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diabeticman

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13. When you give that info to your employer or Doctor's office you can hold them accountable IF

Fri Oct 11, 2013, 12:04 AM

Oct 2013

that info is stolen and used by someone but no she feels completely uncomfortable giving that info to something she can't say is accountable.

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My wife called the ACA verification line and after speaking to a rep she will not be proceeding any [View all] diabeticman Oct 2013 OP

Pretty standard to ask for a photocopy of ID. Barack_America Oct 2013 #1

A perfectly legitimate concern 1000words Oct 2013 #2

Legitimate concern but most any insurance asks for all this info except for birth cert. kelliekat44 Oct 2013 #33

Passport is a good idea 1000words Oct 2013 #40

You don't have to be a US citizen Boudica the Lyoness Oct 2013 #67

no it's not Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #163

I hope you don't ever have to move then pnwmom Oct 2013 #3

i think the concern is with sending it to them. ejpoeta Oct 2013 #81

I had to send in my birth certificate when I applied for Social Security. I was scared I wouldn't CTyankee Oct 2013 #83

I don't have a problem giving government or their contractors that info, they already have it Hoyt Oct 2013 #4

When you give that info to your employer or Doctor's office you can hold them accountable IF diabeticman Oct 2013 #13

No. You can't. Jakes Progress Oct 2013 #132

When you see a doctor they'll xerox your drivers license, take your SS# flamingdem Oct 2013 #5

BUT you can hold the doctor's office or employer responsible IF your idenity is stolen from their diabeticman Oct 2013 #8

Think of her % chance of Identity Theft with millions signing up flamingdem Oct 2013 #11

You wouldn't believe some of the cases she has heard in her duty of Federal Grand Jury. If has diabeticman Oct 2013 #14

Rule of thumb: If you call them, it's generally safe. moriah Oct 2013 #19

your most sensitive information is firewalled in the government Shivering Jemmy Oct 2013 #24

Oh christ, the government owns your records already. phleshdef Oct 2013 #29

going by your logic she shouldn't have to verify her idenity. diabeticman Oct 2013 #35

Um no, my logic draws nowhere near that conclusion. phleshdef Oct 2013 #38

I believe the OP's concern is Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #75

so does she pay for anything by check or credit card? much more likely to get ellenfl Oct 2013 #82

Ah, yes, the NSA. That bastion of thorough employee screening. Nuclear Unicorn Oct 2013 #86

i'm just saying that if you think you have privacy, you have another think coming. ellenfl Oct 2013 #128

what are you smoking? That ID would PROVE that you are who you say you are Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #164

+1 LOL B Calm Oct 2013 #77

Sounds to me like the rep was trying to REGISTER her for a plan rather than Drew Richards Oct 2013 #6

Anywhere you get insurance you will be requried to provide proof of identity, Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #7

Again --as a I said above--You go to the hospital someone steals your info and uses it you can diabeticman Oct 2013 #16

Unlikely. They'll always blame someone else. Barack_America Oct 2013 #28

how do you prove where the info was stolen from? Mosby Oct 2013 #30

It is not BS to be paranoid about indenity thief in this day and age. diabeticman Oct 2013 #37

It is if you take it to the point of denying yourself healthcare coverage. Nt Barack_America Oct 2013 #43

well you convience my wife. She is the type of person who doesn't sign up for store cards. diabeticman Oct 2013 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Barack_America Oct 2013 #45

At some point if she wants the help she is going to have to give some information Marrah_G Oct 2013 #98

Or the place where you work, the school where you send your children, the DMV. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #32

For passportxs you send original docs,not copies elehhhhna Oct 2013 #154

When is the last time you filed forms for coverage? MrMickeysMom Oct 2013 #9

BUT when my wife gives that info to the employer they can be held accountable for someone diabeticman Oct 2013 #18

The rationality behind this doesn't make sense drexelkathy Oct 2013 #104

I'm really not trying to sound mean here... but it's the government. moriah Oct 2013 #10

Edward Snowden! How about a few years back when laptops got stolen by military contractor that diabeticman Oct 2013 #21

And in the last year I've gotten notices my data's been compromised 3 times moriah Oct 2013 #25

statistical blip Shivering Jemmy Oct 2013 #27

Yeah, whatever you do, Mr.Bill Oct 2013 #12

I'm a property manager Sedona Oct 2013 #15

But Sedona IF you or a employee stoled that info about your tenants would YOU not be held diabeticman Oct 2013 #26

I am a licensed real estate agent in two states Sedona Oct 2013 #42

My wife isn't that trusting. After a year of Federal Grand jury and the two slum lords we have had diabeticman Oct 2013 #48

Well, then enjoy your penalties, higher premiums, increased healthcare costs and shorter lifespan Sedona Oct 2013 #55

I knpw you aren't a slumlord but you know our history. and don't talk like we are repugs she is diabeticman Oct 2013 #61

That is easily prevented by putting a "freeze' on your credit. Sedona Oct 2013 #63

Pretty much this. If you're worried about, freeze your credit. Chathamization Oct 2013 #178

Performance Art alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #17

undoubtedly Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #64

whatever. Legitimate concern is either from drama queens or trolls right?! diabeticman Oct 2013 #66

OK, there, O'Keefe alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #72

Yeah, that was funny! sammytko Oct 2013 #92

So I'm not the only one with suspicions. Barack_America Oct 2013 #93

You could have gone with "White people problems", "Thank you for your concern", or "where's my pony" hughee99 Oct 2013 #134

Oh, I don't merely dismiss the OP's "concerns" alcibiades_mystery Oct 2013 #136

LOL! I'm with you! backscatter712 Oct 2013 #170

+1 tallahasseedem Oct 2013 #150

Yep! n/t backscatter712 Oct 2013 #168

The government is as suspicious of you as you are of them frazzled Oct 2013 #20

This is in no way an ACA problem. TroglodyteScholar Oct 2013 #22

I'm glad that they are taking precautions to prevent fraud. NYC_SKP Oct 2013 #23

You really have to do all that? I don't even have a copy of my birth certificate, and I haven't liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #31

Do you have a driver's license? Can you photocopy that? moriah Oct 2013 #34

Then there needs to be help available for people to get their documentation. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #39

March 31st isn't long enough? moriah Oct 2013 #41

more like 4 months in order to make sure your coverage kicks in in time to avoid a fine. liberal_at_heart Oct 2013 #47

I've never said there weren't problems. moriah Oct 2013 #89

That's ironic because everything you mentioned was issued to her or created by the government Lint Head Oct 2013 #36

Yep. I'm not buying it. But I've offered him a list of places to apply in person. DevonRex Oct 2013 #50

OK. I can get you a place to apply IN PERSON. Will that help? 38 places in PA alone. DevonRex Oct 2013 #46

Hey my wife has no facebook account. She doesn't sign up for store cars and she is very concern diabeticman Oct 2013 #56

OK. DevonRex Oct 2013 #58

The Government has all this information on file in various departments. THEY R verifying U R U. nt Tigress DEM Oct 2013 #49

Umm.. i dont recall one single private insurance i ever had that didnt ask for my ID. darkangel218 Oct 2013 #51

What they asked for are all government-created documents bhikkhu Oct 2013 #52

I was frustrated by the website, so I called the toll free #, and the rep. took my application. Denninmi Oct 2013 #53

Plain stupidity, those types of information are standard for any health insurance. DrewFlorida Oct 2013 #54

My wife is a liberal! You want to call us trolls that's fine but we know we are not! and my wife's diabeticman Oct 2013 #62

like getting stabbed by a unicorn. The fear is real but impractical and not based in reality TeamPooka Oct 2013 #70

How did you know I'm afraid of unicorns? mahina Oct 2013 #124

:) TeamPooka Oct 2013 #126

With all due respect, don't you think you're being a little melodramatic? PragmaticLiberal Oct 2013 #110

i came to that conclusion long ago TeamPooka Oct 2013 #125

Though I understand the concern CC Oct 2013 #57

You really have to put things in perspective ecstatic Oct 2013 #59

Apply for ACA Exchanges IN PERSON at HRSA Clinics. Link:... Tx4obama Oct 2013 #60

The fine ratchets up real quick taught_me_patience Oct 2013 #65

Anyone who has ever filled out and application for Medicaid, or other welfare program has to jwirr Oct 2013 #68

about info MFM008 Oct 2013 #69

Then just pay the fine. It's your choice. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #71

Either not all GeorgeGist Oct 2013 #73

Have you ever applied for private health insurance before? Jeff In Milwaukee Oct 2013 #74

You need to provide your financials, specifics, your personal data Puzzledtraveller Oct 2013 #76

cool story, bro! scheming daemons Oct 2013 #78

paranoia. ...you have the similar requirements beachbum bob Oct 2013 #79

I apologize MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #80

Really? Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #91

To private companies? MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #94

The OP does not appear to be talking about private companies Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #97

I expect that the OP has no problem providing those things on their tax forms MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #101

Yeah, how would someone know a letter addressed to the IRS would have sensitive information. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2013 #130

I believe that it's in posession of the US government once MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #139

Because mailboxes are bastions of security jeff47 Oct 2013 #140

Um, not *those* mailboxes MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #141

We had to stop using the big blue one on the corner jeff47 Oct 2013 #144

That. Sucks. MannyGoldstein Oct 2013 #146

At that time, a suburb of Los Angeles. jeff47 Oct 2013 #152

No ID required to vote for it, why Id required to join it ? NM_Birder Oct 2013 #99

Because you are buying insurance Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #102

another one................ NM_Birder Oct 2013 #105

Why can't you join? Ohio Joe Oct 2013 #108

I can, if I wanted .......... NM_Birder Oct 2013 #115

While I understand her concern left is right Oct 2013 #84

Are you planning to forego Medicare and Social Security when you get to enough Oct 2013 #85

You don't even have to have a computer for ID theft. Zen Democrat Oct 2013 #87

Indian outsourcers see business booming as Obamacare kicks in antigop Oct 2013 #88

Don't apply for a mortgage loan then. nt Lex Oct 2013 #90

No ID required to vote. Why ID required for the ACA ? NM_Birder Oct 2013 #95

Means-tested public benefits all require proof of identity and income. moriah Oct 2013 #100

"Voting doesn't cost a penny"....the people who voted NM_Birder Oct 2013 #103

And what does it take to get a copy of an ID by March 31st? moriah Oct 2013 #107

No ID no ACA acceptance. Your voter reg card means squat in the ACA. NM_Birder Oct 2013 #116

Really? Look at the OP, sweetheart. moriah Oct 2013 #118

I'm not your sweetheart, you are wrong and kind of an ass about it. NM_Birder Oct 2013 #123

Please show me where I'm wrong, then. I'm basing this off of what the OP said. moriah Oct 2013 #135

a Democratic Underground OP be wrong... NO WAY ! NM_Birder Oct 2013 #137

Read my edit, please. moriah Oct 2013 #138

Your ACA card WILL suffice as a voter ID card.. NM_Birder Oct 2013 #142

... and still, no sourcing for your information RE: what is acceptable documentation to register. moriah Oct 2013 #147

Read my post below. NM_Birder Oct 2013 #145

The elderly are covered by Medicare, no ACA involved at all. To get that Medicare one has Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #109

Who says no ID to vote? Not the case here in Georgia. RebelOne Oct 2013 #143

Perhaps there is a place you could go in person to help you sign up Marrah_G Oct 2013 #96

People can find places to sign up in person by using this clickable map: PoliticAverse Oct 2013 #121

Um, the Federal Gov already has her SSN, and the state has her SSN and driver's license magical thyme Oct 2013 #106

Um, but not the employee on the other end of the line, possibly a prison inmate or foreign employee. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #114

the employee at the other end of what line? magical thyme Oct 2013 #153

The first words in the OP: "My wife called the ACA verification LINE ..." (emphasis added) AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #157

Oh, the phone line. Again, the identity horse left the barn long ago. magical thyme Oct 2013 #159

Saying that there have been identity thefts in the past should not comfort anyone, nor should AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #160

everybody knows there have been identity thefts in the past magical thyme Oct 2013 #161

The fact that "everybody knows ... " means we should learn from our experiences, not ignore them. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #166

that doesn't mean you stop living to keep from having your identity stolen. magical thyme Oct 2013 #167

Of course not. Who, other than you, said that it did? AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #169

the OP is about someone who refuses to sign up for ACA because of concerns about ID theft magical thyme Oct 2013 #171

Obviously. It also should be obvious that it is a false equivalency to equate "stop living" with AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #173

hardly. I gave many examples of day to day living that require giving up your SSN. magical thyme Oct 2013 #174

Your examples are beside the point. Not relevant at all. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #175

I give the OP low marks for inconsistent style and characterization. Bluenorthwest Oct 2013 #111

Who is receiving this information? Prison inmates hired by private companies. Employees in foreign AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #112

Insurance co's have always asked for this info fitman Oct 2013 #113

Shoot, when I signed up for SS they knew everything about me. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2013 #117

Your wife's I 9 documentation is exactly like the ACA requirements displacedtexan Oct 2013 #119

Apply for ACA Exchanges IN PERSON at HRSA Clinics. ProSense Oct 2013 #120

Like an employee at any insurance company couldn't do the same. Ikonoklast Oct 2013 #122

I see her point. I would not put those docs in the mail either. Myrina Oct 2013 #127

They wont do it in person either. Folks upthread have given the info how to do it in person. stevenleser Oct 2013 #177

You are very naive. Jakes Progress Oct 2013 #129

Good luck getting private insurance without having to give out that information. Downtown Hound Oct 2013 #131

If I read this correctly, they didn't ask for much more than a credit check. chelsea0011 Oct 2013 #133

I have applied for insurance on the private market before. Laelth Oct 2013 #148

I know, right? penultimate Oct 2013 #158

your wife blueknight Oct 2013 #149

Just pay the fine Capt. Obvious Oct 2013 #151

dman, with all due respect, elehhhhna Oct 2013 #155

Nearly anything you do that requires you to be identified needs something like an drivers license/ID penultimate Oct 2013 #156

are you serious? You've probably given 10 times that info to big corporations Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #162

never applied for a loan? the bank will ask for all of that as well as your assets and credit score arely staircase Oct 2013 #165

I have to give a copy of my DL and SS card when I am hired. They only want one. NBD Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2013 #172

People give a whole lot of info every day to insurance companies, medical offices, banks, lawyers, blm Oct 2013 #176

If you have kids in a school system whistler162 Oct 2013 #179

She probably has to prove she's a citizen gollygee Oct 2013 #180