might Cave On Social Security Cuts Nuh Uh Oct 2013 #53
@ Dick Durbin, Esteemed Senator, Have you lost your mind or just your spine? Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #73
Should we not Primary the Democratic Party Traitors aintitfunny Oct 2013 #54
What about campaign escrow accounts? dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #241
Mind-blowing!!! avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #58
We need a counter bill to lower SS to at least age 50yrs. This will generate a lot of CK_John Oct 2013 #61
Now now now, let's not get our undies in a bunch. progressoid Oct 2013 #63
Better yet, wait until the president signs it. jsr Oct 2013 #72
But why just sit back and let it get that far? Brigid Oct 2013 #86
That's the point of the sarcasm. cui bono Oct 2013 #97
Yep. The "hair on fire" meme.... socialist_n_TN Oct 2013 #217
Yeah, and we shouldn't be getting our panties in a bunch about stuff Nay Oct 2013 #107
Of course if he signs it, then it must be good. So there won't be any reason to complain. progressoid Oct 2013 #195
Yep. It's time for the elderly and disabled to sacrifice for the greater good jsr Oct 2013 #197
Like the last 1342;2nou4123n times nothing happened? regards uponit7771 Oct 2013 #160
Or like the time he abandoned plans to bomb Syria due to public pressure. progressoid Oct 2013 #198
so dems are back to bending over for repubs? well that "spine" didnt last long lol nt msongs Oct 2013 #64
Durbin Has Been Going DINO For Some Time colsohlibgal Oct 2013 #66
*****NOT THIS HOF SHIT AGAIN !!! ****** uponit7771 Oct 2013 #74
SS DOES NOT ADD ONE NICKEL TO THE DEFICIT! grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #83
***WHAT DOES HOF MEAN???**** morningfog Oct 2013 #120
****I DON'T HOF KNOW***** cui bono Oct 2013 #122
Hair On Fire, basically bringing up negative speculative narrative that 9.5 out of 10 fails. The ... uponit7771 Oct 2013 #156
Obama's budget is not speculation. Nor are his words in favor of cuts, or Durbin's which are the Dragonfli Oct 2013 #183
****PATHETIC ATTEMPT ON YOUR PART TO DISTRACT**** Skeeter Barnes Oct 2013 #143
+++++++************---------NO IT'S NOT*****////////////+++++++++++++ uponit7771 Oct 2013 #163
what is HOF? Dragonfli Oct 2013 #169
Hair On Fire --- GOP perpetuated crises Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #177
How is that supposed to apply to Durbin's view that we should cut SS, because Baby Boomers? Dragonfli Oct 2013 #188
We, the Baby Boomers, paid extra... ljm2002 Oct 2013 #82
Because the idea is to STEAL the money, not fix the SS system. The fixes are Nay Oct 2013 #125
Exactly right! n/t ljm2002 Oct 2013 #132
How much of it have they already borrowed? marlakay Oct 2013 #220
Lift The Cap global1 Oct 2013 #88
Durbin is worthless as a Democrat, so far to the right that he wants to slash Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #110
hey asshole, most of us boomers have been paying into ss for 40/50 years spanone Oct 2013 #114
One corporate party, two faces. Wake up people. polichick Oct 2013 #119
And only a few pimples fighting for us. cui bono Oct 2013 #124
Ha! True dat. polichick Oct 2013 #126
I guess they want to lose the midterm elections. n/t winter is coming Oct 2013 #133
National security dictates millions of seniors be thrown into poverty by cutting social security indepat Oct 2013 #134
Both of my parents paid in and NEVER collected a cent Lifelong Protester Oct 2013 #137
BS! Raise the ceiling on SS. Problem solved. Raise taxes on wealthy to balance biudget on point Oct 2013 #139
The baby boomers paid extra into the Social Security Trust Fund since the 1980s to cover their JDPriestly Oct 2013 #142
Shhh! There's a loyalty check roadblock just up the thread. leveymg Oct 2013 #182
The 1983 Tip O'neil/Ronald Reagan SS deal. FogerRox Oct 2013 #204
That headline isn't confirmed anywhere in the article. George II Oct 2013 #153
This is GD not LBN. leveymg Oct 2013 #186
Bingo! More assumptions than I could imagine to get to that "conclusion" about what he said George II Oct 2013 #193
Durbin seems clear enough in this statement: ""Social Security is gonna run out of money in 20 years leveymg Oct 2013 #194
Durbin is full of shit. duffyduff Oct 2013 #202
Okay, where did he say "so we need to cut benefits"? George II Oct 2013 #234
So what, ask me if I care..... FogerRox Oct 2013 #212
Ah, I see the admission is that Democrats are NOT going to have to "cave on SS cuts". Excellent! George II Oct 2013 #235
Time for more like minded Independents like Bernie Sanders mc51tc Oct 2013 #196
No one should be surprised about this. Dem leadership has been discussing this for years. DCBob Oct 2013 #209
Just Raise the Friggin Cap! Problem solved. Sheesh. nt NorthCarolina Oct 2013 #218
well, at least we've demonstrated that we're able to resist this crap nashville_brook Oct 2013 #225
The Social Security Trust Fund is invested in Treasury Bonds and the problem is Samantha Oct 2013 #227
The American people are Creditors of the Fed Govt, along with China, Japan and whoever else sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #237
I agree that the failure of the Government to fulfill its obligations to the SS Trust Fund would be Samantha Oct 2013 #243
Another great post, Sabrina. Thank goodness Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #249
there will be a revolution if they do. remember the DesertFlower Oct 2013 #231
That makes no sense to me..... 4bucksagallon Oct 2013 #232
He's saying dreamnightwind Oct 2013 #242
Uh, wait.. a "25% benefit cut in 20 years".. yeah, who cares if SS is cut then instead of now, huh? Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #245
Like most things in life and politics - I will believe it when I see it. Rex Oct 2013 #248
Chained-CPI has always been on the table thanks to our President. joshcryer Oct 2013 #251
Senate/House Negotiators Give Up On Grand Bargain ProSense Oct 2013 #262
No REAL Democrat will ever offer or give in to a reduction in SS. I won't vote for anyone who does. L0oniX Oct 2013 #264
Sen Durbin is proof that all Democrats are not friends of the 99%. No cuts is the line we draw. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #265
We should be fighting for increases. woo me with science Oct 2013 #274
I'm still waiting to find out why it would be hunky dory to do a 25% benefit cut in 20 years. Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #270
I've lost track of the number of times Obama has been predicted to cave.... Hekate Oct 2013 #271
For Those That Missed This... WillyT Oct 2013 #272
K&R woo me with science Oct 2013 #273
If Horizens Oct 2013 #277
If at first you don't succeed POST it again whistler162 Oct 2013 #278
LOL !!! - You Funny !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #289
WHY is Social Security being discussed in the first place? AndyA Oct 2013 #279
Why is there nothing in this comment about the effect of serious job creation on the SS Trust Fund FogerRox Oct 2013 #284
I have discussed the impact of new jobs on social security in other threads in the past AndyA Oct 2013 #290
You are quite correct, SS is quite solvent, yes we can wait, IMHO 10-12 yrs before taking action. FogerRox Oct 2013 #291
Remember this: ProSense Oct 2013 #286
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