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115. This happened because Obama is scared and we don't have prayer in school anymore.
Fri Oct 4, 2013, 12:51 PM
Oct 2013

According to youtube comments.

cops are exercising their god given right to shoot and kill anyone they please srican69 Oct 2013 #1
What a well thought out and reasoned response el_bryanto Oct 2013 #7
This ^^^ COLGATE4 Oct 2013 #66
I worked for 6 years in the mental health ward of a jail. SoLeftIAmRight Oct 2013 #155
+1 000 000 000 kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #166
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service joeglow3 Oct 2013 #10
Damn, I thought that this would be about the snarky response to it. Hayabusa Oct 2013 #152
* Who acts like a terrorist by trying to barrel through White House Security in a car. (nt) IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #24
A crazy terrorist? MoonRiver Oct 2013 #44
I am not sure which one scares me the most - the "crazy" ones, or the "sane" ones. IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #49
I see. MoonRiver Oct 2013 #57
If only we had psychic police who could know all of that! IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #62
Yeah, don't know if I trust my police to be psychic! MoonRiver Oct 2013 #71
+1! TheDebbieDee Oct 2013 #161
Couldn't they have used strong tranquilizer darts? thecrow Oct 2013 #81
They didn't know what they were dealing with. MoonRiver Oct 2013 #85
Well, you were wrong, weren't you? But that lady is still dead. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #180
The police use of lethal force here demands an exhaustive investigation. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2013 #183
I agree matt819 Oct 2013 #189
I was wrong, but I could have been right. MoonRiver Oct 2013 #188
No, those would kill tons of people jeff47 Oct 2013 #95
I agree ann--- Oct 2013 #139
I seriously doubt they were looking in the back seat. dgibby Oct 2013 #162
Tranquilizer darts will not stop a person immediately, dgibby Oct 2013 #149
The drug used in tranquilizer darts for larger wild animals is EXTREMELY dangerous in humans. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #167
Well, obviously I would want them to use something less than lethal thecrow Oct 2013 #175
Name the magical "something", please. kestrel91316 Oct 2013 #187
We're not talking about taking down "large wild animals" thecrow Oct 2013 #194
So you want tanq dart that will penetrate a car body? GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #173
I had to rattle my head at that too. A dart that will pierce through a car and be non-lethal. alphafemale Oct 2013 #179
Yep. Something was going to happen. treestar Oct 2013 #113
she has a long history of mental illness... it wasn't the head injury. n/t progressivebydesign Oct 2013 #143
she had mental health care... progressivebydesign Oct 2013 #141
If you were referring to the Navy Yard shooting, it was not a terrorist attack. KamaAina Oct 2013 #125
people who fly planes into buildings? Peacetrain Oct 2013 #96
That would be one good example! IdaBriggs Oct 2013 #112
Umm okay. progressivebydesign Oct 2013 #138
you have seconds to act decisively Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #2
Exactly right newfie11 Oct 2013 #29
She had already hit a guard with her car. He is lucky to be alive. appleannie1 Oct 2013 #140
But remember that people killed by a car oneshooter Oct 2013 #169
They should have shot out her tires instead of killing the poor woman. avaistheone1 Oct 2013 #86
See post 76 nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #87
oh please. That's TV BS. a car still drives on rims. progressivebydesign Oct 2013 #145
that doesn't stop a car Niceguy1 Oct 2013 #171
Agreed hamsterjill Oct 2013 #88
When all you have is seconds... that's when training is supposed to kick in. apnu Oct 2013 #97
Anywhere else but the White House gates... Orsino Oct 2013 #128
Wrong place to expect the benefit of the doubt BeyondGeography Oct 2013 #3
I wonder how shooting out tires works in real life as opposed to action movies. randome Oct 2013 #4
Shooting almost anything in real life is problematic jberryhill Oct 2013 #9
All they had were bodies the first time. And she basically plowed through one officer. randome Oct 2013 #14
They had vehicles in the CNN video jberryhill Oct 2013 #19
Wherever it was that the six officers surrounded the car and pointed guns at her. randome Oct 2013 #25
shooting almost anything MOVING in real life is even more problematic. KittyWampus Oct 2013 #100
it does not work well especially with a handgun, a long gun is better loli phabay Oct 2013 #32
We need ACA to help deal with the mentally ill in this country. sinkingfeeling Oct 2013 #5
I wonder with all the defense barriers in place mikeysnot Oct 2013 #6
Shooting a bomber is not a good idea either jberryhill Oct 2013 #8
What would you do in that situation? nt CJCRANE Oct 2013 #13
I would construct the bomb to go off if I was killed jberryhill Oct 2013 #16
If you were a police officer in that situation? CJCRANE Oct 2013 #17
Oh, I wouldn't be a police officer in that situation jberryhill Oct 2013 #20
How would you hold a switch and drive at the same time? nt CJCRANE Oct 2013 #23
pretend it is a cell phone (nt) The Straight Story Oct 2013 #26
Yes, that's possible but evasive driving holding a cell phone is unlikely CJCRANE Oct 2013 #35
Use a steering wheel spinner knob. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #177
If you can drive at 80mph with one hand on the wheel while evading the cops CJCRANE Oct 2013 #182
Likely, it would go off prematurely. But those spinners do add much to a driver's ability to turn. GreenStormCloud Oct 2013 #184
True. I can imagine they would be useful during normal driving conditions. nt CJCRANE Oct 2013 #186
If I don't push the button every 45 seconds it goes off jberryhill Oct 2013 #31
So the cops should've just let the car reach it's presumed target? nt CJCRANE Oct 2013 #38
She wasn't shot until the car was immobilized jberryhill Oct 2013 #106
Did you see the video? The car wasn't immobilized, it was driving away from the cops AFAIK. CJCRANE Oct 2013 #109
That video wasn't where she was shot jberryhill Oct 2013 #114
I saw the one from yesterday where she drove behind some trees and we heard some gunshots. CJCRANE Oct 2013 #116
Eventually, the motorcycles catch up and one guy breaks the windshield with his helmet jberryhill Oct 2013 #121
That was a different incident. Methinks you're just being contrarian for the sake of it. CJCRANE Oct 2013 #126
Yes, it is as relevant as jberryhill Oct 2013 #129
You could be right. CJCRANE Oct 2013 #135
Or you could simply read the story accompanying the video at CNN jberryhill Oct 2013 #163
Thanks for the info. The shots in the video were fired while the car was moving. CJCRANE Oct 2013 #165
Or better yet, hold the switch open with your right foot. RC Oct 2013 #68
your attention to detail is rather frightening... n/t progressivebydesign Oct 2013 #148
Of course if she had escaped again and driven into a group of pedestrians KinMd Oct 2013 #90
Absolutely! treestar Oct 2013 #117
Bingo! and if they hadn't done it and she killed the baby, they'd blame the cops nt progressivebydesign Oct 2013 #150
I think CJ's asking about a strategy in confronting a bomber hootinholler Oct 2013 #40
That's what I was thinking. If they thought she had the car rigged with LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #28
What would be the right thing t do? pintobean Oct 2013 #48
I just think they could have found a way to stop her without killing her. LuvNewcastle Oct 2013 #64
I am usually the first to criticize excessive use of force by police; however, in this case . . . markpkessinger Oct 2013 #178
They were doing their job. Which would be keep a bomb from getting to the target. Thor_MN Oct 2013 #83
hate to disagree with you, but the choice is to shoot the bomber even if there is a dead man switch loli phabay Oct 2013 #41
Jumping in front of bullet or on a grenade is a bad idea. Democat Oct 2013 #84
Dead man switches aren't frequently used in real life jeff47 Oct 2013 #99
Ding ding ding ! you are so right JB. nt Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2013 #104
It's very sad that she was killed. Sissyk Oct 2013 #11
It wasn't a case of each officer thinking individually frazzled Oct 2013 #12
Kind of feel the same way about someone breaking into a home The Straight Story Oct 2013 #15
Interesting to see this discussion of armed self-defense. nt Eleanors38 Oct 2013 #70
Very sad, but they didn't have much of a choice knowing what they did. nt geek tragedy Oct 2013 #18
I feel like it was justified Courtesy Flush Oct 2013 #21
Something bugs me about this whole entire thing. wercal Oct 2013 #22
"Is it possible this woman took a wrong turn, and completed freaked out when the police swarmed her" WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #27
That's a distinct possibility hootinholler Oct 2013 #46
I know somebody who went into diabetic shock and rammed some cars on the highway. wercal Oct 2013 #51
Completely Possible RobinA Oct 2013 #127
That's what I was thinking yesterday jberryhill Oct 2013 #132
She did not take a wrong turn. She attempted to get through a White House gate mnhtnbb Oct 2013 #43
Question wercal Oct 2013 #47
Of course there are cameras Marrah_G Oct 2013 #69
There is video on the web of her ramming the barriers kmlisle Oct 2013 #118
That is not the initial event wercal Oct 2013 #122
She was obsessed and thought Obama was stalking her.. progressivebydesign Oct 2013 #153
How do you know that wercal Oct 2013 #164
I don't care if she was scared or not TorchTheWitch Oct 2013 #190
Should I put you down for a no? wercal Oct 2013 #191
She believed she could communicate with Obama. Her head wasn't in reality. She was unmedicated. MADem Oct 2013 #147
I'm trying to imagine someone clocking 80 mph on those streets. winter is coming Oct 2013 #156
Would she take her baby with her? Tree-Hugger Oct 2013 #73
She may have thought she was protecting the baby wercal Oct 2013 #79
She may have thought that... Tree-Hugger Oct 2013 #82
I'm not suggesting that the cops weren't justified... wercal Oct 2013 #91
I see where you're coming from... Tree-Hugger Oct 2013 #107
Re: ". . . .would she really take her baby with her?" markpkessinger Oct 2013 #174
True wercal Oct 2013 #176
I think way too many cops.. sendero Oct 2013 #30
They had the car surrounded at one point with weapons pointed at her. mnhtnbb Oct 2013 #33
agree totally n2doc Oct 2013 #67
I side with law enforcement on this one. (nt) Paladin Oct 2013 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Downwinder Oct 2013 #36
what a ridiculous post. nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #39
i agree. exactly. nt seabeyond Oct 2013 #37
The person was a danger to the public. Raine1967 Oct 2013 #42
When they shot, the car was contained. Savannahmann Oct 2013 #52
When they first had the car surrounded on foot (before she fled) they did not shoot her. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #54
Exactly. Raine1967 Oct 2013 #60
They shot the car after she escaped from a first containment. Raine1967 Oct 2013 #55
I would have first assumed a dead man switch if I thought explosivies were onboard seveneyes Oct 2013 #45
I think the cops did what they thought was best in that situation. bigwillq Oct 2013 #50
I wish it had ended differently too. HappyMe Oct 2013 #53
Real easy to second-guess lapislzi Oct 2013 #56
+1 DinahMoeHum Oct 2013 #72
A bomber would have a method of exploding if shot. Coyotl Oct 2013 #58
Yes, because it's only by shooting that the bomb would go off. jeff47 Oct 2013 #102
It actually makes the actions of the police more heroic bottomofthehill Oct 2013 #151
As horrendously sad as it is, there in nothing else that could have been done. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2013 #59
There are actually times when the Police have to use deadly force. Vinnie From Indy Oct 2013 #61
The intersection where it started is confusing to begin with hootinholler Oct 2013 #63
Is/was there a better option? discntnt_irny_srcsm Oct 2013 #65
Shoot the tires...only one thing to this nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #74
? WilliamPitt Oct 2013 #76
None who knows anything about firearms nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #80
I would add that there are snipers atop the White House 24/7... Orsino Oct 2013 #144
Exactly nadinbrzezinski Oct 2013 #146
Yes, but do those snipers have riffles? n/t zappaman Oct 2013 #154
..... maddezmom Oct 2013 #158
There are written procedures. grantcart Oct 2013 #75
Sounds reasonable to me. Pretzel_Warrior Oct 2013 #77
No, they didn't have to shoot her. But this is the 'shoot first ask questions sabrina 1 Oct 2013 #78
"RIP to yet another victim of our culture of violence." EX500rider Oct 2013 #134
Okay, now I've got an image of mythology Oct 2013 #192
My first thought like a lot of other people dinger130 Oct 2013 #89
Because in the real world, that doesn't work. jeff47 Oct 2013 #105
it was a tragedy and another example of our fine mental healthcare system.... CarrieLynne Oct 2013 #92
To me heaven05 Oct 2013 #93
I thought the whole point of all this NSA dragnet spying was to protect us from car bombs Demeter Oct 2013 #94
The terrorists won, that's my thought. Most days I'm just numbed to this sad fact, Egalitarian Thug Oct 2013 #98
The details have me concerned.... Junkdrawer Oct 2013 #101
I think they were trying to save that baby Skittles Oct 2013 #103
The only thing that stops a bad girl in a car is a good guy with a gun. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #108
IF they had shot her in the car littlewolf Oct 2013 #110
Do you have a link for the statement that she was shot in the back? onenote Oct 2013 #130
no, I swear I saw it yesterday. went back and nada. littlewolf Oct 2013 #168
I always want to ask people who say these things treestar Oct 2013 #111
This happened because Obama is scared and we don't have prayer in school anymore. progressoid Oct 2013 #115
I heard it was marxist fundamentalists conspiring to impose muslamic atheism on everyone. CJCRANE Oct 2013 #119
If the driver were a middle eastern man, the media wouldn't be asking any questions Orrex Oct 2013 #120
The guy who invented the car bomb should be shot. Ms. Carey, not so much. leveymg Oct 2013 #123
There was a report last evening that the woman suffered No Vested Interest Oct 2013 #124
Another unmedicated individual with psychiatric issues. MADem Oct 2013 #131
On shooting out tires - basically it's dangerous and far from a sure thing DireStrike Oct 2013 #133
Also, a blowout of a tire on a car travelling at high speed can have very bad results onenote Oct 2013 #185
She got what she wanted. progressivebydesign Oct 2013 #136
Somehow I don't think "She GOT what she Wanted" warrant46 Oct 2013 #142
REally? Because the majority of these people want to Suicide By Cop. progressivebydesign Oct 2013 #157
I watched the video twice, the cops had remarkable restraint steve2470 Oct 2013 #137
The more I hear about her CC Oct 2013 #159
A car is hard to stop immediately krispos42 Oct 2013 #160
It was a rough situation all the way around. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #170
I applaud the cops. Hell they were not even being paid because of the shutdown. B Calm Oct 2013 #172
Agree with you, Will Hekate Oct 2013 #181
Agreed. There has been a lot of talk about "shooting out the tires" SomethingFishy Oct 2013 #193
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