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liberalhistorian

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52. But even in the case of jobs with
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 11:03 PM
Sep 2013

a "fiduciary consideration", there should be a consideration given to the context of less-than-great credit ratings. There's a difference between bad credit due to irresponsibility, mismanagement, theft, deliberately opening credit accounts and running up bills you have no intention of paying, etc., etc., and bad credit due to circumstances beyond your control, especially in the case of medical bills, job loss, divorce, illness and disability, identity theft, filing of false/inaccurate information, malicious filing of liens (saw it happen many times in my previous profession, a lot more than you'd think, and such liens are given just as much credence as legitimate liens, with no consideration as to their credibility), etc. A HUGE difference. Unfortunately, the fucking credit bureaus don't give a shit and make no effort at providing any context in their reports, and most employers aren't going to make any effort at figuring out the context either.

The one thing people can do, including, perhaps, the OP's daughter, is to tell employers upfront about potential issues with credit reports and make an effort to explain the context. That actually does work some of the time, and many employers appreciate the honesty of the applicant. However, in the current employer's market, it might not work as often as it normally would.

And I am off the strong opinion that it should not even be permitted to include any medical bills on credit reports. None, period. It should be absolutely illegal. I'm of the equally strong opinion that most employers do not need to, and should not, run credit reports at all, and it wasn't all that long ago that they never would have even thought of doing so. The credit bureaus, however, saw a great opportunity for increased profit beyond just their usual customer base of bankers and lenders (remember, they're all private and have nothing to do with the government, something that many people don't know or realize), and began marketing their services to employers, insurers, landlords, etc.

They especially zeroed in on employers, crafting elaborate brochures filled with scare tactics about all the horrible legal things that could happen to them if they didn't check credit reports and how they were a perfect indicator of a person's employability and worth as an employee and how anyone with less than perfect credit was generally a worthless bum, etc., etc. I used to work for one of the major bureaus, so I saw this in action in its sales department. Disgusting.

My Congressman JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #1
The law should prohibit discriminatory hiring on the basis of economic status. leveymg Sep 2013 #2
I agree that credit checks should not be allowed as a factor in hiring..... Swede Atlanta Sep 2013 #4
This Liberalynn Sep 2013 #24
"If you can't pay your bills, then you can't have a job" derby378 Sep 2013 #48
The credit bureaus make money each and liberalhistorian Sep 2013 #53
But even in the case of jobs with liberalhistorian Sep 2013 #52
I agree with everything you said. laundry_queen Sep 2013 #58
Just because someone has had a hard time financially, doesn't juajen Sep 2013 #57
Plus one. I'm with you. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #10
+1 L0oniX Sep 2013 #39
30 years of Rush Limbaugh - Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2013 #3
+1 the relentless right wing talk machine has been destroying our country for years Faygo Kid Sep 2013 #6
When are these people going to figure out that Gordon Gekko is not a role model? Brigid Sep 2013 #7
K&R stonecutter357 Sep 2013 #5
It's tough to keep fighting when one's heart is broken. Dems to Win Sep 2013 #8
I would really like to see this letter go viral. BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2013 #9
probably should take discussions on MSNBC hfojvt Sep 2013 #11
Doesn't change the fact that it's fundamentally both cruel and pointless. nomorenomore08 Sep 2013 #37
How in the world can you know that? juajen Sep 2013 #51
which part? hfojvt Sep 2013 #60
First of all, that is NOT true. liberalhistorian Sep 2013 #54
as a childless guy myself hfojvt Sep 2013 #61
“Love to throw the R-bombs around" busterbrown Sep 2013 #59
better save some of those bombs hfojvt Sep 2013 #63
Abortion might be the #1 issue for some Catholics..But as a single issue not much impact. busterbrown Sep 2013 #64
the conservative places I have lived hfojvt Sep 2013 #66
Looks like "those evil Republicans" aren't the only... 99Forever Sep 2013 #69
I am so sorry. I understand why your heart is broken. sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #12
K&R avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #13
Thanks for the well thought out letter. russspeakeasy Sep 2013 #14
KICKING THIS. calimary Sep 2013 #15
Those quotes are from The Bible? Who knew? nikto Sep 2013 #42
And as far as I know, Jesus did not ask folks Lifelong Protester Sep 2013 #45
K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2013 #16
It does hurt. So many people are in a tough spot at this time Autumn Sep 2013 #17
I am just livid - absolutely livid rurallib Sep 2013 #18
Good article in the NYT about employers using credit screening octoberlib Sep 2013 #19
It is basically discriminatory because we all know how discrimination is rampant in the credit kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #31
That's despicable. I feel for your daughter. nt octoberlib Sep 2013 #35
I hope we can get some in the media to pay attention to this and some more in Congress. nt kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #32
I am so sorry MissDeeds Sep 2013 #20
No Need to Apologize Liberalynn Sep 2013 #22
I am so sorry. Liberalynn Sep 2013 #21
Sorry, kelliekat. I've been poor and it's just a soul-sucker. Especially when, like your daughter toby jo Sep 2013 #23
I used food stamps Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #25
Greed does seem to be the operative factor. merrily Sep 2013 #26
It will never become law. Don't worry. andtheBeast Sep 2013 #27
Don't be so sure about that. If the president can sign off on chained CPI totodeinhere Sep 2013 #30
Obama still hasn't killed SS. Despite the "rumors". andtheBeast Sep 2013 #33
From Whitehouse.gov totodeinhere Sep 2013 #34
ccpi had a poverty threshold joshcryer Sep 2013 #44
you certainly do not stand alone Rider3 Sep 2013 #28
I feel for your daughter. May God bless her and may her fortunes be turned around. n/t totodeinhere Sep 2013 #29
The gleeful "kick 'em while they're down" attitude in Congress is nauseating DFW Sep 2013 #36
I am very sorry about your daughter and this part of your OP made me cringe -- TBF Sep 2013 #38
You and your family are in my heart. oldandhappy Sep 2013 #40
America is dead.. riverbendviewgal Sep 2013 #41
We let "Christian Dominionists" infiltrate our Government. These results were expected. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #43
You need not apologize Lifelong Protester Sep 2013 #46
K&R and posted to Facebook eom LiberalElite Sep 2013 #47
My state is really white and our guys Womack, Griffen and Cotton BlueToTheBone Sep 2013 #49
The corporate thugs are empowered because they have not been held accountable Jefferson23 Sep 2013 #50
I'm so sorry. NealK Sep 2013 #55
Sane states have banned the practice of blanket credit checks for potential employees. Gormy Cuss Sep 2013 #56
How sad. Sorry to hear about your daughter's problems. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #62
K&R ReRe Sep 2013 #65
WOW!!! Thanks fellow DUers for all your kind words and suggestions. I never dreamed so many would kelliekat44 Sep 2013 #67
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #68
If people are hungry, feed them. wildeyed Sep 2013 #70
The growing use of credit ratings by employers and housing creates a new debtor's prison suffragette Sep 2013 #71
Giving you a big hug. BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #72
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