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leveymg

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71. There are more than 4 million Americans with security clearances. Most of them
Thu Sep 26, 2013, 09:16 PM
Sep 2013

Last edited Fri Sep 27, 2013, 08:09 AM - Edit history (1)

are cleared to spy on the rest of us.

One might therefore say, numerically, that we are far more spied upon than the East German population was before the Wall came down.

Actually, it's worse than that.


In 1990, the population of E Germany was about 16 million, of which 170,000 were paid Stasi informants. That's about 1 percent of the population. That number almost exactly matched the number of active uniformed personnel in all three branches of the DDR military.

Today, the active duty US military numbers about 1.5 million, but the number of American civilian contractors with security clearances is at least twice that same number. There are roughly 300 million of us. That means, the proportion of security-cleared military and civilians is actually fifty percent higher in America today than it was in Communist East Germany at the time Markus Wolf ran the Stasi.

He would feel right at home in America, 2013.


(Stasi files)

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #1
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Sep 2013 #2
"...there will be bands." babylonsister Sep 2013 #3
Lauter sprechen in das Mikrofon, bitte. Octafish Sep 2013 #4
ich bin auslander und spreche nicht gut deutch NightWatcher Sep 2013 #5
STASI Fashion Show Octafish Sep 2013 #41
Ja bitte! hootinholler Sep 2013 #7
LOL's... That's really something! KoKo Sep 2013 #24
Have you seen Emo Hitler? hootinholler Sep 2013 #27
I read that as Elmo Hitler tavalon Sep 2013 #67
Weird how ''organized'' those on the right are. Octafish Sep 2013 #47
With the recent revelations, to think of all that information. hootinholler Sep 2013 #53
Snowden was discovered very quickly... ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2013 #59
Oh really? hootinholler Sep 2013 #61
Snowden..."Behind the Bards?" Anyone have a good PiX of this? KoKo Sep 2013 #64
Wrong, again. Snowden wasn't 'discovered quickly', Snowden had the guts to reveal himself sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #75
There were already FBI investigators at his door in Hawaii when he made it to Hong Kong... ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2013 #78
Lol! sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #79
So, you did have another one! hootinholler Sep 2013 #82
Good point. Billionaires would never participate in illegal stuff for even more lucre MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #76
When we get that President hootinholler Sep 2013 #81
Ist ein der Karl Rover in der diskise? leveymg Sep 2013 #26
Same type of lovely. Octafish Sep 2013 #42
Wow, a 15-track recording session! Dig that Epson computer! Oldie but goldie leveymg Sep 2013 #44
Epson? hootinholler Sep 2013 #45
Not a PET, but very similar to that Commodore 1st gen PC leveymg Sep 2013 #50
In the same vein, found this blast from the past (1987): leveymg Sep 2013 #74
ROFL hootinholler Sep 2013 #83
Thought you might dig it. leveymg Sep 2013 #84
At first I thought those two were on a wedding cake hootinholler Sep 2013 #85
One agent per 15 locations. Octafish Sep 2013 #46
I recall reading the Stasi could only tap about 85 phones at once in the whole country! leveymg Sep 2013 #54
I wonder how the "Paid for Spy" stats are for the USA these days...... KoKo Sep 2013 #65
There are more than 4 million Americans with security clearances. Most of them leveymg Sep 2013 #71
Recommended. (nt) NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #6
The first rule of Fight Club is kenny blankenship Sep 2013 #8
Kenny, we are, these days, well known, hardly underground, tavalon Sep 2013 #68
Oh good grief.. Fumesucker Sep 2013 #9
Wrong Beltway, silly. hootinholler Sep 2013 #12
I flew that route on acid once, stayed right above the road too! Dragonfli Sep 2013 #17
A BIG KICK and a REC! Th1onein Sep 2013 #10
I cannot be there in person this time, but will definitely be there in spirit. sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #11
The site mentions viewing parties. hootinholler Sep 2013 #55
I'm in! dorkzilla Sep 2013 #13
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #14
Can the same bunch be lined up against the TPP? starroute Sep 2013 #15
If we are to fix anything hootinholler Sep 2013 #16
Clicking on the link to the rally resulted in an attack on my computer system Rosa Luxemburg Sep 2013 #18
I've had no issues with the site hootinholler Sep 2013 #21
Me neither! n/t dorkzilla Sep 2013 #51
Can't get to DC, wish I could tho /nt Dragonfli Sep 2013 #19
10/26 in DC. See you there! leveymg Sep 2013 #20
Absolutely! hootinholler Sep 2013 #22
I'm sure we'll have a nice big group of DUers. Thanks for getting the ball rolling! leveymg Sep 2013 #25
Recommend. What an Impressive LIST! Dare we HOPE??? KoKo Sep 2013 #23
Ya know, I wondered that also hootinholler Sep 2013 #28
K&R grasswire Sep 2013 #29
K&R n/t NealK Sep 2013 #30
Great... malokvale77 Sep 2013 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author allan01 Sep 2013 #32
Wait! Snowden didn't matter remember! nt Logical Sep 2013 #33
Too far from Los Angeles, but I will be there in spirit. JDPriestly Sep 2013 #34
I can't make it there. Hopefully there will be other ones in other cities. cui bono Sep 2013 #35
The details on the site are sparse hootinholler Sep 2013 #39
K n R. n/t JimDandy Sep 2013 #36
K&R idwiyo Sep 2013 #37
Third time lucky! BelgianMadCow Sep 2013 #38
Indeed, it is hootinholler Sep 2013 #40
K&R -Great! myrna minx Sep 2013 #43
How do we get DU on the list? grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #48
I would imagine that we would have to petition Mr Allen hootinholler Sep 2013 #49
It felt good to be using Firefox (a Mozilla browser) tavalon Sep 2013 #73
If we can't get DU "officially" added to the list, we should at least organize a meet-up dorkzilla Sep 2013 #52
I always loved those meet ups before the rallys in DC tavalon Sep 2013 #69
Cool, gandi.net is the registrar of all my websites. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #56
K&R - Wish I could go. nt Vanje Sep 2013 #57
Me too! hootinholler Sep 2013 #58
K&R nt Guy Whitey Corngood Sep 2013 #60
NSA Spied on MLK, US Senators and Other Vietnam War Critics, Documents Show adirondacker Sep 2013 #62
Incredible coalition! avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #63
I had totally missed this and thank you for it. tavalon Sep 2013 #66
Well I haven't googled everyone hootinholler Sep 2013 #70
And I didn't see Freedom Works first time through tavalon Sep 2013 #72
Senator Wyden also is introducing a bill to curb NSA's dog 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #77
"Bradley Manning Support Network"?!?! Pterodactyl Sep 2013 #80
Probably they registered it early on...and legally haven't had time to KoKo Sep 2013 #86
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