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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
146. That. Sucks.
Fri Oct 11, 2013, 01:18 PM
Oct 2013

I'm just curious: what part of the country are you from?

Although, as bad as your experience is, electronic ID heists from private companies have netted many thousands of stolen identities at a time.

Pretty standard to ask for a photocopy of ID. Barack_America Oct 2013 #1
A perfectly legitimate concern 1000words Oct 2013 #2
Legitimate concern but most any insurance asks for all this info except for birth cert. kelliekat44 Oct 2013 #33
Passport is a good idea 1000words Oct 2013 #40
You don't have to be a US citizen Boudica the Lyoness Oct 2013 #67
no it's not Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #163
I hope you don't ever have to move then pnwmom Oct 2013 #3
i think the concern is with sending it to them. ejpoeta Oct 2013 #81
I had to send in my birth certificate when I applied for Social Security. I was scared I wouldn't CTyankee Oct 2013 #83
I don't have a problem giving government or their contractors that info, they already have it Hoyt Oct 2013 #4
When you give that info to your employer or Doctor's office you can hold them accountable IF diabeticman Oct 2013 #13
No. You can't. Jakes Progress Oct 2013 #132
When you see a doctor they'll xerox your drivers license, take your SS# flamingdem Oct 2013 #5
BUT you can hold the doctor's office or employer responsible IF your idenity is stolen from their diabeticman Oct 2013 #8
Think of her % chance of Identity Theft with millions signing up flamingdem Oct 2013 #11
You wouldn't believe some of the cases she has heard in her duty of Federal Grand Jury. If has diabeticman Oct 2013 #14
Rule of thumb: If you call them, it's generally safe. moriah Oct 2013 #19
your most sensitive information is firewalled in the government Shivering Jemmy Oct 2013 #24
Oh christ, the government owns your records already. phleshdef Oct 2013 #29
going by your logic she shouldn't have to verify her idenity. diabeticman Oct 2013 #35
Um no, my logic draws nowhere near that conclusion. phleshdef Oct 2013 #38
I believe the OP's concern is Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #75
so does she pay for anything by check or credit card? much more likely to get ellenfl Oct 2013 #82
Ah, yes, the NSA. That bastion of thorough employee screening. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #86
i'm just saying that if you think you have privacy, you have another think coming. ellenfl Oct 2013 #128
what are you smoking? That ID would PROVE that you are who you say you are Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #164
+1 LOL B Calm Oct 2013 #77
Sounds to me like the rep was trying to REGISTER her for a plan rather than Drew Richards Oct 2013 #6
Anywhere you get insurance you will be requried to provide proof of identity, Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #7
Again --as a I said above--You go to the hospital someone steals your info and uses it you can diabeticman Oct 2013 #16
Unlikely. They'll always blame someone else. Barack_America Oct 2013 #28
how do you prove where the info was stolen from? Mosby Oct 2013 #30
It is not BS to be paranoid about indenity thief in this day and age. diabeticman Oct 2013 #37
It is if you take it to the point of denying yourself healthcare coverage. Nt Barack_America Oct 2013 #43
well you convience my wife. She is the type of person who doesn't sign up for store cards. diabeticman Oct 2013 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Barack_America Oct 2013 #45
At some point if she wants the help she is going to have to give some information Marrah_G Oct 2013 #98
Or the place where you work, the school where you send your children, the DMV. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #32
For passportxs you send original docs,not copies elehhhhna Oct 2013 #154
When is the last time you filed forms for coverage? MrMickeysMom Oct 2013 #9
BUT when my wife gives that info to the employer they can be held accountable for someone diabeticman Oct 2013 #18
The rationality behind this doesn't make sense drexelkathy Oct 2013 #104
I'm really not trying to sound mean here... but it's the government. moriah Oct 2013 #10
Edward Snowden! How about a few years back when laptops got stolen by military contractor that diabeticman Oct 2013 #21
And in the last year I've gotten notices my data's been compromised 3 times moriah Oct 2013 #25
statistical blip Shivering Jemmy Oct 2013 #27
Yeah, whatever you do, Mr.Bill Oct 2013 #12
I'm a property manager Sedona Oct 2013 #15
But Sedona IF you or a employee stoled that info about your tenants would YOU not be held diabeticman Oct 2013 #26
I am a licensed real estate agent in two states Sedona Oct 2013 #42
My wife isn't that trusting. After a year of Federal Grand jury and the two slum lords we have had diabeticman Oct 2013 #48
Well, then enjoy your penalties, higher premiums, increased healthcare costs and shorter lifespan Sedona Oct 2013 #55
I knpw you aren't a slumlord but you know our history. and don't talk like we are repugs she is diabeticman Oct 2013 #61
That is easily prevented by putting a "freeze' on your credit. Sedona Oct 2013 #63
Pretty much this. If you're worried about, freeze your credit. Chathamization Oct 2013 #178
Performance Art alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #17
undoubtedly Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #64
whatever. Legitimate concern is either from drama queens or trolls right?! diabeticman Oct 2013 #66
OK, there, O'Keefe alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #72
Yeah, that was funny! sammytko Oct 2013 #92
So I'm not the only one with suspicions. Barack_America Oct 2013 #93
You could have gone with "White people problems", "Thank you for your concern", or "where's my pony" hughee99 Oct 2013 #134
Oh, I don't merely dismiss the OP's "concerns" alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #136
LOL! I'm with you! backscatter712 Oct 2013 #170
+1 tallahasseedem Oct 2013 #150
Yep! n/t backscatter712 Oct 2013 #168
The government is as suspicious of you as you are of them frazzled Oct 2013 #20
This is in no way an ACA problem. TroglodyteScholar Oct 2013 #22
I'm glad that they are taking precautions to prevent fraud. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #23
You really have to do all that? I don't even have a copy of my birth certificate, and I haven't liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #31
Do you have a driver's license? Can you photocopy that? moriah Oct 2013 #34
Then there needs to be help available for people to get their documentation. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #39
March 31st isn't long enough? moriah Oct 2013 #41
more like 4 months in order to make sure your coverage kicks in in time to avoid a fine. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #47
I've never said there weren't problems. moriah Oct 2013 #89
That's ironic because everything you mentioned was issued to her or created by the government Lint Head Oct 2013 #36
Yep. I'm not buying it. But I've offered him a list of places to apply in person. DevonRex Oct 2013 #50
OK. I can get you a place to apply IN PERSON. Will that help? 38 places in PA alone. DevonRex Oct 2013 #46
Hey my wife has no facebook account. She doesn't sign up for store cars and she is very concern diabeticman Oct 2013 #56
OK. DevonRex Oct 2013 #58
The Government has all this information on file in various departments. THEY R verifying U R U. nt Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #49
Umm.. i dont recall one single private insurance i ever had that didnt ask for my ID. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #51
What they asked for are all government-created documents bhikkhu Oct 2013 #52
I was frustrated by the website, so I called the toll free #, and the rep. took my application. Denninmi Oct 2013 #53
Plain stupidity, those types of information are standard for any health insurance. DrewFlorida Oct 2013 #54
My wife is a liberal! You want to call us trolls that's fine but we know we are not! and my wife's diabeticman Oct 2013 #62
like getting stabbed by a unicorn. The fear is real but impractical and not based in reality TeamPooka Oct 2013 #70
How did you know I'm afraid of unicorns? mahina Oct 2013 #124
:) TeamPooka Oct 2013 #126
With all due respect, don't you think you're being a little melodramatic? PragmaticLiberal Oct 2013 #110
i came to that conclusion long ago TeamPooka Oct 2013 #125
Though I understand the concern CC Oct 2013 #57
You really have to put things in perspective ecstatic Oct 2013 #59
Apply for ACA Exchanges IN PERSON at HRSA Clinics. Link:... Tx4obama Oct 2013 #60
The fine ratchets up real quick taught_me_patience Oct 2013 #65
Anyone who has ever filled out and application for Medicaid, or other welfare program has to jwirr Oct 2013 #68
about info MFM008 Oct 2013 #69
Then just pay the fine. It's your choice. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #71
Either not all GeorgeGist Oct 2013 #73
Have you ever applied for private health insurance before? Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2013 #74
You need to provide your financials, specifics, your personal data Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #76
cool story, bro! scheming daemons Oct 2013 #78
paranoia. ...you have the similar requirements beachbum bob Oct 2013 #79
I apologize MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #80
Really? Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #91
To private companies? MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #94
The OP does not appear to be talking about private companies Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #97
I expect that the OP has no problem providing those things on their tax forms MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #101
Yeah, how would someone know a letter addressed to the IRS would have sensitive information. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2013 #130
I believe that it's in posession of the US government once MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #139
Because mailboxes are bastions of security jeff47 Oct 2013 #140
Um, not *those* mailboxes MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #141
We had to stop using the big blue one on the corner jeff47 Oct 2013 #144
That. Sucks. MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #146
At that time, a suburb of Los Angeles. jeff47 Oct 2013 #152
No ID required to vote for it, why Id required to join it ? NM_Birder Oct 2013 #99
Because you are buying insurance Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #102
another one................ NM_Birder Oct 2013 #105
Why can't you join? Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #108
I can, if I wanted .......... NM_Birder Oct 2013 #115
While I understand her concern left is right Oct 2013 #84
Are you planning to forego Medicare and Social Security when you get to enough Oct 2013 #85
You don't even have to have a computer for ID theft. Zen Democrat Oct 2013 #87
Indian outsourcers see business booming as Obamacare kicks in antigop Oct 2013 #88
Don't apply for a mortgage loan then. nt Lex Oct 2013 #90
No ID required to vote. Why ID required for the ACA ? NM_Birder Oct 2013 #95
Means-tested public benefits all require proof of identity and income. moriah Oct 2013 #100
"Voting doesn't cost a penny"....the people who voted NM_Birder Oct 2013 #103
And what does it take to get a copy of an ID by March 31st? moriah Oct 2013 #107
No ID no ACA acceptance. Your voter reg card means squat in the ACA. NM_Birder Oct 2013 #116
Really? Look at the OP, sweetheart. moriah Oct 2013 #118
I'm not your sweetheart, you are wrong and kind of an ass about it. NM_Birder Oct 2013 #123
Please show me where I'm wrong, then. I'm basing this off of what the OP said. moriah Oct 2013 #135
a Democratic Underground OP be wrong... NO WAY ! NM_Birder Oct 2013 #137
Read my edit, please. moriah Oct 2013 #138
Your ACA card WILL suffice as a voter ID card.. NM_Birder Oct 2013 #142
... and still, no sourcing for your information RE: what is acceptable documentation to register. moriah Oct 2013 #147
Read my post below. NM_Birder Oct 2013 #145
The elderly are covered by Medicare, no ACA involved at all. To get that Medicare one has Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #109
Who says no ID to vote? Not the case here in Georgia. RebelOne Oct 2013 #143
Perhaps there is a place you could go in person to help you sign up Marrah_G Oct 2013 #96
People can find places to sign up in person by using this clickable map: PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #121
Um, the Federal Gov already has her SSN, and the state has her SSN and driver's license magical thyme Oct 2013 #106
Um, but not the employee on the other end of the line, possibly a prison inmate or foreign employee. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #114
the employee at the other end of what line? magical thyme Oct 2013 #153
The first words in the OP: "My wife called the ACA verification LINE ..." (emphasis added) AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #157
Oh, the phone line. Again, the identity horse left the barn long ago. magical thyme Oct 2013 #159
Saying that there have been identity thefts in the past should not comfort anyone, nor should AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #160
everybody knows there have been identity thefts in the past magical thyme Oct 2013 #161
The fact that "everybody knows ... " means we should learn from our experiences, not ignore them. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #166
that doesn't mean you stop living to keep from having your identity stolen. magical thyme Oct 2013 #167
Of course not. Who, other than you, said that it did? AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #169
the OP is about someone who refuses to sign up for ACA because of concerns about ID theft magical thyme Oct 2013 #171
Obviously. It also should be obvious that it is a false equivalency to equate "stop living" with AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #173
hardly. I gave many examples of day to day living that require giving up your SSN. magical thyme Oct 2013 #174
Your examples are beside the point. Not relevant at all. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #175
I give the OP low marks for inconsistent style and characterization. Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #111
Who is receiving this information? Prison inmates hired by private companies. Employees in foreign AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #112
Insurance co's have always asked for this info fitman Oct 2013 #113
Shoot, when I signed up for SS they knew everything about me. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2013 #117
Your wife's I 9 documentation is exactly like the ACA requirements displacedtexan Oct 2013 #119
Apply for ACA Exchanges IN PERSON at HRSA Clinics. ProSense Oct 2013 #120
Like an employee at any insurance company couldn't do the same. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #122
I see her point. I would not put those docs in the mail either. Myrina Oct 2013 #127
They wont do it in person either. Folks upthread have given the info how to do it in person. stevenleser Oct 2013 #177
You are very naive. Jakes Progress Oct 2013 #129
Good luck getting private insurance without having to give out that information. Downtown Hound Oct 2013 #131
If I read this correctly, they didn't ask for much more than a credit check. chelsea0011 Oct 2013 #133
I have applied for insurance on the private market before. Laelth Oct 2013 #148
I know, right? penultimate Oct 2013 #158
your wife blueknight Oct 2013 #149
Just pay the fine Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #151
dman, with all due respect, elehhhhna Oct 2013 #155
Nearly anything you do that requires you to be identified needs something like an drivers license/ID penultimate Oct 2013 #156
are you serious? You've probably given 10 times that info to big corporations Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #162
never applied for a loan? the bank will ask for all of that as well as your assets and credit score arely staircase Oct 2013 #165
I have to give a copy of my DL and SS card when I am hired. They only want one. NBD Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2013 #172
People give a whole lot of info every day to insurance companies, medical offices, banks, lawyers, blm Oct 2013 #176
If you have kids in a school system whistler162 Oct 2013 #179
She probably has to prove she's a citizen gollygee Oct 2013 #180
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