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Tx4obama

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92. There's a problem with that idea...

Fri Sep 6, 2013, 11:17 PM

Sep 2013

In order to get the U.N. to do something they have to have a unanimous vote.

And Russia/Putin is good buddies with Assad/Syria.

And since Russia is a voting member of the U.N. there will NOT ever be a unanimous U.N. vote regarding Assad/Syria.

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Give Obama a Fucking Break [View all] Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 OP

Quick !!! Duck !!! Get down now !!! jessie04 Sep 2013 #1

very classy Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #3

I was joking. jessie04 Sep 2013 #8

we need to stick together ! Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #52

is your post serious? He is president with advisors out the wazoo. if he roguevalley Sep 2013 #94

Anybody Aerows Sep 2013 #142

i can't agree more roguevalley Sep 2013 #148

Try the sarcasm thing once in awhile Rebellious Republican Sep 2013 #76

"Constructive, non-military ideas" don't exist in an empire of war Corruption Inc Sep 2013 #2

well, that really added to the discussion Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #4

it actually DID if you would really read it Skittles Sep 2013 #57

We lost Superman's cape Generic Other Sep 2013 #74

I read it (twice)....they are pretty much saying - no way, right? Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #80

you really do need a drink Skittles Sep 2013 #86

Fuck, I need a drink Aerows Sep 2013 #112

Sanctions, Blockades, Bin Laden HIS ass, Smoke don't Drink !! orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #180

I said this earlier - this should be it's own post. tecelote Sep 2013 #186

Take four minutes to watch this vid & you'll understand what the poster meant. CrispyQ Sep 2013 #212

Hopefully there can be some progress during the Summit and I agree with giving Obama a break Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #5

The summit has concluded and there was no progress. I will give him a break when he calls off totodeinhere Sep 2013 #77

Revenge bombing from the heart whatchamacallit Sep 2013 #6

And nothing says we don't give a shit.. jessie04 Sep 2013 #15

Yes we give a shit but this is a problem for the international community to solve, not us totodeinhere Sep 2013 #79

So why was the US govt totally okay with Saddam using chemical weapons against his own people and kath Sep 2013 #89

We and the rest of the UN countries should have acted then. It was wrong not to. phleshdef Sep 2013 #108

You're seriously blaming the UN for not acting??? polly7 Sep 2013 #117

Any time a sanctimonious Republican prick opens his or her HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #199

Where did Saddam Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2013 #210

Would cluster bombs meet with your approval? GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #174

Apparently White Phosphorus and thermite are acceptable also warrant46 Sep 2013 #183

Well Naplam was just made illegal" to use on civilians by Barack Obama...However its still legal to Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #221

1,400 people died from the chemical attack. tecelote Sep 2013 #178

Did they? MNBrewer Sep 2013 #185

You can't give a bully a dozen roses and say play nice ..... MindMover Sep 2013 #71

Israel is welcome to take action Aerows Sep 2013 #116

Petition to end Geneva Conventions since you believe US shouldn't blm Sep 2013 #192

non-military? no idea. now who should be dealing with this? Arab League. KittyWampus Sep 2013 #7

And the last thing we need christx30 Sep 2013 #95

Well shit some people here say they already Iliyah Sep 2013 #144

Then I don't understand the rush christx30 Sep 2013 #175

How about the US fess up to our imperialism PowerToThePeople Sep 2013 #9

I like that Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #22

I'd like a full head of hair, Woe !!!! excuse me, pigs are flying past... orpupilofnature57 Sep 2013 #182

+ Infinity! - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #200

+ Infinity X Infinity! nt marew Sep 2013 #213

Oh good god ... polly7 Sep 2013 #10

Good analogy. eom Blanks Sep 2013 #21

Good Analogy? What? Makes not sense at all, to me Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #24

Exactly. It doesn't make sense. Blanks Sep 2013 #31

+1. nt. polly7 Sep 2013 #36

Exactly, Polly. n/t Aerows Sep 2013 #120

Ty, Aerows. nt. polly7 Sep 2013 #122

I don't get why Aerows Sep 2013 #125

I know, it makes no sense to me at all either. polly7 Sep 2013 #131

Makes as much fucking sense as dropping bombs that are guaranteed polly7 Sep 2013 #34

Why? Did people get all combative and ignore the question being asked in the Twilight Zone? Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #51

Weddings are Especially Good Targets to Kill Entire Families HumansAndResources Sep 2013 #107

It's ridiculous Aerows Sep 2013 #127

Not a shock! n-t Logical Sep 2013 #113

I don't think it's a good analogy, either. AverageJoe90 Sep 2013 #149

...and bombing them is the only way to get them to stop? eom Blanks Sep 2013 #194

Is that supposed to be a reference to the Branch Davidians of Waco? JVS Sep 2013 #157

No. nt. polly7 Sep 2013 #191

Strange coincidence. JVS Sep 2013 #197

I guess, as I never once considered WACO. nt. polly7 Sep 2013 #198

Just because I have no idea what we should do in Syria does not mean we should bomb them. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #11

Good points, for sure. but, surely the best minds, in unity against Assad's atrocities can Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #28

That assumes there is something to come up with... Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #48

Unity against his atrocities is a good idea. progressoid Sep 2013 #81

Oh my word Aerows Sep 2013 #128

See, you lose me, and probably a lot of other people when you talk about Al-Assad's atrocities AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #138

You know why JFK was so well regarded? Nevernose Sep 2013 #84

JFK and RFK almost alone against the war pigs! - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #202

I agree with giving Obama a break! n/t RKP5637 Sep 2013 #12

I think Obama is really concerned about leaders using gas against their own people. lumpy Sep 2013 #13

true dat Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #29

Which is why he is Bombing Saudi Arabia next Week, right? HumansAndResources Sep 2013 #109

Read my sigline GeorgeGist Sep 2013 #176

Yeah, I'm sure he's super torn up about 1% or less of the casualties of this war. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #141

So far, he's doing OK. kentuck Sep 2013 #14

"He wants to stop atrocity " - what, with a time machine? Warren Stupidity Sep 2013 #16

Well, I hope you are not right about the motives. I do agree if we bomb them it opens up a Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #32

It doesn't have to be a conspiracy. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #143

another motive questionseverything Sep 2013 #207

Sorry, it's absolutely necessary to see such things as lying, a "sell out", caving to the MIC... Silent3 Sep 2013 #17

... YvonneCa Sep 2013 #56

Since you asked... nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #18

Wow. That is a great post. Thank you! Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #19

I am hoping you are truly in the cabinet and are just so brilliant that you can multi-task nt Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #35

Nah, they would not let anybody who does not play nice with the power structure nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #62

You asked for non military suggestions and then senseandsensibility Sep 2013 #205

The surprising thing is that these suggestions are relatively unrecognized as an alternative to bomb dkf Sep 2013 #83

I fear it is because people are suffering from beaten wife syndrome nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #91

.. Itself a Form of Conditioned Helplessness, Which Leads to the Milgram Experiment Results HumansAndResources Sep 2013 #119

Yup...I was wondering if this was the electricity shock experiment and it is. dkf Sep 2013 #126

Absolutely, we are a herd animal nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #132

Yes and No - Humans have Very Diverse Possible Mental-States HumansAndResources Sep 2013 #147

You're right... grillo7 Sep 2013 #106

Indeed Aerows Sep 2013 #136

You just hit it out of the park, my friend Aerows Sep 2013 #114

+ Infinity! - nt HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #203

Is that what you said about Bush? Coyotl Sep 2013 #20

Hell no - Like night and day. Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #38

Thanks for your post, Laura. PBO is speaking from Cha Sep 2013 #23

Don't waste your time. This place is way, way past DevonRex Sep 2013 #25

We never loved him. Voting for him twice was just a ruse to bring him down. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #37

You never hated him. And you should be above that. DevonRex Sep 2013 #55

This is a great post. Thank you... YvonneCa Sep 2013 #63

If ANY president acted after an AUMF was publically requested and rejected Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #65

Thanks for that. Just Saying Sep 2013 #96

heh. SammyWinstonJack Sep 2013 #66

This has nothing to do with the pics and videos of the kids who were gassed NightWatcher Sep 2013 #26

Wow....just...wow. jessie04 Sep 2013 #30

if we are claiming to give a shit about kids or humanitarian disasters NightWatcher Sep 2013 #46

This one did happen nadinbrzezinski Sep 2013 #98

There is some pragmatic straight talk Aerows Sep 2013 #134

We'd only be killing terrorists disguised as children, not ACTUAL CHILDREN! Why HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #206

k&r... spanone Sep 2013 #27

We should flood the area around Syria with aid, not bombs. Mr.Bill Sep 2013 #33

Yup, that will stop Assad from using chemical weapons. jessie04 Sep 2013 #41

So what's your plan? Mr.Bill Sep 2013 #47

A lot less than letting Assad run rampant with chemical weapons. jessie04 Sep 2013 #54

And how many people would that be? Mr.Bill Sep 2013 #70

I am hoping that when the congress votes this down that Obama will stand up Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #43

Then work through the U.N. and... SHRED Sep 2013 #39

+1000 Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #45

There's a problem with that idea... Tx4obama Sep 2013 #92

I suggest swiping Assad's $1.5 billion fortune, sending the money to help the refugees Dems to Win Sep 2013 #40

i agree MFM008 Sep 2013 #42

There is so much atrocity in this country bigwillq Sep 2013 #44

Keep pressure on UN Sec. Council + Take Assad to The Hague + Humanitarian Relief 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #49

Constructive ideas? Here are two eridani Sep 2013 #50

Excellent Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #59

THAT is an excellent idea. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2013 #82

I Agree, but TPTB Do Not. HumansAndResources Sep 2013 #130

Contructive solutions take time and effort and empathy over ego. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #53

what about MFM008 Sep 2013 #60

Have You Seen the Libyans / Yeminis / Pakistanis / ... Bombed To Death on YouTube? HumansAndResources Sep 2013 #133

And have you seen pecwae Sep 2013 #170

It is hard for me to wrap my head around putting "wreckless language" up against Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #68

Amen. IsItJustMe Sep 2013 #58

Romney Isn't President - No More "Good Cop Bad Cop" Psychology Tricks HumansAndResources Sep 2013 #135

Okay deal. Rex Sep 2013 #61

I am against any bombing of Syria Aerows Sep 2013 #140

Here's a thought: Let the U.N. decide, for once... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #64

That means you're leaving it up to Russia and China. And they back Assad. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #87

......... polly7 Sep 2013 #90

The moderate rebels need the ability to house POWs.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #100

That article is already dated..... SunSeeker Sep 2013 #102

Assad was Winning the Civil War - "Untouchable" Unless Gas Was Used - and, Surprise, Gas Appears HumansAndResources Sep 2013 #139

Agree completely, nt. polly7 Sep 2013 #146

That was before chemical weapons were used. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #93

Russia and China don't appear moved by the fact that chemical weapons were used. nt SunSeeker Sep 2013 #99

They will with enough pressure. Not to mention the Saudis and Iran.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #101

I wish you were right. Russia and China don't give a shit. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #103

Oh,...okay,..so we should bomb everyone. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #104

No, nor is that what Obama is saying. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #150

He has fallen into the DC trap of having to back up his "Red Line" comment.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #154

He said the red line was set by the world, and he is right. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #159

You must be new to the DC nonsense. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #161

I see you have nothing of substance to add. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #164

Tell you what,... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2013 #167

Is Saudi Arabia 'bending' on Murdering LGBTs? HumansAndResources Sep 2013 #145

And? Scootaloo Sep 2013 #152

Under the UN Security Council veto rules, one nation gets to call the shots... SunSeeker Sep 2013 #156

Oh yes, I'm "good with that" Scootaloo Sep 2013 #162

Got it. Dead is dead. Look forward not back. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #163

I don't think killing more Syrians is the answer Scootaloo Sep 2013 #166

Obama wants to take out the chemical weapons artillery, not target civilians. SunSeeker Sep 2013 #168

What Obama wants and what will happen are not necessarily synonymous Scootaloo Sep 2013 #169

The Security Council Consensus Rule Prevents WWIII - Nothing More HumansAndResources Sep 2013 #155

well here is my idea for what it is worth. zeemike Sep 2013 #67

I have really never heard of a good enough reason to not do what you say. It is absolutely Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #73

Use the billions we spend on keeping them over there zeemike Sep 2013 #85

Bullshit. It's a continuation of the Bush/neocon strategy of perpetual war, as noted by PNAC, et al. grahamhgreen Sep 2013 #69

Rec AnotherMcIntosh Sep 2013 #160

K&R JohnnyRingo Sep 2013 #72

We all want to stop atrocities. But that doesn't mean bombing the hell out of country totodeinhere Sep 2013 #75

Saw a lady on tv tonight giving McCain hell tiredtoo Sep 2013 #78

If Obama wanted a fucking break maybe he shouldn't have run for fucking president. GOTV Sep 2013 #88

Thank you. woo me with science Sep 2013 #129

it's the rebels using the gas, ya'know... MisterP Sep 2013 #97

I'd love to give him a break, but eissa Sep 2013 #105

Drop some Aerows Sep 2013 #110

Brilliant ! Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #171

Sorry, no. Obama does not get a fucking break when he is about to kill in our name. morningfog Sep 2013 #111

We arm the world. mick063 Sep 2013 #115

non military options exist martigras Sep 2013 #118

I'm feeling for him, but he has a way out by dropping the military options and Cleita Sep 2013 #121

Freezing the assets of the Syrian leadership would be a big hit bhikkhu Sep 2013 #123

I think Russia might unblock if Putin gets offered something he wants in Cleita Sep 2013 #188

Gladly. Arm or leg? SwankyXomb Sep 2013 #124

There are two very simple, very useful options. AtheistCrusader Sep 2013 #137

I do not support war. How hard is that? Scootaloo Sep 2013 #151

That is just crazy talk. You are really suggesting that any of us who hate war just as much Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #215

Well, that's exactly what I was seeing! Scootaloo Sep 2013 #220

People don't agree with your idol. Live with it. Or not. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2013 #153

Give ME a fucking break! cui bono Sep 2013 #158

as in medicine - above all do no harm - in this case exacerbating a very complicated ethic/religious Douglas Carpenter Sep 2013 #165

Why? Seriously, why? Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #172

that is so sad. To be that disenchanted that it doesn't sound like anything would Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #214

What's sad is adults believing that fantasy and wishful thinking are valid substitutes for reality. Egalitarian Thug Sep 2013 #216

It's funny.. I think the exact opposite..I see fantasy as people who think everything is Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2013 #218

Some constructive, non-military ideas... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #173

More people have killed themselves over the American economic debacle.. sendero Sep 2013 #177

Sorry, but DU has turned into a lot of 1 issue voters. B Calm Sep 2013 #179

ONE HUGE ISSUE Carolina Sep 2013 #189

If there was ever a single issue to vote on, perpetual war would be a good one to start with. mick063 Sep 2013 #201

It's not about Obama. It's about escalating an armed conflict... devils chaplain Sep 2013 #181

I have a serious riversedge Sep 2013 #184

I will NOT Carolina Sep 2013 #187

People who need ... 99Forever Sep 2013 #190

No. n/t leeroysphitz Sep 2013 #193

For some people, IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT OBAMA. LWolf Sep 2013 #195

+1. The cult of personality is a dangerous thing. n/t devils chaplain Sep 2013 #196

Seriously. If the sun failed to come up tomorrow, QC Sep 2013 #208

This message was self-deleted by its author malletgirl02 Sep 2013 #209

Forget it. DU has become a full-blown anti-Obama hate site. baldguy Sep 2013 #204

No President Deserves a Break When it comes to war. malletgirl02 Sep 2013 #211

thank you Liberal_in_LA Sep 2013 #217

Jesus! PLAIN ENGLISH. sibelian Sep 2013 #219