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42. Like I said, Gullible much? n-t

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N.S.A. Gathers Data on Social Connections of U.S. Citizens (NYT) [View all] jsr Sep 2013 OP

This shit has got to stop gopiscrap Sep 2013 #1

I gotta agree. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #8

thanks gopiscrap Sep 2013 #60

K&R n/t hootinholler Sep 2013 #2

Move along, nothing to see here. DirkGently Sep 2013 #3

K and R nt Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #4

they love the internet They_Live Sep 2013 #5

For 300 millions US taxpayers, and their overseas acquaintances? Demeter Sep 2013 #6

What sucks the most is this is being done by a Dem government lark Sep 2013 #7

Which only make one wonder, how much farther will the Republicans push the surveillance state Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #13

Scary thought lark Sep 2013 #63

They don't see us as citizens Hydra Sep 2013 #10

Sure is an aweful lot of revelations regarding our snoop factory in the news lately. nt adirondacker Sep 2013 #9

There were a lot before Snowden Hydra Sep 2013 #11

According to the article, these individuals are related to legitimate foreign targets. randome Sep 2013 #12

+1 (nt) reACTIONary Sep 2013 #15

Gullible much? n-t Logical Sep 2013 #18

Give us some evidence. I'm sick and tired of all this vague implication crap. randome Sep 2013 #19

Please point out actual terror attacks prevented by the NSA spying. Not half ass plans that they.... Logical Sep 2013 #23

I have no idea what attacks they prevented. randome Sep 2013 #30

Like I said, Gullible much? n-t Logical Sep 2013 #42

You don't reflexively believe anything from the documents. morningfog Sep 2013 #25

The 'documents'? You mean Snowden's Powerpoint slides? randome Sep 2013 #29

There has been so much more released than the power points. morningfog Sep 2013 #35

Most of those documents make implications, nothing more. randome Sep 2013 #44

Agencies spying on and going after people like MLK and Abbie Hoffman come to mind. nt Incitatus Sep 2013 #50

They spied against two U.S. Senators as well. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #52

That's not what the article said. morningfog Sep 2013 #24

Why would they be 'interested' in a foreign individual if they weren't already under suspicion? randome Sep 2013 #31

You may very well be in that indirect chain. morningfog Sep 2013 #33

Email does not carry flags of citizenship. randome Sep 2013 #34

Of course they know. They admit they know the citizenship. morningfog Sep 2013 #37

Okay, I stand corrected. randome Sep 2013 #43

Then Kevin Bacon is screwed. n/t winter is coming Sep 2013 #56

They use Facebook? Knock me over with a feather. ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2013 #14

+1 (nt) reACTIONary Sep 2013 #16

They don't just use Facebook, they collect all the connections, that's the first step to becoming Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #20

No, it sounds like the first step toward investigating known associates of known terrorists. randome Sep 2013 #21

How difficult do you believe it would be for the government to find out any name associated with Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #26

Every single LE agency in the world has the potential for abuse. randome Sep 2013 #27

None of those laws or rules stopped those transgressions which I just posted and they were kept Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #36

Well, that was the 1970s. It's not hard to see that the NSA was abusing its authority then. randome Sep 2013 #39

Yes and this is the 2010s but people still make up the NSA just as they did in 1970s. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #45

No, it was something on one of the slides. Internal administrative checks and balances. randome Sep 2013 #48

So then this vast collection of Internet/Phone data goes to both parties, FBI and NSA? Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #49

So far as we know, only data that is pertinent to each agency's mission is handed over. randome Sep 2013 #51

What is the SGP? Furthermore, past history of spying against two U.S Senators Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #53

Snowden, Greenwald, Poitras. Sorry, guess I was trying to make that a meme. randome Sep 2013 #55

I admit all I have to go by is history and past performance along with Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #58

If you believe that one, I got about half a dozen bridges for you. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #38

So what do you think stops a LE agency from going off the rails? randome Sep 2013 #40

It sure ain't secret courts and secret oversight-or lack thereof. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #46

I doubt many will argue against less secrecy and more transparency. randome Sep 2013 #47

Go ahead, make light of the fact that they have compiled dossiers on virtually every American. Th1onein Sep 2013 #32

knr Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #17

I for one have 100% trust in our government to always do the thing as long as it is done in secret Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #22

That's more or less what Winston Churchill said without the secrecy part, no doubt the secrecy Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #28

They certainly have earned our trust. Octafish Sep 2013 #41

Thank you NSA. underthematrix Sep 2013 #54

Can The NSA Help Me With My Love Life? - Maybe That Would Be A Money Maker For The Government cantbeserious Sep 2013 #57

Whew, glad to hear there is no mass surveillance. Pholus Sep 2013 #59

So I guess you hate freedom. BlueCheese Sep 2013 #61

Horrible and disgusting. Complete surveillance state. chimpymustgo Sep 2013 #62