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In reply to the discussion: Like President Clinton, Obama will strike without UN or Congressional approval IMHO [View all]arely staircase
(12,482 posts)47. I think it would play out like this
the libertarian GOPers would support impeachment (but they are less than half the GOP House caucus.) Anti-war liberal Dems who went along with those GOPers on the Amash Amendment regarding the NSA would never go along with impeachment, regardless of their thoughts on military action in a million years.
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Like President Clinton, Obama will strike without UN or Congressional approval IMHO [View all]
arely staircase
Sep 2013
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If he got congressional approval would that mean that congress would have declared the war?
Little Star
Sep 2013
#1
I know but if they do approve this time does it mean that they are the ones declaring war?
Little Star
Sep 2013
#5
There would then not be one - the President is the only one who can commit troops
karynnj
Sep 2013
#59
The vote in the house hadn't taken place but the senate had already voted yes.....
Little Star
Sep 2013
#6
Probably not, but the circumstances were different so he was able to get by with it
Bjorn Against
Sep 2013
#14
It would be more than committe hearings, the House would almost certainly vote to impeach
Bjorn Against
Sep 2013
#20
I believe that is only the case if there is a direct threat to our national security
Bjorn Against
Sep 2013
#23
I don't think there is any such requirement. If there is it would be "as determined by the
arely staircase
Sep 2013
#24
Just because it was violated in the past does not mean it could be violated this time
Bjorn Against
Sep 2013
#33
it isn't a law. it is a congressional resolution, actually. I thought it was a law, but I was wrong
arely staircase
Sep 2013
#51
Nor did Congress explicitly say No before the fighting began in any of those cases either
Bjorn Against
Sep 2013
#54
I'm not proposing anything. I am predicting that, like President Clinton in Kosova,
arely staircase
Sep 2013
#63
A No vote on authorization means no bombing, if Obama bombs anyway he would deserve impeachment
Bjorn Against
Sep 2013
#67
Well if the White House does not interpret it that way they will face impeachment
Bjorn Against
Sep 2013
#70
I haven't addressed "outrage around the world". So I don't know how I am underestimating it.
arely staircase
Sep 2013
#71
Bush and Cheney and their Junta should be standing trial for Iraq for this very reason. - nt
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#34
Agree fully with your analysis. There is no double-jeopardy in impeachment either. If they
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#46
Look, I've voted Democratic in every election since 1980. That's meant holding my nose for
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#80
you may consider it, but I would lay money that not a single Dem. congressperson would.
arely staircase
Sep 2013
#81
Republicans have the majority in the House (where the impeachment would commence). A Dem
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#82
OK. We're debating the chances of a hypothetical, so I guess for now we'll just have to
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#85
They'd have perfect political cover to impeach him if he proceeds to attack without approval.
David__77
Sep 2013
#35
I sort of agree w/1914 analogy. And it's why, at this point, we should stay away.
KittyWampus
Sep 2013
#44
Will President Obama ignore all the atrocities committed by the rebels in the meanwhile? Civil
HardTimes99
Sep 2013
#37
If that is the case, which I don't disagree that is a strong possibility, it will be illegal under
morningfog
Sep 2013
#64
Obama Has No 'Intention' To Strike Syria If Congress Says No (NPR - 6 September)
struggle4progress
Sep 2013
#66