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In reply to the discussion: Pres. Obama: Why are you pushing the Koch Supported Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)? [View all]AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)65. "maybe the people who really run things didn't want a Romney win." I'm sorry. But No. Just no.
Sorry, but it was pretty fucking obvious from the get go that TPTB didn't want Obama to win. Mid-level people like Sheldon Adelson were throwing practically endless bundles of cash at Romney and yet, even with Rove and yet another attempt at election fraud, they STILL lost. Why would they WASTE all that effort?!
Or maybe Rove had good reason to believe he was working for the PTB, but he got outsmarted. Which would mean I agree with you.
I'm sorry, but that's not in agreement with me, or the facts of the matter for that matter. I'm sure they would LIKE us to believe that they were in total control the whole time, as, after all, it'd help feed their illusions of unlimited power, but when you look at things from the correct angle, you'll understand, as I do, that this was a crucial crack in their "Armor", so to speak. This is OUR time to keep pushing for the changes that need to be made, and not of defeatism(remember what happened to the environmentalist movement!).
I hate to come off as harsh, but this kind of stuff you've written is not only not contrary to the truth but it is, unfortunately, even HARMFUL to those of us fighting the good fight, especially those with a far greater impact than I.
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Pres. Obama: Why are you pushing the Koch Supported Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)? [View all]
TheBlackAdder
Aug 2013
OP
I'm not convinced of that. Remember when their henchman Rove threw a huge hissy fit last year?
AverageJoe90
Aug 2013
#40
Yes and I agree. They were only going to give Obama 4 years. Point taken. nm
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#41
"They" controlled both candidates so they were not worried. "They" also control most
Dustlawyer
Aug 2013
#57
"maybe the people who really run things didn't want a Romney win." I'm sorry. But No. Just no.
AverageJoe90
Aug 2013
#65
Rove is just a workhorse. He is not even liked by Bush Sr. 'They' are way above the likes
sabrina 1
Sep 2013
#70
I dont disagree. What I said was TPTB figured after Obama, the country would accept a Republican in
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#48
What we will find is that the one that wins will appoint (?) the same intelligence leaders, the
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#62
True. They did actively try to steal 2012. Perhaps there's 2 levels of "they".
cui bono
Sep 2013
#75
It looks like launching disastrous treaties for American workers run in the Clinton family blood.
avaistheone1
Aug 2013
#13
I wish that were possible. We are a small minority. There are lots of DU'ers that will
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#42
At one point, I actually believed they were serious. Now, Congress Inside Trades on a Daily Basis.
TheBlackAdder
Aug 2013
#58
Next time, let's vet our candidates for high office a bit first, okay???
blkmusclmachine
Aug 2013
#15
The same reason he is trying to abolish public ed through his flak Arne Duncan.
duffyduff
Aug 2013
#39