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Douglas Carpenter

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Tue Sep 17, 2013, 11:33 PM Sep 2013

Do you believe public opinion expressed through a public outcry sometimes affects public policy? [View all]

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Yes, it does not always work on every issue. But sometimes a public outcry alters public policy
11 (79%)
That is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. Anyone who suggest that government leaders might on some occasions alter their policy because of a public outcry cannot be taken seriously. They are a joke.
2 (14%)
Peanut oil is perfect for deep frying homemade french fries.
1 (7%)
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there are post right now mocking the idea that political leaders might respond to a public outcry Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #1
Dammed if ya do, dammed if ya don't. Rex Sep 2013 #4
I assume you are talking about my thread Sheepshank Sep 2013 #73
they did not say ANYTHING OF THE SORT-- here is the verbatim quote you quoted Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #89
Not just the heading in the OP to which I linked Sheepshank Sep 2013 #101
I was just thinking Skittles Sep 2013 #2
so the civil rights movement, the labor movement, the anti-Vietnam war movement had no affect on Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #5
I stopped paying attention to those nitwits on DU Skittles Sep 2013 #6
I think the difference is Whisp Sep 2013 #16
is it possible that when internet posting translates into letter writing and phone calling and other Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #17
I'm sure it has some effect Whisp Sep 2013 #18
I'm sure public outcry against further military engagements in the Middle East would Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #23
I think pre Iraq war was probably the loudest and most voices Whisp Sep 2013 #26
it doesn't always work or work fast. The first protest against the Vietnam War took place at the Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #28
70% of Americans supported the Iraq Invasion believing the lies about Iraq being connected sabrina 1 Sep 2013 #46
I believed the lies. *Today* I know Bush was going to go to the UN & Cheney didn't let him. Sunlei Sep 2013 #62
They do keep count those calls, letters, emails and petitions. (WH petition website also works) Sunlei Sep 2013 #60
So... you are now insinuating that the people against the bombing or Summers are drinking cui bono Sep 2013 #38
I'm gathering that they have a very different view of what is the appropriate role of the citizenry Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #40
why do you think I want to 'win you over?' Whisp Sep 2013 #45
Oh, I don't think you want to win me over, that's for sure. The point is, you should be trying cui bono Sep 2013 #65
How very authoritarian of you! or is it Stasian? I forget... Whisp Sep 2013 #66
That's not at all the gist of my post, but if it makes you feel better to name call go ahead. cui bono Sep 2013 #69
oh, did I call you a name? Whisp Sep 2013 #74
Thank you for proving my point. The fact that you do it in such a juvenile way cui bono Sep 2013 #75
really, I wasn't calling you any names. Whisp Sep 2013 #76
What makes you think I'm upset? n/t cui bono Sep 2013 #84
oh! Now I recognize you. You are this guy: Whisp Sep 2013 #91
And what do you think that proves? cui bono Sep 2013 #95
It proves a few things...but it confirms a whole lot else Sheepshank Sep 2013 #103
Show me where I did that and where I came off bitter. cui bono Sep 2013 #107
Yes, I should ask you to mentor me on being mature. Whisp Sep 2013 #77
I think you assume too much tazkcmo Sep 2013 #52
Of course. But I am talking about a particular kind of DUer Whisp Sep 2013 #53
There are plenty of both types. tazkcmo Sep 2013 #55
yah, partisanship on a Democratic forum is so unfair. Whisp Sep 2013 #58
And your true intentions shine through. tazkcmo Sep 2013 #59
and so do yours. Whisp Sep 2013 #61
Mine was to agree with you. tazkcmo Sep 2013 #63
You've just decided that they do nothing in real life. You actually have no idea what they do IRL. cui bono Sep 2013 #67
When you hear consistent bagger talk Whisp Sep 2013 #68
So you don't know then. Why did you say that you did? n/t cui bono Sep 2013 #70
You do know you are dealing with a BOG host don't you? That should explain much. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #96
I know. I made an honest and legitimate attempt to get them to discuss democracy cui bono Sep 2013 #98
That's why ignore is a good thing. Why waste your time responding to them. They are not worth it. L0oniX Sep 2013 #99
no, you didn't make an honest attempt Sheepshank Sep 2013 #104
No, I asked a valid question to get a real response and all I got was hatred and nonsense. cui bono Sep 2013 #108
DERP! Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #79
you got a piece of brocolli, or something stuck in your teeth... Whisp Sep 2013 #80
Urp. Jackpine Radical Sep 2013 #81
How fucked up is it when Progressives on a DEM Sheepshank Sep 2013 #102
self del Skittles Sep 2013 #109
Rarely nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #3
I like to think so. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2013 #7
I'm going to start a thread about that peanut oil bullshit. rug Sep 2013 #8
well here is the story - Bobby Flay on French Fries Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #100
I predict some conspicuously missing names Union Scribe Sep 2013 #9
I figured out some time ago that the Fox News nuts don't understand what a liberal western democracy Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #12
+1 Marr Sep 2013 #20
Well if it does, would it not undermine treestar Sep 2013 #10
ow. Whisp Sep 2013 #19
the banksters do have a lot of power - but when counterbalanced by an engaged public Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #27
People believe the POTUS listened to them treestar Sep 2013 #44
money has always had a great deal of influence in politics. Everyone knows that. But Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #85
So what does the public outcry mean? treestar Sep 2013 #87
this is basic to democracy. It is how we in the tradition of liberal western democracy think Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #88
Certainly. Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #11
I'm just a little bit surprised to discover on a liberal forum there are people who think issue Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #13
It's easy to get discouraged at the pace of change, Uncle Joe Sep 2013 #14
Pressure from a mob rarely creates good policy. baldguy Sep 2013 #15
Right. Because the American public isn't "a mob." DirkGently Sep 2013 #22
Perhaps you should remember what happened after 9/11 & rethink your response. baldguy Sep 2013 #24
Perhaps you should remember Civil Rights and suffrage DirkGently Sep 2013 #30
Suffrage took 50+ years. Civil rights has taken 70 yrs and counting. baldguy Sep 2013 #33
So what's your definition of "mob rule" then? The amount of time it takes for them to get their way? cui bono Sep 2013 #39
You know how terrible your analogy is, right? DirkGently Sep 2013 #90
And you're trying to equate Obama and the Bush Regime, as if there was no difference. baldguy Sep 2013 #93
What? Who mentioned Bush -- who are even you talking to? DirkGently Sep 2013 #94
it was not the mob that passed the Patriot Act and Invaded Iraq. It was the government Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #34
Bush's fascist policies & his imperialist debacle was supported overwhelmingly baldguy Sep 2013 #36
well yes it was the government manipulating the people - not the people petitioning the government Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #37
"Fascism occurs when the mob makes the rules, not in spite of it. " Turborama Sep 2013 #71
The anti-Obama crowd here would have us believe these guys are running the current adminitration. baldguy Sep 2013 #92
those of us who are part of the tradition that believes in liberal - mixed economy - western Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #25
How come supposed liberals who claim to be opposed to fascism baldguy Sep 2013 #29
I don't know what you are talking about. But participatory democracy and the people speaking out Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #32
Me too tazkcmo Sep 2013 #54
I remember when the Third Way propaganda woo me with science Sep 2013 #31
Third Way is the Democratic version of the Tea Party Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #56
+1 f'kin A n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #97
Only when it's really obvious. OnyxCollie Sep 2013 #21
I choose to think we make a difference. defacto7 Sep 2013 #35
What the hell is "public outcry"? (nt) Recursion Sep 2013 #41
This: Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #50
Syria. n/t intheflow Sep 2013 #42
If you had posted this poll a month ago, many would have felt that government never responds pampango Sep 2013 #43
I think it's rather discouraging and sad that there are many here who are mocking and myrna minx Sep 2013 #47
I don't know if it works 100% of the time. HappyMe Sep 2013 #48
Yes (nt) bigwillq Sep 2013 #49
The Summers thing really burned the folks who wanted him appointed. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #51
yes. Takes years! lots of emails, calls to WH, protest, corruption exposure- here's an example. Sunlei Sep 2013 #57
Maybe a little, but at the end of the day, it has to be a HUGE outcry, and closeupready Sep 2013 #64
I think most of those that would believe otherwise are late bloomers...? kentuck Sep 2013 #72
See....here is a bit of the problem Sheepshank Sep 2013 #105
Sometimes, sure. JoePhilly Sep 2013 #78
The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire etherealtruth Sep 2013 #82
Syria is a good example BKH70041 Sep 2013 #83
Civil Rights Movement, anyone? WinkyDink Sep 2013 #86
...way different than unrelenting psts on DU. Sheepshank Sep 2013 #106
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