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onenote

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26. This bill restates existing law in that regard.
Mon Mar 5, 2012, 07:10 PM
Mar 2012

Sorry if you can't deal with that reality but if you compare Section 1752 as it exists today and how it will exist once the president signs this bill, you'll see that there is no substantive difference beyond the fact that under the amended law the White House, the VP's residence, and the grounds of the WH and VP's residence are added to the areas covered by the law. That's pretty much it.

Here is the description from the House of why the bill was introduced and enacted:

"Current law prohibits unlawful entries upon any restricted building or ground where the President, Vice President or other protectee is temporarily visiting. However, there is no Federal law that expressly prohibits unlawful entry to the White House and its grounds or the Vice President's residence and its grounds.

The Secret Service must therefore rely upon a provision in the District of Columbia Code, which addresses only minor misdemeanor infractions, when someone attempts to or successfully trespasses upon the grounds of the White House or Vice President's residence or, worse, breaches the White House or Vice President's residence itself.

H.R. 347 remedies this problem by specifically including the White House, the Vice President's residence, and their respective grounds in the definition of restricted buildings and grounds for purposes of Section 1752."

In short, this bill makes the Salahi's gate crashing stunt a violation of Section 1752, whereas under the law prior to this amendment, Section 1752 didn't cover the Salahi's stunt.


By the way, the 2004 G8, the 2009 G-20, the 2000 IMF meeting were all designated as national special security events subject to Secret Service oversight. Which explains why there were no protests at any of those events, right?

Final point: Rahm doesn't have the power to invoke this provision. Designation of an event as a National Special Secruity Event is handled by the DHS,not by a mayor. And Rahm wouldn't need to ask DHS to make the designation -- based on past history they would do so whether he asked or not. And the designation doesn't much matter since even if it wasn't designated, it would fall under the law's existing (pre HR 347) scope because the President will be "temporarily visiting" the G8 summit.

Sorry to deflate your balloon with facts.

specifically aimed square unionworks Mar 2012 #1
+1 Le Taz Hot Mar 2012 #4
Funny it didn't come up when Occupy was having its rallies or any other rallies onenote Mar 2012 #8
you are certainly living up to your handle. ~nt 99th_Monkey Mar 2012 #16
well, if there weren't so many folks on DU intent on perpetuating false facts about this bill, onenote Mar 2012 #18
see reply 19 n/t unionworks Mar 2012 #20
There's always the Internet Lawlbringer Mar 2012 #2
Ah ProSense Mar 2012 #3
see reply 19 n/t unionworks Mar 2012 #21
Fearmongering? Perhaps, but why this bill? Why now? Scuba Mar 2012 #5
It was proposed a year ago. Its not a major bill or a high priority. onenote Mar 2012 #7
Thank you. Scuba Mar 2012 #12
Classic line of bs: "Oh, it's just housekeeping. Not to worry. Nothing to see here." ~nt 99th_Monkey Mar 2012 #35
Debunked a bunch of times already onenote Mar 2012 #6
Threads like this make the case for the return of unrec....nt SidDithers Mar 2012 #9
Exactly. There are also 3 variations of this post on DU at the moment. FSogol Mar 2012 #17
see reply 19 n/t unionworks Mar 2012 #22
3? More like 8 or 9. randome Mar 2012 #39
Yup, "Outrages" attempting to split the left just keep going, and going, and going.... FSogol Mar 2012 #42
I note that the article at the link does not discuss MineralMan Mar 2012 #10
see reply 19 n/t unionworks Mar 2012 #24
Only a few Republicans opposed it -- no Democrats. Courtesy Flush Mar 2012 #11
Why wouldn't Obama sign it? Does he hate the Vice President? onenote Mar 2012 #13
The Bill is already law 99th_Monkey Mar 2012 #15
Oh come on ... you are just being hysterical and paranoid 99th_Monkey Mar 2012 #14
never get a blueddog unionworks Mar 2012 #23
Suspiciously timed? onenote Mar 2012 #27
Thanks for the information. This is helpful to know. 99th_Monkey Mar 2012 #29
For the 99th time: the only intent of this bill is to extend existing law to the WH and VP residence onenote Mar 2012 #31
The fact that we were already screwed 10 times over, before this bill added even more repressive 99th_Monkey Mar 2012 #33
so you are opposed to making it unlawful to enter the WH and VP's residence without authorization onenote Mar 2012 #34
Ring!! Ring!!! This pretty much sums up my concerns. 99th_Monkey Mar 2012 #36
FAIL onenote Mar 2012 #37
Your utter lack of concern about HR 347 is duly noted 99th_Monkey Mar 2012 #38
And your lack of interest in the facts and fact-based arguments is also duly noted onenote Mar 2012 #40
BULLSHIT unionworks Mar 2012 #19
This bill restates existing law in that regard. onenote Mar 2012 #26
gonna break my plastic scooper unionworks Mar 2012 #28
So you have no response to the fact that this is what the law has been for years onenote Mar 2012 #30
you sure got that right unionworks Mar 2012 #32
K&R Sounds like those in congress are passing unconstitutional bills? midnight Mar 2012 #25
There's a new assault on us every day. nt woo me with science Mar 2012 #41
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