General Discussion

freshwest

(53,661 posts)

49. Tears. Well said. Thanks, NYC SKP

Reply to NYC_SKP (Original post)

Sat Sep 28, 2013, 11:01 PM

Sep 2013

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

115 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

This is a time of shame and sorrow. It is not a day for politics. [View all] NYC_SKP Sep 2013 OP

Thanks for posting, NYC_SKP brer cat Sep 2013 #1

De nada, brer cat. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #2

k&r thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #3

I miss Bobby Kennedy more than Martin or John. He was the hope my generation held so closely. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #15

I hadnt thought of it before, but I will certainly agree with you. rhett o rick Sep 2013 #23

I miss them all, but Bobby most of all, too. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #25

Yes. I totally concur. I worked on Bobby's campaign in Oregon & California 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #87

Worked on Bobby's campaign in Pennsylvania .... tweeternik Sep 2013 #89

I was only twelve years old, but I did get to see him on his tour through California. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #93

Well said, and well shown, my dear NYC_SKP... CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2013 #4

They are just children, Peggy. WTH is wrong with us? NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #5

Totally! It's a complete disgrace. calimary Sep 2013 #6

Agreed, calimary. What is it about our culture that makes people want to be so violent. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #18

This will be controversial, but here goes! juajen Sep 2013 #7

No argument here. We owe it to our children to consider every possible cause of violent behavior. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #8

Correlation does not imply causation. More violence is perpetrated by men, who are raised jtuck004 Sep 2013 #9

What are you suggesting? LittleBlue Sep 2013 #28

Actually, that was my point! juajen Sep 2013 #33

There's no such thing as too much research or too much education. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #63

This is a very interesting topic. I agree that more research on it needs to be done. totodeinhere Sep 2013 #83

The study cited in your article is interesting, makes me wonder about a solution... NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #115

When we as a society do nothing Lifelong Protester Sep 2013 #10

Bobby Kennedy was particularly skillful in building consensus and staying on point. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #12

Thank you nt G_j Sep 2013 #11

Oh, please. Robb Sep 2013 #13

This is not a day for politics. (nt) NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #14

Is it a day for creepy stalky gun trollery? Robb Sep 2013 #16

And using a picture of the kids in Newtown, to make an anti-gun control point, apparently. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #37

"Anti-gun control point"? NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #39

Are you going to answer Robb's point? About, say, the shotun thread 2 days after Newtown? Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #40

This is not a day for politics. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #41

You copied the OP except for the references to gun control, which you removed as "unnecessary" Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #57

The speech has 1,012 words. We each had different points to make. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #59

I'm obviously not the only one who came away with that impression. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #62

I'm lost on the bikini reference. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #67

Okay. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #73

Ah, OK. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #75

Your selective editing is political, in addition to being disgusting and dishonest. nt Electric Monk Sep 2013 #21

Robb's OP was equally selective. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #60

As you play politics. Schema Thing Sep 2013 #45

" Surely, this bond of common faith, this bond of common goal, can begin to teach us something." NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #46

Sadly, that does not seem to be the issue tonight. I've got better things to do. (Warning: Kitteh!) freshwest Sep 2013 #79

Now that's love! NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #81

Nice YoungDemCA Sep 2013 #91

K&R!! hue Sep 2013 #17

Accourding to the FBI violent crime has been fallong for thslast 30years. marble falls Sep 2013 #19

Even 1/2 of bad is still bad. Or in this case, horrible and tragic. (nt) NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #30

I don't understand. yewberry Sep 2013 #20

WTF? zappaman Sep 2013 #22

A: To make it accessible to every DU member. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #31

Anyone can read the original, even if not logged in. Only gun nuts are blocked from replying there. Electric Monk Sep 2013 #34

Then you should've linked to the original yewberry Sep 2013 #35

But he needed to "remove the unnecessary parts"! Robb Sep 2013 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author WillyT Sep 2013 #24

Why did you steal and edit Robb's OP? demmiblue Sep 2013 #26

I followed the link and find the situation very puzzling and disturbing. Totally unexpected. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #32

Meh. Not so unexpected. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #43

Thanks for the link. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #86

Thank you for the compliment. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #109

Take full note that my compliment has been withdrawn as the hypocrisy of your behavior IrishAyes Sep 2013 #112

I don't care what the intent is. This should be locked. Period. n/t AngryOldDem Sep 2013 #36

Considering the OP is a GD host, I don't think that's likely. Robb Sep 2013 #69

Plagiarism? BainsBane Sep 2013 #27

Excerpts from RFK's "Mindless Menace of Violence" speech, April 5, 1968 NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #42

You lifted Robb's OP BainsBane Sep 2013 #44

Yes, credit to Robb for the original post. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #47

Wow, this is shameless. yewberry Sep 2013 #48

Not really. Robert Kennedy's words can't be repeated often enough. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #52

Apparently you think Bobby Kennedy's words needed a little editing. yewberry Sep 2013 #53

No, actually. I didn't use RFK's words much differently in this OP. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #54

Here's what you edited out of the post that you plagiarized: yewberry Sep 2013 #56

Edit the OP, with credit and show his OP in a different font than your additions. No problem then. freshwest Sep 2013 #51

Done, thanks! NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #55

K&R pintobean Sep 2013 #29

Tears. Well said. Thanks, NYC SKP freshwest Sep 2013 #49

K&R Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #50

K&R cliffordu Sep 2013 #58

I recced the original post, not this Bowdlerized version. eppur_se_muova Sep 2013 #61

Shame on you. 99Forever Sep 2013 #64

Have you seen the entirety of the 1,012 word speech? NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #68

This speech always break my heart... Moostache Sep 2013 #94

I agree gopiscrap Sep 2013 #65

K&R! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #66

Allow me to add this additional section which certainly applies to our current society: NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #70

Too late. Robb Sep 2013 #72

I'm seeing one link that does not show that; it appears to be valid; is there a full transcript. freshwest Sep 2013 #80

Full transcript added in reply #76. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #82

"Hat tip"? Robb Sep 2013 #71

Adding Audio Clip and Transcript: In his own words, "On the Mindless Menace of Violence in America. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #76

Yes, thanks. The general well being of our nation is at stake here. K&R Tuesday Afternoon Sep 2013 #77

I believe that is the speech he gave extemporaneously Samantha Sep 2013 #78

Possibly, you're thinking of the Indianapolis speech he gave on the day of the assassination. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #84

Yes, you are correct - thank you Samantha Sep 2013 #100

RFK was a visionary, he was transcendent, the best of that generation. Standing on a flat-bed truck NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #103

Thank you for this Samantha Sep 2013 #114

Violence Has Killed Society In America - The Road To Redemption Will Be Difficult At Best cantbeserious Sep 2013 #85

and a time for plagiarism and stalkery stuff, I guess RetroLounge Sep 2013 #88

New measures that would include more restrictions on the ownership of deadly weapons... YoungDemCA Sep 2013 #90

Robert F. Kennedy’s Daughter Calls for Tighter Gun Laws: NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #92

Excellent add. What might have been. freshwest Sep 2013 #95

Notice and request to all of DU IrishAyes Sep 2013 #96

I strongly recommend two works by Larry Lessig: NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #97

No, that's NOT all. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #107

RFK's message is one of reconciliation and purpose. NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #108

What you've done is get your licks in and then tell others to shut up and swallow it. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #111

Jeez pintobean Sep 2013 #99

I don't give a rat's ass if you like it or not. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #101

May I use that pintobean Sep 2013 #102

Where's that "puke" icon when I need it? IrishAyes Sep 2013 #104

You have to pintobean Sep 2013 #105

WOW! That's some serious chit! Sissyk Sep 2013 #106

President Clinton: Speech at the 25th Anniversary Memorial Mass for Robert F. Kennedy (June 6, 1993) NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #98

And you, quite simply, have betrayed him. As well as yourself. IrishAyes Sep 2013 #110

REMARKABLE: "Landmark for Peace Memorial", Indianapolis, on site of RFK's speech" NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #113