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Cleita

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35. They are also paying into health care.

Sun Sep 29, 2013, 04:11 PM

Sep 2013

That money could be used instead for Medicare and complete coverage for them. it's the insurance companies that would lose out. Good riddance.

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If the ACA is delayed a year. Let's say in order for the government not to shut down [View all] Cleita Sep 2013 OP

Thats some pure awesome right there. bunnies Sep 2013 #1

I like it! nt Zorra Sep 2013 #2

Send that post to the president duffyduff Sep 2013 #3

The ACA is not going to be delayed for a year. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2013 #4

It's already been delayed FIVE YEARS Warpy Sep 2013 #55

Could for-profit health insurance companies go out of business within that year? MrsKirkley Sep 2013 #5

According to my link he does have the power. Cleita Sep 2013 #6

I posted previously suggesting signing a repeal bill in exchange for Medicare for all. Loudly Sep 2013 #22

It's actually a gray area, but if he does and no court of law Cleita Sep 2013 #23

For-profit insurance can continue as the supplemental Medi-gap business Loudly Sep 2013 #20

Then what happens when they put Medicare on hold, as hostage for the next budget frazzled Sep 2013 #7

They can't do those things unless they revoke the statutes that enable Cleita Sep 2013 #8

Seems to me you might be giving that side more credit for intellect than you need to. calimary Sep 2013 #13

Maybe, but things that affect the populace more directly like Cleita Sep 2013 #15

The law that enables Obamacare is already in force frazzled Sep 2013 #19

I agree with that. We are in perilous times where our Cleita Sep 2013 #21

Agreed 100%. Obama CANNOT cave on this BlueDemKev Sep 2013 #32

If they agree to delay it a year, I will be delayed forever. nt Snotcicles Sep 2013 #56

Yes they are - Cleita Iliyah Sep 2013 #27

The ACA is not going to be delayed for a year. Schema Thing Sep 2013 #9

And mint a couple trillion dollar coins to pay for it. GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #10

There isn't more money needed than will go into the ACA anyway. Cleita Sep 2013 #11

Healthy young people who are working are already paying into Medicare. SheilaT Sep 2013 #34

They are also paying into health care. Cleita Sep 2013 #35

Exactly. SheilaT Sep 2013 #48

I suspect that any increase to pay for it would be lost in the noise margin anyway johnd83 Sep 2013 #12

"Im going to hold my breath and stomp my feet until,,,," Cryptoad Sep 2013 #14

If Obama folded and delayed it for the Republicans AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #16

Then I guess Medicare for all would have to be extended Cleita Sep 2013 #18

Yeah that would be cool AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #49

They would be back in a year with more terrorist threats randr Sep 2013 #17

I think terra, terra has worn out its welcome as a fear tactic. Cleita Sep 2013 #25

That is an absolutely fiendishly brilliant idea. nt Flatulo Sep 2013 #24

Too fiendish I believe for our President, who likes to Cleita Sep 2013 #26

You're right, of course, but one can dream... Flatulo Sep 2013 #31

fantastic idea -- i like. nashville_brook Sep 2013 #28

That's too bold a move for this president Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2013 #29

I don't think so either. I was throwing out a possible option. Cleita Sep 2013 #30

Medicare eligibility is defined by statute. Presidents don't rule by fiat. tritsofme Sep 2013 #33

Actually the executive order strategy was touted as far back as 2009 by Cleita Sep 2013 #36

That would be completely lawless. The president does not get to unilaterally rewrite tritsofme Sep 2013 #39

Actually there is a lot of opinion about it out there that Cleita Sep 2013 #41

This isn't just us disagreeing. You are either misremembering tritsofme Sep 2013 #43

I said you are entitled to your opinion. Cleita Sep 2013 #46

And you are certainly entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts. tritsofme Sep 2013 #50

It is possible just unlikely and I recognize that. Cleita Sep 2013 #51

Yes, it would be possible to issue that order, or any order, but it would be unlawful. tritsofme Sep 2013 #52

Did even he try to make one that contradicted statutory law? treestar Sep 2013 #57

Never negotiate with terrorists. Rex Sep 2013 #37

If only we could get HS to start treating them as such. Cleita Sep 2013 #47

From the point of view of political strategy, if I were in President Obama's shoes, I would let the JDPriestly Sep 2013 #38

I totally agree with you, however, with Harry Reid and Pres. Obama's Cleita Sep 2013 #40

Thanks. JDPriestly Sep 2013 #44

I was going to propose writing in the public option... Barack_America Sep 2013 #42

Mine would amount to a public option because it would be a buy Cleita Sep 2013 #45

The ACA allows people to be registered to vote at the same time as they apply for coverage. PDJane Sep 2013 #53

Although your idea is awesome, truedelphi Sep 2013 #54