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In reply to the discussion: Syrian "gas rockets" appear homemade and incapable of flying 5-10 miles to target. [View all]leveymg
(36,418 posts)19. Did Assad fire them from the roof of the Presidential Palace?
Assad did not set them off - there is no intercept that ties any national command authority authorization, which is why everyone doesn't want to be involved with the punative strike.
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leveymg
Sep 2013
OP
that the delivery systems fr the gas appear to be homemade and incapable of reaching targets
arely staircase
Sep 2013
#9
ok that seem to contradict the unsourced assertion and picture of some unidentified thing in your OP
arely staircase
Sep 2013
#15
Here's a Daily Mail news photo of a UN inspector taking samples near the same type of rocket:
leveymg
Sep 2013
#48
OK and you think it is incapable of reaching more than five miles why? nt
arely staircase
Sep 2013
#50
Ok, you qualified your credentials. Now, tell us how they were all launched from regime-controlled
leveymg
Sep 2013
#130
no bullshit let's not advocate positions I really want to know why you think that thing
arely staircase
Sep 2013
#132
I said accurately. The reason that accuracy is important is that the lethal dispersal area is small
leveymg
Sep 2013
#157
There are 2 types shown there: the long tubes and a rebel propane tank with swept-back fins
leveymg
Sep 2013
#26
A Boeing 747 doesn't "appear" to be capable of flying at all. And yet it does. n/t
pnwmom
Sep 2013
#39
The point is that there is cause to doubt the assertion that they were fired from regime territory
leveymg
Sep 2013
#57
The doubt is raised about the claim the rockets were fired from "regime territory." That claim isn't
leveymg
Sep 2013
#68
I'm pretty sure the "hell cannon" munition is different from the one in these pictures
Scootaloo
Sep 2013
#95
That's not the only source - but, they all show the same type of rocket. See #48.
leveymg
Sep 2013
#43
The unfounded claims of both pro- and anti-intervention are worthless. No help at all in knowing
JDPriestly
Sep 2013
#82
The rush is that the President made a statement and doesnt want to look like a fool
7962
Sep 2013
#102
The Quassam is at least shaped to fly like a rocket. These things are aerodynamic bricks
leveymg
Sep 2013
#112
I have no idea who shot what, and like you am wanting a thorough investigation
Scootaloo
Sep 2013
#141
I'm afraid that unless the Congressional leadership demands an independent accounting, there won't
leveymg
Sep 2013
#143
There also was never a followup report from rebels caught in Turkey with chems...
L0oniX
Sep 2013
#8
This too- Turkey arrests Syrian Nusra Front militants with Sarin and heavy weapons
Catherina
Sep 2013
#124
from where? whom? I see another picture of a random object taken somewhere on the planet earth.
arely staircase
Sep 2013
#32
See revised article, photo of UN weapons inspector with same type of rocket below:
leveymg
Sep 2013
#51
Which is why there's something wrong with the either the State Report or the reports of rockets used
leveymg
Sep 2013
#17
These things don't have sophisticated aerosol dispersants. Probably not effective
leveymg
Sep 2013
#33
That is not true. Sarin has to be in aerosol form to be effective outside of a small impact area.
leveymg
Sep 2013
#83
The opposition has used Serin and is fully capable of manufacturing and using these rockets.
leveymg
Sep 2013
#148
You have it backwards. The burden is on the prosecution to make the case that a crime has been
leveymg
Sep 2013
#155
The evidence is not convincing. The court is public opinion. DU is part of that.
leveymg
Sep 2013
#158
Right, the Saturn 5 ROCKET that took us to the MOON, didn't have a guidance system. OMG, thanks!
grahamhgreen
Sep 2013
#97
That is not at all obvious. The Syrian Defense Minister wasn't informed - he's the highest chain of
leveymg
Sep 2013
#36
You have got to be kidding, you are relying upon the Syrian defense minister to deliver
MindMover
Sep 2013
#109
or... or, I can trust neither intel community because they done all they can to lose trust
uponit7771
Sep 2013
#139
I did not mean that all intelligence communities believed the BS about Iraq ...
MindMover
Sep 2013
#145
"thousands of pictures and first hand accounts" None of them have any proof that it was Syrias
uponit7771
Sep 2013
#147
It doesn't even spin for stabilization. You can tell by looking at it that it is not accurate
leveymg
Sep 2013
#45
The State Dept report states several times "regime-controlled." That's not a minor point.
leveymg
Sep 2013
#64
The point is not the absolute range of the rocket, it's the accuracy of delivery and its utility
leveymg
Sep 2013
#71
The point is the "evidence" and conclusions in the Report are not really convincing on their face.
leveymg
Sep 2013
#66
I read that. It's unsourced or anonymous source. We do know however that Israel is the
leveymg
Sep 2013
#74
There are thousands of other even more credible sources of information and intelligence ..
MindMover
Sep 2013
#75
I'm not favoring anyone - I want the Admin. to release all the evidence so we can make our own
leveymg
Sep 2013
#77
I'm sorry, not going to war without solid evidence this time. Didn't you learn from the Iraq War?
leveymg
Sep 2013
#89
First, I learned that making up shit to purport your mission is not solid evidence ....
MindMover
Sep 2013
#90
The thing is, without a sophisticated aerosol dispersant, Sarin isn't really very effective at long
leveymg
Sep 2013
#76
There would have had to have been many hundreds of these crude rockets launched. We have yet to see
leveymg
Sep 2013
#87
Each targeted area would require a dozen or more rockets for many fatalities- artillery would kill
leveymg
Sep 2013
#105
I do not agree with the anal ysts, sarin is much more lethal in confined areas such as cities
MindMover
Sep 2013
#107
It's a clear gaseous vapor that's slightly heavier than air. Tends to sink, not rise.
leveymg
Sep 2013
#110
No, I'm saying they probably weren't all launched from regime-controlled territory as the US report
leveymg
Sep 2013
#134
If Sarin gas weapons were really easy to make, every gangster and lunatic would have them.
leveymg
Sep 2013
#80
making it more likely done by a nation state with international connections
arely staircase
Sep 2013
#135
It's highly concentrated insecticide. Not that sophisticated, and easy to mimic so that forensics
leveymg
Sep 2013
#154
No, that is not a BM-14. It's a US-made anti-mine fuel-air explosive rocket used at closer
leveymg
Sep 2013
#103