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raouldukelives

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At some point, pacifism becomes part of the machinery of death. [View all] Sand Wind Sep 2013 OP

When has it ever been tried? HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #1

+1000 Tien1985 Sep 2013 #6

Rwanda (nt) jeff47 Sep 2013 #29

Non involvement, not pacifism. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #71

So then what would have been the pacifist response to Rwanda? n/t Daniel537 Sep 2013 #100

IIRC, it arose so quickly that any response would have been too little, too late. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #102

Indian independence. LWolf Sep 2013 #32

That wasn't a US effort, though. nt HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #70

No, but "when has it ever been tried" LWolf Sep 2013 #90

Yes, I was referring to the US. HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #95

MLK AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #96

Not US govt... HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #101

Doesn't have to be US government to work AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #103

We can't control others - it can't be tried until they cooperate treestar Sep 2013 #107

that's Orwellian speak.... mike_c Sep 2013 #2

Exactly! scarletwoman Sep 2013 #10

If I could recommend a post, I'd recommend your's. Vashta Nerada Sep 2013 #44

Strait to the point. zeemike Sep 2013 #53

If I am a pacifist and I watch somebody else get killed because I refused to intervene, mythology Sep 2013 #56

:^) grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #60

Ayup. quakerboy Sep 2013 #61

Without the clever. What a piece of excrement. n/t Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #85

+1 nt Zorra Sep 2013 #91

I don't see what's so "peaceful" about sitting back and allowing Daniel537 Sep 2013 #99

This is absurd and bullshit. morningfog Sep 2013 #3

bilge. KG Sep 2013 #4

I'm more worried about explaining how we did nothing about climate change... polichick Sep 2013 #5

it's not 'pacifism' to resist the counterproductive and destabilizing force of our military bigtree Sep 2013 #7

Kill in the name of peace! This is the stupidest thing I've ever read. backscatter712 Sep 2013 #8

+ a million. lol quinnox Sep 2013 #12

Well it is from the washintonCOMpost where shit piles up and stinks a lot. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #27

That it is! n/t backscatter712 Sep 2013 #40

I love that clip! Vashta Nerada Sep 2013 #46

When you post utter codswallop on DU, people will tell you about it Warpy Sep 2013 #9

Never heard of codswallop, but got the context. Sounds kind of British, but better than some libdem4life Sep 2013 #14

codswallop ...iszat when 2 cows French kiss? L0oniX Sep 2013 #28

we're in the middle of about a billion wars Enrique Sep 2013 #11

How can we talk about pacifism, when our leaders didn't even want to run their idea by the UN??? reformist2 Sep 2013 #13

So...we should waste time running smack into Russia's veto? (nt) jeff47 Sep 2013 #30

Yes. It would be an excellent way to shame Russia and China for their complicity. reformist2 Sep 2013 #33

And how, specifically, does shaming Russia stop Syria from using chemical weapons? (nt) jeff47 Sep 2013 #39

If and or until sulphurdunn Sep 2013 #58

R#5 & K provisionally for open-mind/ (other things I can't think of right now) n/t UTUSN Sep 2013 #15

War gets to that point way sooner. rug Sep 2013 #16

the pacifist problem Autumn Sep 2013 #17

Oh for fuck's sake... Hissyspit Sep 2013 #18

+1 OFFS L0oniX Sep 2013 #26

War is peace. Death is life. Black is white. Slavery is freedom. Th1onein Sep 2013 #19

Makes as much sense as fucking for virginity! n/t backscatter712 Sep 2013 #20

The Softer Side of Neoconservatism? dairydog91 Sep 2013 #21

What we're faced with in Syra isn't another Iraq. It's another Rwanda. baldguy Sep 2013 #22

If you want to beat the war drums mick063 Sep 2013 #23

Few problems here. jeff47 Sep 2013 #31

Not once mick063 Sep 2013 #34

Libya wasn't 10 years ago. jeff47 Sep 2013 #37

"No, we're the only people who are aghast who have sufficient military power to pull off a strike." mick063 Sep 2013 #49

One of the larger piles of bullshit I've seen on DU. Looks like it has magic mushrooms on it too. L0oniX Sep 2013 #24

I like Sebastian Junger, but it sounds like he's been embedded too long. n/t DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2013 #25

"Kill For Peace" by the great FUGS! GReedDiamond Sep 2013 #35

That's the stupidest fucking pile of shit I've read all day. n/t 99Forever Sep 2013 #36

Neither war nor peace, but non-violent struggle: LWolf Sep 2013 #38

That only works if the government is not willing to slaughter the opposition jeff47 Sep 2013 #41

Exactly. Nt Sand Wind Sep 2013 #43

No. LWolf Sep 2013 #47

now that sounds more like it. I'm with you LWolf. liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #62

.... SammyWinstonJack Sep 2013 #42

That's a violent OP title. Precisely Sep 2013 #45

Not fighting for Saudi Arabia and Al Qaeda = pacifism? eridani Sep 2013 #48

I guess so. Another bunch of words strung together to defend the truedelphi Sep 2013 #80

The US has no standing whatsoever to be judging any other country on the use of WMD eridani Sep 2013 #81

Great article.. jessie04 Sep 2013 #50

I'm usually as liberal as it gets and favor the current possible diplomatic solution.... rynestonecowboy Sep 2013 #73

Since time began, there have been dictators that kill to stay in power.... jessie04 Sep 2013 #75

War doesn't solve anything either. We are a dispicable species. There is not much that can liberal_at_heart Sep 2013 #51

few examples here and there ?? jessie04 Sep 2013 #52

Bullshit. Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #54

Clearly, Sand Wind is a person with an agenda. Maedhros Sep 2013 #55

I've been reading all her posts...No agenda at all. jessie04 Sep 2013 #82

"Peace is War"! ROFL grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #57

++1 nt raouldukelives Sep 2013 #89

Just think if we would have joined in with the Brittish and French after Dunkirk how many lives demosincebirth Sep 2013 #59

We need to send a message, to any evil countries that use chemicals Dragonfli Sep 2013 #63

Send them an Instagram. rug Sep 2013 #65

I need to hear screaming to be convinced the pacifists are being defeated, the evil countries Dragonfli Sep 2013 #69

We should clean our own house before JEB Sep 2013 #66

"Well, you see, honey..." uberblonde Sep 2013 #64

Well, then we're defining "humanity" funny when 100k dead isn't a crime, but 1.4k is. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #67

at no point did this individual define "pacifism". would be interested to see what that individual niyad Sep 2013 #68

Right, good question... Sand Wind Sep 2013 #72

What a contemptible pile of horse shit! n/t markpkessinger Sep 2013 #74

This is not that point. nt Deep13 Sep 2013 #76

Im trying to think of someway of replying to this double speak article LostOne4Ever Sep 2013 #77

That's why "codswallop" crawled off my keyboard Warpy Sep 2013 #78

You seem to have a consistent theme going here. Le Taz Hot Sep 2013 #79

Where DO these idiots come from? sendero Sep 2013 #83

as opposed to launching missile strikes that may not "be particularly effective" fishwax Sep 2013 #84

DU is becoming more disgusting by the day. SecularMotion Sep 2013 #86

from the war-pimping Washington Post. marmar Sep 2013 #87

fishwrap. KG Sep 2013 #88

not sure even the local fishwrap would publish this piece, which is really saying something. niyad Sep 2013 #92

Sebastian Junger is certainly not a "war-pimp". Daniel537 Sep 2013 #97

This guy equates the rejection of unilateral bombing with "having no effective response to the... Faryn Balyncd Sep 2013 #93

Wow, did a rabbit hole just open? Is Ayn Rand back from the dead? Safetykitten Sep 2013 #94

Maybe they should explain to the kids why there is so much poverty and malaise Sep 2013 #98

Just because missles aren't being lobbed, that doesn't mean nothing is being done. notadmblnd Sep 2013 #104

Right AgingAmerican Sep 2013 #105

Yes, in fact, here it seems to mean only the US not being treestar Sep 2013 #106

and fucking becomes an instrument of virginity! Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #108

Internationalism is not Isolationism. Pacifism is not the "machinery of death". Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2013 #109

More war mongering from the OP Vinnie From Indy Sep 2013 #110

Wow... ocpagu Sep 2013 #111