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"Real Liberals have patience"...or..."Real Liberals Do It Longer", I think we have a bumper sticker. Safetykitten Sep 2013 #1
Patience is a virtue. bravenak Sep 2013 #2
+1 and congratulations Hekate Sep 2013 #5
Thank you. bravenak Sep 2013 #25
Patience is indeed a virtue Vanje Sep 2013 #40
Never stop working for the good. bravenak Sep 2013 #47
It seems like... nikto Sep 2013 #171
That pretty well covers it, jazz. K/R Whisp Sep 2013 #3
I am also sick of it. LukeFL Sep 2013 #4
Oh, another space on the Waaaaah bingo card! Daemonaquila Sep 2013 #42
Then go get enough votes for your candidate. nt MH1 Sep 2013 #63
perhaps a new bingo game incorporating insults for fellow Dems? Sheepshank Sep 2013 #115
Obama, always pushing from the rear flank, where it's nice and safe. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #175
"Real Liberals have patience." AZ Mike Sep 2013 #6
Welcome to DU BlueToTheBone Sep 2013 #199
Well done jazzimov. sheshe2 Sep 2013 #7
+1234 Jazzimov Hekate Sep 2013 #8
thank you, all! jazzimov Sep 2013 #10
What if Lincoln had run on immediately ending slavery, pro mixed-race marriage, pro integrated... Silent3 Sep 2013 #9
"What's difficult is knowing when patience is a virtue and when patience is a vice." jazzimov Sep 2013 #13
I think I hit the jackpot here Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #17
Yup, Good Post! It's a Judgement Call, and We Elect Our Representatives to Make Those Judgements Skraxx Sep 2013 #97
Lincoln gave his life for something extremely controversial tblue Sep 2013 #187
You have heard the story of Sherman haven't you? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #226
Black and white zipplewrath Sep 2013 #11
Actually I am arguing AGAINST the "black/white" dichoctomy. nt jazzimov Sep 2013 #14
Well, sort of zipplewrath Sep 2013 #60
You made me LMAO... blue14u Sep 2013 #32
He can't hurry up with a republican controlled house. eom Blanks Sep 2013 #169
Im glad you said many snort Sep 2013 #139
Patience is essential Jamaal510 Sep 2013 #12
Only 57% of eligible voters bothered vote in 2012. Down from 62% in 2008 Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #75
that is NOT stopping people from voting..... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #227
Sometimes on this site to disagree with even one of the President's policies... uriel1972 Sep 2013 #15
look at the post immediately following... Sheepshank Sep 2013 #118
You havent the least idea what liberal means. This president has embraced conservatives at rhett o rick Sep 2013 #16
+1 Marr Sep 2013 #19
It might be a generational thing Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #28
I think there's a lot of truth in what you say Skittles Sep 2013 #30
I think that's it - a lot of these young folks today are only familiar with social liberalism And in Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #43
Absolute agreement here. Nice breakdown - Your post should be its own OP. Thanks! Melinda Sep 2013 #67
well said G_j Sep 2013 #68
Make this an OP... FredStembottom Sep 2013 #107
Exactly. Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #44
+ 1000000 n/t NRaleighLiberal Sep 2013 #191
I remember that time... WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #195
Do you want to bet that most of those that support Obama are just young? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #228
in real life I do no know any rabid supporters Skittles Sep 2013 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Vanje Sep 2013 #37
I think you're right. Maedhros Sep 2013 #185
^^^this^^^ blue14u Sep 2013 #33
Very few people in 2013 American politics aren't liberal. And THAT's a problem. HughBeaumont Sep 2013 #69
The OP didn't say he was liberal. joshcryer Sep 2013 #71
Then why are they speaking for them? Dawgs Sep 2013 #114
??? joshcryer Sep 2013 #173
Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #98
That's it? You have nothing but ridicule? nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #106
Ridicule??? I Worship You! You Sage of Liberalisness! I Succor at the Font of Your Liberal Wisdom!! Skraxx Sep 2013 #111
Your repeated ridicule indicates desperation. Best of luck to you. nm rhett o rick Sep 2013 #122
Oh Please Save Me From My Desperation, Your High Holy Liberalness! Skraxx Sep 2013 #123
Totally uncalled for. libdem4life Sep 2013 #157
Long Overdue! Skraxx Sep 2013 #158
If your were drowning sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #181
You shouldn't doubt your worthiness. sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #178
Before getting off your kness, sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #180
You, aparently, don't know what liberal means, either. cheapdate Sep 2013 #197
Interesting. Maybe the OP also doesnt understand liberal, as he claims liberals are patient. Did rhett o rick Sep 2013 #202
"Liberals are patient" is a dubious claim. cheapdate Sep 2013 #205
I assume you know that the SCOTUS said that when Obama refused to defend DOMA that made rhett o rick Sep 2013 #213
What is that supposed to be a riddle? cheapdate Sep 2013 #216
The SCOTUS said that Pres Obama made it harder for them to overrule DOMA. Yet some want to give him rhett o rick Sep 2013 #219
That's as ridiculous as blaming Dr. Martin Luther King cheapdate Sep 2013 #222
............. Hotler Sep 2013 #239
A Liberal would accept Conservative ideas rather than trying jazzimov Sep 2013 #259
Real liberals would have known from the beginning that Obama wasn't a liberal. baldguy Sep 2013 #18
The word "Pragmatic" AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #23
The dismissal of the pragmatic is used discount Obama's accomplishments. baldguy Sep 2013 #24
Nice try AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #45
Lily Ledbetter... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #229
Huh? AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #250
asked for an example.....that was one... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #251
Are you sure you're posting in the right thread? AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #252
but but but.. he is blue14u Sep 2013 #34
I must be a real liberal then Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #36
Exactly the same for me.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #46
Well, I do think a lot of people let their eyes prejudice them. MADem Sep 2013 #108
Bullshit. The man looked to be a liberal in many ways before becoming President. Dawgs Sep 2013 #121
"but as all of you know....we may not get there immediately" VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #233
Uh, they had both in 2008 & 2009. n/t Dawgs Sep 2013 #242
don't understand your response... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #244
He certainly didnt campaign as a "pragmatic centrist". rhett o rick Sep 2013 #125
I don't remember him saying he was a far left Liberal either... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #230
Obama is and always has been a Chicago Machine Democrat Maedhros Sep 2013 #186
The "Obama = Bush" meme is exactly the kind of horrendous bullshit the OP is criticizing. baldguy Sep 2013 #190
I didn't say that Obama = Bush. Maedhros Sep 2013 #207
If you that's some sort of important distnction, then you're too far gone to reason with. baldguy Sep 2013 #211
I'm not saying Obama is a Neocon. Maedhros Sep 2013 #215
You're saying Obama is a Neocon. baldguy Sep 2013 #258
Foreign policy is one aspect of a Presidential Administration. Maedhros Sep 2013 #263
See post #215 Maedhros Sep 2013 #254
AND you are still wrong.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #232
See post #215 Maedhros Sep 2013 #255
see post you have lost your mind. did we invade syria or not? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #264
Syria was one of a number of foreign policy incidents. Maedhros Sep 2013 #267
A neocon would have just gone into Syria to start another middle east war VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #231
See post #215 Maedhros Sep 2013 #256
This is a really fine piece of writing, jazzimov Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #20
Yes a Modern President Did Inherit a 2 Front war and an Economic Mess. BillyRibs Sep 2013 #21
Look up "No true Scotsman" nt DRoseDARs Sep 2013 #22
and his actions have lost my trust hfojvt Sep 2013 #26
I become pretty miffed when I read lexington filly Sep 2013 #27
This President has done more for Liberal values than any other President in history? Not quite! Ford_Prefect Sep 2013 #29
The ACA ranks right up there. Whisp Sep 2013 #38
If Obama did it Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #51
What health care. It's a sop to the insurance industry. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #55
o my, you still using that old and tired line? Whisp Sep 2013 #94
ACA is about health INSURANCE. hobbit709 Sep 2013 #100
You realize the ACA was a Republican plan, right? LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #90
you know, if my child was born with a horrible sickness Whisp Sep 2013 #93
Yes, Clinton was an outstanding Republican President LondonReign2 Sep 2013 #104
There are a lot of people, here on DU Whisp Sep 2013 #105
Obvious chronic case of ODS VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #234
Actually, It Was A Plan Romney Signed, But it Was Mostly Created by the Dem Controlled State Skraxx Sep 2013 #145
"Like many types of bullshit, what you say has a grain of truth distorted beyond comprehension" Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #155
Please Point it Out The BS Then, Thanks! Skraxx Sep 2013 #156
It's not health care it's insurance. kiva Sep 2013 #162
ask someone here on DU that has been helped by it Whisp Sep 2013 #163
I'm not saying they shouldn't accept that help, kiva Sep 2013 #165
It provides access to health care that wasn't there before for many. Whisp Sep 2013 #166
Some Americans will, others will not. kiva Sep 2013 #168
That nice free Mammogram I got recently considering Republicans are busy shutting down Plannned VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #235
Hospitals have given free mammograms for years kiva Sep 2013 #248
Yes, real change takes time. We have a hard time with that. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #35
But Martin Luther King said 'Justice delayed is justice denied'. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #77
By the time Martin Luther King spoke those words, African Americans had been without mountain grammy Sep 2013 #86
When you advocate slow change you advocate continued injustice. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #117
I am not and never have advocated slow change. I know the results.. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #120
You explained it a very few words. Thanks lumpy Sep 2013 #193
"I make not make it to the promised land..." VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #236
of course, that about sums it up. mountain grammy Sep 2013 #271
Give me an example of something on which you disagreed with Obama. Marr Sep 2013 #39
I'm very progressive fadedrose Sep 2013 #41
"I feel for him, because he cares about us." PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #50
LOL! SammyWinstonJack Sep 2013 #76
Great post Power To ThePeople. MuseRider Sep 2013 #159
I'm about to launch into "I Don't Know How to Love Him" again. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #194
So Obama doesn't have personal monetary concerns, I'm glad he doesn't. I hope he doesn't lumpy Sep 2013 #204
I never said he caused those things PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #208
In effect, and in a sense you were deriding the poster who said Obama cares about us. lumpy Sep 2013 #220
The poster put Obamas "suffering" on a pedestal PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #223
Suffering? Who used that word other than you? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #238
More like PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #247
So who was your past Liberal President Hero... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #237
I never made any claim of that type. n/t PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #246
Good post, fadedrose. Good post. AverageJoe90 Sep 2013 #257
Insurance mandates, domestic spying, multiple proposals to destroy social security... Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #48
Permanent lies for the message board, permanent lies for the message board, permanent lies for the Kolesar Sep 2013 #56
what bs is this post? n/t PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #64
Hi MichaelKelley Sep 2013 #49
Hi Mike! Welcome to Democraticunderground NBachers Sep 2013 #52
Your Obama apologies are wearing thin. bowens43 Sep 2013 #53
+1000 djean111 Sep 2013 #54
No kidding. 99Forever Sep 2013 #59
+1 It's like endless kindergarten recess leftstreet Sep 2013 #83
Please don't try to define to us what a "Real Liberal" is. Th1onein Sep 2013 #57
+ 1 gazillion Caretha Sep 2013 #81
"First of all, I don't always agree with the man." Stupefacto Sep 2013 #58
DU rec...nt SidDithers Sep 2013 #61
The points you use to support Obama aren't very relevant to the major criticisms of him muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #62
Yes, you heard me, you are anti-progressive. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #65
Then what is all the plonking and Skidmore Sep 2013 #268
Who are YOU to define what a "real liberal" is? cali Sep 2013 #66
Frankly I'm grateful for this OP. Puglover Sep 2013 #72
I think the best thing Barack Obama has done as president LWolf Sep 2013 #70
First paragraph is definitive of the flaws in your point of view and of the source of Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #73
^^^Nailed IT!!!^^^^ bvar22 Sep 2013 #136
The OP of course does not have a response Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #225
Jesus fucking christ you people are boring Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #74
He failed. mick063 Sep 2013 #78
Can't wait for you to run and do a better job... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #240
"We are against forcing our opinions on anyone." MNBrewer Sep 2013 #79
Spying... worsening crack down on whistle blowers... How's our freedom going? MrMickeysMom Sep 2013 #80
Next candidate I back I am going to vet their ardent exploiters or supporters prior to Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #82
Thank you a million times, bluenorthwest. FredStembottom Sep 2013 #110
This MuseRider Sep 2013 #160
Yep somewhere between 40-65 posters Puglover Sep 2013 #269
"Justice delayed is justice denied." Martin Luther King Jr. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #84
It looks to me like your definition of liberal is in question. Do you think Sen Sanders is liberal? rhett o rick Sep 2013 #85
2009 called. Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #87
And ponies. We need ponies, stat! n/t QC Sep 2013 #88
I was hoping to run into you here! Starry Messenger Sep 2013 #89
Good seeing you as well! QC Sep 2013 #91
He's new ... takes a little time to get up to snuff. nt TBF Sep 2013 #103
Its more useful to be FOR something, than against everything. IronLionZion Sep 2013 #92
thanks jazz, you've coralled them all in one place. Whisp Sep 2013 #95
Their "he's done nothing big" argument is so astonishingly selfish. great white snark Sep 2013 #96
I know what you mean~ sheshe2 Sep 2013 #206
I make screen shots of the posts that bring out the ODS crowd. macspanicattack Sep 2013 #188
There Are All Types of Liberals, Including One's With No Patience, So I Would Say: Skraxx Sep 2013 #99
I heard your argument sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #183
That's just your 'opinion'. lumpy Sep 2013 #209
Actually, sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #221
"I may not get to the Promised Land..." VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #241
He said that they day before sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #249
lorem ipsum VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #265
No, it took guts. sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #266
I have huge respect and admiration for our guy libodem Sep 2013 #101
"real change TAKES TIME" - except when it doesn't TBF Sep 2013 #102
So are you advocating Skidmore Sep 2013 #137
The poster appears to be observing, not advocating leftstreet Sep 2013 #142
Please re-read my post - TBF Sep 2013 #164
LOL. bvar22 Sep 2013 #109
Well said. Lives are saved by doing what works, not by ideology afflicted with rigor mortis. freshwest Sep 2013 #112
" battling the image of the unconstitutional "Unitary Executive" dictatorship"? grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #113
or LIBYA--how fast they made themselves forget! MisterP Sep 2013 #128
+1000 very nicely put Sheepshank Sep 2013 #116
K&R Bobbie Jo Sep 2013 #119
Enthusiastic K&R BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #124
There are so many people... shenmue Sep 2013 #126
Obama's hard-right veer into neo-conservatism has worn thin. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #127
^^^ that is EXACTLY what the OP was talking about... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #243
One quibble jeff47 Sep 2013 #129
I think you are confusing patience with results with patience for timid strategy markpkessinger Sep 2013 #130
"Liberal" - Methinks that word doesn't mean what you think it means quinnox Sep 2013 #131
Once again. All he needed to do was NOTHING, and the Bush tax cuts would have expired. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #132
Once again. Amnesia sets in among the inhabitants of the Clint Eastwood "empty chair" world BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #133
Professional Slinking 101 Whisp Sep 2013 #143
Uh, no. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #153
The bush tax cut would have expired for all taxpayers Gothmog Sep 2013 #144
sometimes I wonder if some people around here are disappointed that he didn't strike Syria WI_DEM Sep 2013 #134
It's probably not the group you think it is. MNBrewer Sep 2013 #135
keep wondering.. frylock Sep 2013 #196
Now THAT is some serious ODS. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #203
well said my friend SCantiGOP Sep 2013 #138
What a FANTASTIC POST!! Thank you! rivegauche Sep 2013 #140
I also like the original post Gothmog Sep 2013 #141
You have expressed my thoughts exactly. Grateful for Hope Sep 2013 #146
K&R to the zenith jazzimov!!!!!!!!! rury Sep 2013 #147
I personally like and respect Our President. mstinamotorcity2 Sep 2013 #148
Obama the Reagan lover...... BlueJac Sep 2013 #149
One's personal feelings of like or dislike for the President are irrelevant. Maedhros Sep 2013 #150
and yet here you are, like many, trying to "force" an opinion on us stupidicus Sep 2013 #151
That's unfortunate people can 'force' their opinions on you. Whisp Sep 2013 #154
take it up with the OPer stupidicus Sep 2013 #182
Sort of tired of that whole thee dimensional chess master meme, myself. . . Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #152
Two words for you: Trans-Pacific Partnership HomerRamone Sep 2013 #161
Nice OP. What a trollish piece of flamebait. xocet Sep 2013 #167
But they put so much effort into the childish insults for Obama and his supporters. great white snark Sep 2013 #170
Sadly we have pretend liberals here. Rex Sep 2013 #172
We have propaganda here - a constant, unrealistic influx of personas spouting the corporate line, woo me with science Sep 2013 #200
"This President has done more for Liberal values than any other President in history." blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #174
I love President Obama! Mahalo, jazzimov! Cha Sep 2013 #176
Damn Straight,,, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #177
... Cha Sep 2013 #179
Not really relevant to the thread MFrohike Sep 2013 #212
Oh, it's quite "relevant". In spite of all the obstruction from assholes.. Cha Sep 2013 #218
Not quite MFrohike Sep 2013 #260
KICK.. Cha Sep 2013 #262
"Real change" doesn't take time. The NC GOP has destroyed... WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2013 #184
+ a zillion....n/t NRaleighLiberal Sep 2013 #192
+1000! nt adirondacker Sep 2013 #210
Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #189
cool story, bro frylock Sep 2013 #198
i would add that the collective 'left' cannot say it has obama's back as long as there is certainot Sep 2013 #201
Was this productive? MFrohike Sep 2013 #214
Turned out very productive for me Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #245
Well, there you go MFrohike Sep 2013 #261
yes, put fud on alert uponit7771 Sep 2013 #270
I keep hearing this MFrohike Sep 2013 #272
K & R Bigredhunk Sep 2013 #217
real liberals doesn't have a nice ring to it... sounds too much like real uhmuricans. georgew Sep 2013 #224
K & R Scurrilous Sep 2013 #253
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