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hopemountain

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222. thank you for the olive branch

Tue Sep 24, 2013, 01:06 AM

Sep 2013

it is beautiful.

united we stand, divided we fall.

it is my understanding the president has followed a long held (since Lincoln) belief that choosing persons of other parties to hold positions in their cabinet to be an expression of true democracy and protection of our constitution. however, now such thinking is proving to be folly because the corporatists and republicans are blood and guts deceivers. they seem to only see our government and our citizens as their "precious" gold mine.they do not care for the people much less our environment. it is all only a means to an end - a big fat bank account.

as for the xl pipeline, president obama has said that he will not support anything which endangers the safety of our environment and people's lives. yet, there are those in high government offices who are interfering with investigations which have uncovered evidence of contamination & who are shutting down these very investigations.

we, the people who care about these issues cannot shut up nor let up at this point. sometimes i think the president hears us and other times, i'm not so sure. he heard us about climate change - but then signed for added drilling off our coasts. ???? wtf? yes, i am upset about this - having grown up in santa barbara and having witnessed our coastline dotted with oil platforms - and the horrible oil spill washed up on our beaches. i was in high school and a budding activist/environmentalist.

the environment is an important issue. did you know the head of the usda is former monsanto? along with toxic dna in our food supply, i see fracking and reckless mining of natural resources as destructive to the future of our loved ones and our planet.

many people in government & across the country have their hands in the financial pot, perhaps even our potus (i hope not !) through their investment portfolios. if you know folks with 401k's or 401c3's, they may not be fully aware of exactly where their retirement funds are invested (but they should!). when i had mine, i went green. not many investment firms offer this option. but i chose one that did.

as for my personal situation, it is not good. but i'm grateful because it could be worse. in fact, i know it would be worse if another goper was our potus.

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How did a group dedicated to discussion regarding a Democratic POTUS, on an ostensibly ... [View all] 11 Bravo Sep 2013 OP

Beats Hell Out Of Me, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2013 #1

Once again, Sir, you separate the wheat from the chaff. 11 Bravo Sep 2013 #7

"unremitting hostility to people elected to office as Democrats..." Sadly, no. You are wrong. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #10

Bravo! Scuba Sep 2013 #16

'Holding Feet To The Fire', Sir, Is Not Dousing Them In Gasoline And Striking A Match The Magistrate Sep 2013 #21

My sentiments exactly. kestrel91316 Sep 2013 #102

. jazzimov Sep 2013 #115

Could not have stated it better myself!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #126

Strangely enough, I have not seen any DUer burning the POTUS in effigy not have I practiced that. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #127

I Appreciate Your Efforts To Demonstrate My Point, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2013 #138

I am very happy to point out your factually incorrect assumptions, when appropriate, R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #148

Again, Sir: You Have Demonstrated The Point I Made Splendidly The Magistrate Sep 2013 #156

Kick and Rec what you said, Sir! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #162

You are more than welcome to discuss... R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #166

Plumping For A Side-Track, Sir, Will Find Few Takers The Magistrate Sep 2013 #170

He doesn't quite realize he's been owned. MADem Sep 2013 #177

It's even better when you pretend to ignore it but then bring it to attention. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #197

You seem to be having trouble with your keyboard. MADem Sep 2013 #200

Oh, I'm fine. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #204

Sorry--I won't be derailed, either. You don't get to play the "Look over here" game. MADem Sep 2013 #212

Ah, another coward in denial. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #218

You don't get to be personally insulting either. nt MADem Sep 2013 #221

I'll leave that up to you as you run out the door. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #229

Keep it up---it helps people see you for what you are! MADem Sep 2013 #245

Oh, I thought you ran away. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #368

No, you didn't. nt MADem Sep 2013 #384

posts like this are what is making DU3 suck backwoodsbob Sep 2013 #389

I think you should look in the mirror, there, bob. MADem Sep 2013 #407

don't try to derail this subthread backwoodsbob Sep 2013 #411

If you don't want to be talked about, then don't insert yourself into the drama. MADem Sep 2013 #468

Anyone who types this dreck "The critics job is the hard path...the strait path" should know Number23 Sep 2013 #244

That was a hugely enjoyable film--I liked it way more than I expected I would!!! nt MADem Sep 2013 #246

I understand your reluctance. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #178

Very good debate, Daneel Lasher Sep 2013 #262

True democrats? Maybe not. True progressives and liberals, yes. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #303

Now That, Sir, Is a Sound Position The Magistrate Sep 2013 #309

bog is about respect hopemountain Sep 2013 #140

Explain how the three posted below are worthy of respect...for starters. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #158

those folks are hopemountain Sep 2013 #179

I like you Vanje Sep 2013 #186

back at you, vanje hopemountain Sep 2013 #190

I am going to offer an olive branch and explain my reasoning as well. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #195

thank you for the olive branch hopemountain Sep 2013 #222

"did you know the head of the usda is former monsanto?" R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #228

as is the appointed head of the FDA, Michael Taylor. bvar22 Sep 2013 #312

Great post hopemountain. Autumn Sep 2013 #299

+1 DCBob Sep 2013 #401

Thank you for this post! Celefin Sep 2013 #259

Thanks for the post hopemountain. Civil and balanced. nt GoneFishin Sep 2013 #452

Okay, enough! The horse is dead already. How many posts do we need on this? brush Sep 2013 #289

And you nail it once again, dear Magistrate! Surya Gayatri Sep 2013 #220

And this is why you RUN this joint. Yeah, the admins set it up but you own it. Number23 Sep 2013 #241

Really? Phlem Sep 2013 #328

No you have not disidoro01 Sep 2013 #366

You Are Going To Pretend, Sir, You Know My Comments And Views Better Than I Do? The Magistrate Sep 2013 #374

I've done some searching disidoro01 Sep 2013 #376

Good For You: I Have A Memory.... The Magistrate Sep 2013 #379

No disidoro01 Sep 2013 #381

Sometimes, Sir, The Messengers Just Make It So Easy... The Magistrate Sep 2013 #383

Don't be foolish disidoro01 Sep 2013 #390

No Need to Tell Me That, Sir; Not Even My Wife Thinks Me Foolish.... The Magistrate Sep 2013 #391

lol ok disidoro01 Sep 2013 #397

+1! DCBob Sep 2013 #373

+1 uponit7771 Sep 2013 #463

Exactly! n/t sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #105

+1000 !!!! Why I'm on DU orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #427

Ha! Well Done, The Magistrate! babylonsister Sep 2013 #19

Tell me about it!!!! Well articulated! nt MADem Sep 2013 #53

I respectfully disagree, sir Warpy Sep 2013 #116

Indeed, Warpy, elleng Sep 2013 #152

Better question: Why is the group so small? leftstreet Sep 2013 #2

I believe it's small because if you don't agree with EVERYTHING Obama says and does... CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2013 #4

Well, that would explain it leftstreet Sep 2013 #9

Their banned list is nearly half of their enrollment. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #11

Well, that's not accurate, either. Unless you have a very fluid view of the word "half." nt MADem Sep 2013 #354

124 blocked to 315 subscribers. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #364

I hope you're not an accountant, if that's "nearly" to you. MADem Sep 2013 #385

39.4% Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #365

As I said elsewhere, if those percentages were election results, MADem Sep 2013 #388

Of course they are not election results, the banned list being a list of Obama voters Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #470

I used the word "if" for a reason. My point was that there's a huge difference in those numbers. MADem Sep 2013 #471

OMG!! You got thrown out of group? Was it for the F-Bomb?? madinmaryland Sep 2013 #38

My dear madinmaryland! CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2013 #45

Hey CP!! The only group I trashed was the madinmaryland Sep 2013 #55

Oh yeah...I trashed the gungeon too. I'd forgotten about it! CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2013 #65

Don't you have a checkbook to balance or something? Kolesar Sep 2013 #85

Heh. I don't hate anybody, actually. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2013 #87

YOu are just doing this for stimulation, then Kolesar Sep 2013 #90

You think MY behavior is odd? CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2013 #108

Hi Peggy~ sheshe2 Sep 2013 #110

You need to know how much I appreciated your support, esp when I was ill... CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2013 #114

Peggy~ sheshe2 Sep 2013 #125

I hope we will always have this mutual respect. I plan to. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2013 #144

"we do not walk in lock step." tkmorris Sep 2013 #185

No. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #191

An example - you blocked Bonobo muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #304

EXACTLY! Puglover Sep 2013 #334

One problem with his posting in that thread. DevonRex Sep 2013 #461

That's laughable. You're trying to pretend that 'this is in BOG' justifies any random ban? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #466

Excellent point. Too bad it won't sink in. nt Union Scribe Sep 2013 #235

"those that wish to have us gone" Vanje Sep 2013 #193

Vanje, thank you for your reply. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #239

You say "a group that upholds Democratic ideals". An important Democratic ideal, as reflected AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #310

Interesting. That rather puts your recent "kind" words to me in a different light. DevonRex Sep 2013 #403

I always mean my kind words, always. Never doubt that. CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2013 #404

Right. And i guess so did all the others here who've said unbelievably cruel DevonRex Sep 2013 #428

I do. call someone "My Dear" and stab em in the back. nt dionysus Sep 2013 #476

Same could be said for other groups too, Peggy. RiffRandell Sep 2013 #128

That is bullshit, I am a big critic of Obama. joshcryer Sep 2013 #146

Yep. And that fact speaks volumes no matter how some may try to rationalize it. Mojorabbit Sep 2013 #234

Completely untrue. There is a variety of opinions on the policy. grantcart Sep 2013 #394

most DU groups are small , but i believe it's more active than most JI7 Sep 2013 #26

We sure as hell are active! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #129

because they run out ANYONE who doesn't have a Tiger Beat mentality Skittles Sep 2013 #33

It's got over three times the membership of the Elizabeth Warren group....but it's not a contest. nt MADem Sep 2013 #67

Number one in banning regulars, you should be proud. Rex Sep 2013 #413

Because their adoration is almost religious... HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #3

You hate the President. We have seen that repeatedly. Kolesar Sep 2013 #77

Unintentional irony? LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #83

nosey nellie...eom Kolesar Sep 2013 #86

Wait a minute. The SOP of that group is that it isn't a site for criticism. MADem Sep 2013 #84

MADem! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #149

Anytime! nt MADem Sep 2013 #169

Here is the problem disidoro01 Sep 2013 #271

That is not true. And there is no "problem" -- except for disruptors who are thwarted. MADem Sep 2013 #339

Nice disidoro01 Sep 2013 #342

Nice attempt at distraction. Clumsy, desperate, and obvious, but done with verve! MADem Sep 2013 #348

You are correct disidoro01 Sep 2013 #362

I am correct that you should find another hobby. MADem Sep 2013 #371

More disidoro01 Sep 2013 #377

I can understand why you need "more." MADem Sep 2013 #382

You are technically correct disidoro01 Sep 2013 #396

I am sorry for your pain. MADem Sep 2013 #405

Yawn disidoro01 Sep 2013 #408

I wasn't trying to "do it." MADem Sep 2013 #410

there have been brilliant, informative posts hopemountain Sep 2013 #157

Exactly--it's one place that folks can click on where they won't be getting a fistful of shit MADem Sep 2013 #176

well, on the possibility hopemountain Sep 2013 #182

Hee hee! nt MADem Sep 2013 #184

My glass is always half full. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #205

+1,000 MADem Sep 2013 #206

no, that is what it is SUPPOSED TO BE Skittles Sep 2013 #227

If "Tiger Beat" isn't your thing, you could always trash the group. MADem Sep 2013 #247

"Do you really think anyone who posts there cares about your opinion?" Number23 Sep 2013 #256

I think Obama would be extremely disappointed in the BOG. Rex Sep 2013 #414

I'd find that idea easier to believe Union Scribe Sep 2013 #257

Yeah, they "rally the troops" all the time... MADem Sep 2013 #378

hear & here. exactly, madem nt hopemountain Sep 2013 #478

Thanks for explaining that so thoroughly, MADem. nm Cha Sep 2013 #265

Well said. n/t ronnie624 Sep 2013 #337

Exactly nt treestar Sep 2013 #392

yep DrDan Sep 2013 #94

I believe that is what Skittles refers to as Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #213

The squealing MuseRider Sep 2013 #119

Like a Backstreet Boys concert.... HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #122

Hey Hooptie! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #134

Everything ends up being abbreviated into an acronym. Curmudgeoness Sep 2013 #5

But an acronym does not always end up being wielded as an insult. nt tblue37 Sep 2013 #18

Theres a lot acronyms on DU Vanje Sep 2013 #189

Tell me about it. I have had to ask Curmudgeoness Sep 2013 #449

I feel like Tien1985 Sep 2013 #6

Why did someone feel like they needed a special group for Barack Obama? kentuck Sep 2013 #8

Same as all the others zipplewrath Sep 2013 #13

Didn't it get started when he was a candidate? CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2013 #15

Holy shit, the Joe Lieberman group must reduce you to a paroxysm of frothing rage! 11 Bravo Sep 2013 #17

Uhmm. The Rick Santorum Group is the only "frothy" group!! madinmaryland Sep 2013 #58

LOL! with a side of Nausea nt Vanje Sep 2013 #194

Isn't there an Elizabeth Warren Group? JoePhilly Sep 2013 #25

There is. MADem Sep 2013 #202

why not, there is one for other Democrats , is it surprising there wouldbe one for the Dem President JI7 Sep 2013 #32

Why do Elizabeth Warren, John Kerry, and Hillary Clinton supporters "need" a special group MADem Sep 2013 #91

I see groups as more than just a way to discuss a person or issue without outside interference. Revanchist Sep 2013 #201

That's a fair point, too. The pace is slower and yes, more thoughtful. nt MADem Sep 2013 #203

Do I really need to answer that for you kentuck? sheshe2 Sep 2013 #168

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #233

We support the elected President of The United States. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #243

Echo chamber, some need it for security. Rex Sep 2013 #416

It's an acronym, as is 'POTUS'. Are you actually demanding more respect for the BOG Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #12

His point is that the acronym is being used as an EPITHET-- tblue37 Sep 2013 #23

How would you know what his point is? They call themselves the BOG. So if to call them Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #28

It is very easy to use a group's self-selected label tblue37 Sep 2013 #56

I understand your point Vanje Sep 2013 #198

And "Progressive" is, amazingly, being used as an epithet LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #89

By the BOG, no less. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #117

really? when? where? hopemountain Sep 2013 #165

Right here LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #285

They frequently speak of "The Left" as something other than themselves. bvar22 Sep 2013 #329

The use of the BOG is fine with me LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #331

Hear, hear! n/t Laelth Sep 2013 #351

Thats an attitude shared by Fla Dem Party. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #459

Thanks for explaining acronyms in general and POTUS specifically. I had no idea. 11 Bravo Sep 2013 #24

I can simply say you are using it as an epithet, that's all you are doing, making an unsupported Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #37

So you are contending that BOG is not routinely used dismissively at DU? 11 Bravo Sep 2013 #44

I'm saying you have not defined, supported or made clear what your contention is. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #68

I am contending that BOG is occasionally used as a perjorative term at DU. 11 Bravo Sep 2013 #78

I'm sure it is occasionally, but any word can be spoken with contempt, even one's own Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #97

I came back to see if you responded to my post after all of your invective, if you would Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #311

Doubtless you can point to examples of "all (my) invective". 11 Bravo Sep 2013 #380

Well, "bog" is Brit for toilet. riqster Sep 2013 #43

A "bog" can be a dreary wasteland of muck and mud Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #54

If you want to be technical and go back to the origins of the term, I think it's Irish. MADem Sep 2013 #183

It was better than calling it Tiger Beat? Fumesucker Sep 2013 #14

Fumesucker MuseRider Sep 2013 #34

Thread Winner! adirondacker Sep 2013 #79

HA! SammyWinstonJack Sep 2013 #95

Fanboys was already taken. morningfog Sep 2013 #98

Game. Set. Match. RetroLounge Sep 2013 #121

#%^* MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #155

Ahh yes... 99Forever Sep 2013 #278

Perfect Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #284

This response makes this entire mess worth reading libodem Sep 2013 #306

Yer a bad boy! L0oniX Sep 2013 #320

That's only OK when it's Eddie Snowden treestar Sep 2013 #400

When we start seeing lovingly posted swimsuit pics of Snowden, Assange or Warren get back to me n/t Fumesucker Sep 2013 #477

OP, I really really want to hear why you think 'POTUS' is ok but 'BOG' is not. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #20

Look upthread. If you can't figure it out from there, then I can't help you. 11 Bravo Sep 2013 #27

Uh...you don't make fun of someone by calling them a POTUS. You can by calling them a BOGer NoOneMan Sep 2013 #31

That does not even make sense. Any word can be spoken with intent to convey contempt Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #40

Maybe it's like the *N* word. Some can use it, and some can't. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #42

Saying BOG is like the *N* word isn't nearly as fucking funny as you THINK. DevonRex Sep 2013 #250

No, Bluenorthwest obviously thinks that we are merely being neutral tblue37 Sep 2013 #64

I never said the things you are ascibing to me, and that is unacceptable bullshit. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #74

Give us all a break. Desert805 Sep 2013 #252

Who is you all? Union Scribe Sep 2013 #260

That is how they refer to themselves. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #22

it's an ACRONYM - *HELLO* Skittles Sep 2013 #29

Umm, I get that. My reference was to the way the term is often applied here. 11 Bravo Sep 2013 #39

So you feel people need to express more devotion and respect when saying BOG? Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #49

It's an acronym frequently slung contemptuously AS A SLUR. *HELLO* nt tblue37 Sep 2013 #66

gee I cannot IMAGINE why Skittles Sep 2013 #72

Any place that refers MuseRider Sep 2013 #92

it makes certain people feel good about themselves, like how they brag about how many recs JI7 Sep 2013 #30

Figure out why they've banned 100+ people from their group. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2013 #35

^^^^_____^^^^ this nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #57

You state/accept a false premise in framing your query. While the BOG might have begun Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #36

Barack Obama Group. BOG. Statement of Purpose. SOP Autumn Sep 2013 #41

oh it has switched - it's not the USE of the acronym BOG Skittles Sep 2013 #46

OFFFs. What are we supposed to do? Say it sexy? Autumn Sep 2013 #52

As the orthodox type God G*d we must also type B*G to convey respect for our centrist Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #59

You know, I hired ( Voted for) Obama to do a job, Autumn Sep 2013 #71

Maybe we need a :respect: tag that indicates proper tone. RetroLounge Sep 2013 #124

I think I am kind of fond of MuseRider Sep 2013 #288

Now you have me wondering just how "bog" can be said in a sexy way DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2013 #112

In all my years here I have never known you to be willfully obtuse, Skittles. 11 Bravo Sep 2013 #62

Nor am I a member of the group, nor do I post there. tblue37 Sep 2013 #96

This is an amazing post! My sentiments exactly stated! Outstanding post!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #132

Thanks. nt tblue37 Sep 2013 #188

For some reason, people act like there's no difference between someone who is Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #274

Thank you Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #172

true. true. true. hopemountain Sep 2013 #479

Ah yes. The HOF group... Callmecrazy Sep 2013 #50

I thought the HOF group was a sub-set of the Sports Group (Hall of Fame)! madinmaryland Sep 2013 #60

For a brief and shining moment, when I first saw the term referenced, MADem Sep 2013 #353

I thought hof was hall of fame. that explains why I am not in there Doctor_J Sep 2013 #159

The folks using it as an epithet are struggling to deal ... JoePhilly Sep 2013 #47

on they Syria issue JI7 Sep 2013 #51

Yes. The anti-war crowd is mad because we didnt go to war w Syria Vanje Sep 2013 #208

No, they're mad because ~Obama~ didn't go to war with Syria as they all predicted he would. tridim Sep 2013 #282

rolley eye emoticon Vanje Sep 2013 #283

I was 100% correct about Syria and the President's reaction. tridim Sep 2013 #286

^^^^^^^^^^^THiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiissssssss^^^^^^^^^^ FFS. Nt pkdu Sep 2013 #70

Heh. Good post. nt tblue37 Sep 2013 #99

They haven't dialed it back since DU3. joshcryer Sep 2013 #150

Yep. Some are still raging puffy red because Obama didn't bomb like they hoped. Whisp Sep 2013 #154

Link? Union Scribe Sep 2013 #231

Strangely enough, when Obama was thinking about bombing Syria Rex Sep 2013 #240

Read it again, that's not what was being said at all. tridim Sep 2013 #295

Actually, BOG members and Obama supporters ... JoePhilly Sep 2013 #301

Don't bother. Seriously. We know what we said. DevonRex Sep 2013 #465

By Jove, I think he's got it! nt MADem Sep 2013 #248

That's all wrong...it's backwards. dkf Sep 2013 #261

In reality Obama IS keeping us out of stupid wars. tridim Sep 2013 #287

As a candidate, he said he'd leave Iraq and add troops to Afganistan? JoePhilly Sep 2013 #347

Spot on, Joe Philly Hekate Sep 2013 #467

I think that kicked in automatically after they banned the 112th DUer. rug Sep 2013 #48

Being Banned from the BOG is a Badge of Honor Skittles Sep 2013 #61

Because we're awesome. bravenak Sep 2013 #63

... Scurrilous Sep 2013 #322

I'm a host of the Barack Obama group. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #69

124 bans of DU regulars, how proud you must be. Rex Sep 2013 #223

124 bans of people insistent on planting their flag where it was not welcome. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #226

Thanks Bolo for explaining the situation. 124 Blocks of disruptors intruding into a GROUP Cha Sep 2013 #266

Not true. Some were banned for stuff that had nothing to do with the President. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #269

I got banned and did not even know I'd been in that group, I avoid that group because Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #469

So your inability to recognize what and where you are posting is our fault? Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #474

Yes, for shame!!1! Scurrilous Sep 2013 #313

Way to throw disidoro01 Sep 2013 #273

"Way to throw the racist card." I've done no such thing. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #275

I see the problem here, it is the main host. Rex Sep 2013 #317

You may "call out the President for his drone policy" DevonRex Sep 2013 #341

Conform right disidoro01 Sep 2013 #343

I just said you CAN. So start a thread in GD where the most people DevonRex Sep 2013 #356

And good day to you sir! disidoro01 Sep 2013 #363

You can, just not in the BOG. Rex Sep 2013 #345

Because the hatred and disdain for this president is nothing like we've ever seen before... Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #73

Did you live through the Clinton presidency? nt grasswire Sep 2013 #118

I sure did. But again, I've seen NOTHING like the hatred of THIS president. Nothing like it. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #120

I monitored freerepublic during the Clinton years. grasswire Sep 2013 #133

My dear, you went on Free Republic. You should expect that from Free Republic. You should not Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #137

I see many people disagreeing with Obama here. grasswire Sep 2013 #139

I disagree with Obama on quite a few things. That's fine. But I see quite a bit of pure HATRED here Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #142

I have seen very little of that hatred MuseRider Sep 2013 #290

Well, we just see things differently then. I disagree with you wholeheartedly. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #291

Thanks for replying. MuseRider Sep 2013 #294

And I just ask that when you confront it that you won't turn a blind eye to it. Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #336

Oh my MuseRider Sep 2013 #357

We have more in common than you think. I am the daughter of a black gay Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #359

Awesome! MuseRider Sep 2013 #361

I can and will happen, we just have to remain diligent. Look, I never thought Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #367

LOL-- I was banned from the BOG for quoting from the U.N. Charter.... mike_c Sep 2013 #75

I mentioned "3-dimensional chess" in a half-line response DrDan Sep 2013 #103

WHY YOU WERE BLOCKED RIGHT HERE IN YOUR OWN WORDS: DevonRex Sep 2013 #123

What about that is not true? Fumesucker Sep 2013 #264

He wrote the last 2 paragraphs & they're against the SOP. AND DevonRex Sep 2013 #268

sounds like ya'll will go to great lengths to avoid the truth... mike_c Sep 2013 #297

So if, on the BOG, I write... MannyGoldstein Sep 2013 #302

And that is the meat on the bone: what little is left. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #174

No, you were not. You were banned for calling POTUS a "war criminal." MADem Sep 2013 #251

That's typical, too. They pretend complete innocence when they DevonRex Sep 2013 #254

this is why DU sucks.... mike_c Sep 2013 #298

I'll invite you to elucidate, if you can. nt MADem Sep 2013 #333

well, first I did NOT "call the POTUS a war criminal...." mike_c Sep 2013 #346

Excuse me, I cut-and-pasted your very words. MADem Sep 2013 #352

LOL-- I'm LAUGHING at the BOG, not whining about being banned.... mike_c Sep 2013 #387

Naaah. MADem Sep 2013 #393

I bet they banned Ban Ki Mon right after you. nt Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #270

It's so bad in there ...even Obama got banned. L0oniX Sep 2013 #321

I've never wandered in there BainsBane Sep 2013 #76

Because that group operates like a fanclub LittleBlue Sep 2013 #80

Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #81

What is that supposed to mean? eom Kolesar Sep 2013 #88

Not sure what he was Trying to say.. but evidently the Cha Sep 2013 #267

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Orrex Sep 2013 #293

In a country of 300 million, 100 compulsive flamebots have found their way to this forum Kolesar Sep 2013 #82

+1. LOL. n/t FSogol Sep 2013 #93

Pfft. As if. truebluegreen Sep 2013 #106

I for one am glad they found each other. Scurrilous Sep 2013 #113

In an age of acronyms, this self-named group chose BOG. They are free to change it. Divernan Sep 2013 #100

facinating life you lead Kolesar Sep 2013 #101

BOG is a very touchy bunch, they love to "BAN" people from their insularity, like me. 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #104

I think Skinner sums it up pretty nicely here: Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #107

That's good to know. Thanks .. "Dear Leader" huh? that's rich. ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #111

Skinner has the etymology and usage wrong here LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #292

Your entire post Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #296

Oh Bobbie honey, if you say it it must be true LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #327

Take a bow.... Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #340

But you misunderstand my appreciation of your oh so wise council LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #344

Insight. Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #358

Only your insight can save us LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #370

I said that he wasn't Wall Street's biggest enemy MisterP Sep 2013 #167

It isn't so much because of what they post in the BOG. morningfog Sep 2013 #109

Brwawawaaaa.. consider the source 11 Bravo.. Cha Sep 2013 #130

LOL~ sheshe2 Sep 2013 #180

ObamaCares.. do you? Cha Sep 2013 #209

For the life of me,I cannot understand the obsession some sufrommich Sep 2013 #131

I can't stay I understand it, either. If you hate Obama, fine. Why pick on the BOG? Just don't go Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #135

Why doesn't the BOG get its group hidden from "Latest Threads"? grasswire Sep 2013 #141

Again, why do people who don't like to post on BOG because of the nature of that group Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #147

Thank you for the concern about the BOG! sheshe2 Sep 2013 #236

WE HAVE NO FUCKING CONTROL OVER THAT. IT'S SKINNER'S CALL.nt DevonRex Sep 2013 #253

Every new post on this web site shows up in Latest Threads. The admins have made the Number23 Sep 2013 #255

not so grasswire Sep 2013 #316

Nor do any of them have over 100 banned regulars. Rex Sep 2013 #318

And my guess would be only one of them, maybe two, JimDandy Sep 2013 #439

Even if what you say is true (and I'm not sure if it is) it doesn't negate the fact that Number23 Sep 2013 #386

yes, and I wonder why someone doesn't? grasswire Sep 2013 #443

Well, you have been repeatedly shown that you are wrong. I guess only time will tell Number23 Sep 2013 #457

No they do NOT "have that protection for themselves." DevonRex Sep 2013 #462

Grasswire, Here is the motherfucking heading at the top of the Greatest Page: DevonRex Sep 2013 #417

Crickets. Cha Sep 2013 #440

I'm not sure why you're so excited. grasswire Sep 2013 #441

"I frequent several groups that do not expose their OPs to Latest Threads," DevonRex Sep 2013 #445

Probably because it spills out into GD Union Scribe Sep 2013 #258

So if other DUers would just stop disagreeing with you sufrommich Sep 2013 #279

^This Hydra Sep 2013 #324

Some people need an echo chamber to feel secure. Rex Sep 2013 #136

Because of their behavior during the primaries of 2008. TransitJohn Sep 2013 #143

It's true that Jane Hamsher was a Hillary shill... joshcryer Sep 2013 #151

Blue spruce jellybean rainbow TransitJohn Sep 2013 #160

I clearly blew your mind. joshcryer Sep 2013 #161

I thought we were spouting non-sequitors after you started. TransitJohn Sep 2013 #163

I thought we were bashing primary supporters of Obama. joshcryer Sep 2013 #175

It wasn't at all clear that that is what you were doing. TransitJohn Sep 2013 #181

That really is the only response you can give sometimes! Rex Sep 2013 #219

So... Hillary supporters are "shills"? winter is coming Sep 2013 #164

Nah, she shied away from that support once Obama was nominated. joshcryer Sep 2013 #173

Innuendo and lies. joshcryer Sep 2013 #145

here is what confuses me: Raine1967 Sep 2013 #153

The BOG is also a safe haven group: Raine1967 Sep 2013 #171

They earned their contempt when... Oakenshield Sep 2013 #187

It has so far banned 124 DU members from the group? Rex Sep 2013 #192

Nearly half its member base. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #199

The ONLY group that has over one hundred bans of DU regulars. Rex Sep 2013 #211

Get over it. n/t Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #276

I am sorry if facts hurt your feelings. Rex Sep 2013 #314

It's none of your business, Rex. n/t Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #406

Yeah I know you would like me to stfu, but I will be far more vocal about Rex Sep 2013 #429

Look, it's your life. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #435

More parroting Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #207

Didn't mean to hurt your feelings. Rex Sep 2013 #210

IOW Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #215

Kewl story bro. Rex Sep 2013 #216

U mad? Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #230

You obviously are. Rex Sep 2013 #232

I think we've identified Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #237

I agree you always lose these conversations. Rex Sep 2013 #238

the numbers don't matter treestar Sep 2013 #398

Wrong, the POTUS would be ashamed that someone is representing Rex Sep 2013 #419

It's not more of a disgrace than any other group treestar Sep 2013 #453

Welcome to bizarro DU... SidDithers Sep 2013 #196

There is nothing bizarre about criticism of our electeds, Sid. R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #214

What is bizarre is a tiny group banning over a hundred DU regulars. Rex Sep 2013 #217

It reminds me of the * days where the rabid right weenies were R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #224

BOG is the best name for that group no doubt. Rex Sep 2013 #225

Because a party label tells us all we need to know about the President! YoungDemCA Sep 2013 #249

It's only *some* of the President's supporters who behave like trolls muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #308

I don't think I've ever posted there either Cali_Democrat Sep 2013 #242

That group has no moral core. All they care about is where Obama stands. dkf Sep 2013 #263

Out of the many disgraceful comments on both sides of this fight, yours is one of the worst. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #277

It's the truth. How can you be against stupid wars and support all this aggression? dkf Sep 2013 #325

Your insults go over the line. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #409

The truth hurts because it is the truth. dkf Sep 2013 #421

I'm not putting up with your bullshit smears of other good DU members. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #423

I don't think it has anything to do with Obama and where he stands. Rex Sep 2013 #319

I agree completely, Obama would be ashamed of the BOG. Rex Sep 2013 #422

This hurts most of all. Thank you so much. DevonRex Sep 2013 #425

I don't believe a word of what you are saying anymore. Rex Sep 2013 #432

Are you saying I have no moral center? DevonRex Sep 2013 #424

How can you if you have no disagreements with him? dkf Sep 2013 #426

Answer the question like an adult. DevonRex Sep 2013 #430

I do question how you can think you have a moral core and be only supportive of Obama throughout his dkf Sep 2013 #434

So now you're afraid to answer. Learn from Rex above. don't weasel around it. DevonRex Sep 2013 #438

Actually I need to thank you for opening my eyes to the mysterious hatred Rex Sep 2013 #444

Leave me alone, Rex. You have done enough damage to me today. DevonRex Sep 2013 #446

Oh my gosh...please don't think anyone is mad at you or hates you or anything like that. dkf Sep 2013 #450

... DevonRex Sep 2013 #454

Good vibes to your son and your family. dkf Sep 2013 #456

'm sorry your feeling that way Vanje Sep 2013 #460

Vanje, DevonRex Sep 2013 #464

you had a 200+ post in meta detailing a thousand ways you were a right winger and you have the dionysus Sep 2013 #475

Well, clearly, it's because everybody else is wrong. nt bemildred Sep 2013 #272

Well, when you put it that way Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #280

Am I now an official Bogglehead? ananda Sep 2013 #281

Great question - thanks for posting. bluedigger Sep 2013 #300

There are two issues here. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #305

You have a point. bvar22 Sep 2013 #326

I was thinking about that last night and this morning. MuseRider Sep 2013 #332

If a Group uses their "privileges" to suppress criticism, dissent, ... bvar22 Sep 2013 #335

I agree. MuseRider Sep 2013 #349

I blame Obama. antiquie Sep 2013 #307

Because some people are really intolerant. Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #315

You mean like the BOG? Phlem Sep 2013 #355

No. that group is there for a specific purpose that anyone can choose to ignore Pretzel_Warrior Sep 2013 #360

Oh I see Phlem Sep 2013 #375

Because "BORG" was already taken. L0oniX Sep 2013 #323

LOL... Nailed It! bvar22 Sep 2013 #330

Not sure about the US but bog is UK expression for toilet. dipsydoodle Sep 2013 #338

To Americans a bog would be a wet area like a peaty marsh. Jesus Malverde Sep 2013 #350

LOL! That's what I thought about the first time I saw BOG on DU. snappyturtle Sep 2013 #455

Thank you so much for your kind words dipsydoodle. DevonRex Sep 2013 #399

how did those who voted for this President twice but don't always agree with with him 100% magical thyme Sep 2013 #369

Simple. A small group says that there shall be no criticism of PBO, R. Daneel Olivaw Sep 2013 #372

You're getting to know DU quite well. L0oniX Sep 2013 #415

I dunno. It just worked out that way. Iggo Sep 2013 #395

That group reminds me of a high school clique. Vashta Nerada Sep 2013 #402

Message hidden by jury decision. L0oniX Sep 2013 #420

Message hidden by jury decision? Why can I still reply to it? Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #447

the freepers definitely DID do that to Bush grasswire Sep 2013 #451

IMO the cult of personality has divided DU a lot ...not on facts so much as it has on... L0oniX Sep 2013 #472

fact v. fantasy, yes. nt grasswire Sep 2013 #473

I can't speak for everyone else, but for me it was smarmy condescension. corkhead Sep 2013 #412

I heard they were going to call it Spirochete Sep 2013 #418

Wasn't it because they wanted a criticism-free zone? polichick Sep 2013 #431

I think you are on to something. Rex Sep 2013 #433

Not so sure I agree with your figuring work there, Rex. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #436

Wrong your echo chamber is just fine and intact. Rex Sep 2013 #437

A DU safe haven group operating like a safe haven group is not hypocrisy. Bolo Boffin Sep 2013 #448

It's not an epithet. Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #442

When they start complaining that Obama is a fascist neocon dictator baldguy Sep 2013 #458