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pnwmom

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61. You do understand that the US doesn't have the intelligence staff with the requisite

Fri Aug 30, 2013, 07:17 PM

Aug 2013

language skills to instantly translate every "stream" of information coming from every possible source in every hot spot around the world, right? That often, as Sybil Edmonds explained after 9/11, translators only translate these streams AFTER an incident occurs?

According to the article you posted, the "analysis" of the streams occurred after the fact, not beforehand. All the terms are in the present tense: "assess" "reveal," etc.

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Friday News Dump? U.S. Had Intel on Chemical Strike Before It Was Launched [View all] kpete Aug 2013 OP

yikes. very disturbing. alas, not terribly shocking. cali Aug 2013 #1

More "disturbing" than the actual chemical attacks? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #53

The whole thing is shocking Aerows Aug 2013 #73

So lets strike afterwards? DJ13 Aug 2013 #2

it also would have been illegal. nt bunnies Aug 2013 #4

any experts (incl President Carter) thinks Obama will break the law with the strikes afterwards too DJ13 Aug 2013 #8

I dont know what happened there^ DJ13 Aug 2013 #10

Whoa, that's weird. NealK Aug 2013 #98

Indeed. Weird Aerows Aug 2013 #109

NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #114

So, what did I do? DJ13 Aug 2013 #116

Looking at the source code... NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #120

Thanks, but I doubt I will duplicate it DJ13 Aug 2013 #122

And Republicans would be drooling over impeachment. bunnies Aug 2013 #11

That figure is an outlier KamaAina Aug 2013 #16

How could that have happened? JDPriestly Aug 2013 #94

There are some evils that you cannot prevent. DJ13 Aug 2013 #113

And how many people would be alive and in their own homes today if America HAD NOT... TheMadMonk Aug 2013 #102

It appears to be illegal afterward, too, woo me with science Aug 2013 #14

It certainly seems that way. bunnies Aug 2013 #15

Simple- they could have revealed that they knew about it Hydra Aug 2013 #18

hmmm. Yes. Good point. I wonder why they didnt. bunnies Aug 2013 #21

I don't know their cpabilities either Hydra Aug 2013 #29

I just read a post here that sounded like the rebels bobbytrapped the neighborhoods notadmblnd Aug 2013 #34

Geezus. bunnies Aug 2013 #41

Sorry, Aerows Aug 2013 #52

I don't think it is beyond what the rebels are capable of doing notadmblnd Aug 2013 #66

It is nuts all the way around Aerows Aug 2013 #69

We're in agreement there. notadmblnd Aug 2013 #71

They could do what they've already done Aerows Aug 2013 #31

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. This black president can't do anything right. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #7

NYC_escapee Aerows Aug 2013 #107

DU members excepted, I think it's true that he takes more heat than a white guy would. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #110

Amen, my friend, amen Aerows Aug 2013 #112

What do you think would be the outcome of bombing a chemical weapon sites? notadmblnd Aug 2013 #9

I know you didn't ask me Aerows Aug 2013 #106

Yes, the chemicals would be dispersed resulting in more deaths from chemical warfare notadmblnd Aug 2013 #125

And if the US attacked weapons sites beforehand? Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #19

Not by wanting to kill more people after the fact Aerows Aug 2013 #27

I caught this too when I read the "assessment" TomClash Aug 2013 #3

What should we have done? bunnies Aug 2013 #5

Saved the live children? Aerows Aug 2013 #26

well yeah, but my question was how. bunnies Aug 2013 #32

That's my point Aerows Aug 2013 #38

Right. "Humanitarian bombing" bunnies Aug 2013 #46

I agree Aerows Aug 2013 #48

Birth defects from depleted uranium tblue Aug 2013 #93

Yeah. I ran into a ton of those pics earlier... bunnies Aug 2013 #103

I know. Just awful. We owe such a debt tblue Aug 2013 #123

we have and continue to provide millions in non military aid JI7 Aug 2013 #58

I hope we continue to do so Aerows Aug 2013 #59

Are you serious? Orrex Aug 2013 #60

Unfortunately, it wasn't a serious question Aerows Aug 2013 #65

Well... Orrex Aug 2013 #90

Prevented it by reveling that it was going to happen Aerows Aug 2013 #91

How so? Orrex Aug 2013 #115

Asked the rebels to stop it Aerows Aug 2013 #111

Which rebels? Stop it how? Orrex Aug 2013 #117

Nightmarish mess sums it up Aerows Aug 2013 #119

It's possible moondust Aug 2013 #6

Good god. Is this true? woo me with science Aug 2013 #12

K & R AzDar Aug 2013 #13

Where was the screeching of the humanitarian hawks? leftstreet Aug 2013 #17

It's okay if we do it Aerows Aug 2013 #23

CNN just had a convo about this... dkf Aug 2013 #20

Well there's a surprise Aerows Aug 2013 #22

Is there some evidence that the US knew this wouldn't be one of the "usual" smaller-scale pnwmom Aug 2013 #24

Well, I'm sure they are as eager Aerows Aug 2013 #77

Other than that you're being sarcastic, I have no idea what you're saying. pnwmom Aug 2013 #80

I don't think it raises disturbing questions at all. Particularly when you see how stevenleser Aug 2013 #25

like another poster said questionseverything Aug 2013 #35

With what info? That some activity appeared like Syria might use Chemical weapons? stevenleser Aug 2013 #39

so if the world did not believe it questionseverything Aug 2013 #54

See #40 below for another important point. The data may have come in but it was not analyzed stevenleser Aug 2013 #75

You're assuming that the US was "assessing" these streams of info in real-time, pnwmom Aug 2013 #40

So it was politically expedient Aerows Aug 2013 #42

Where in the article does it say that the CIA had done anything more than pnwmom Aug 2013 #51

Oh my Aerows Aug 2013 #57

Why should it be fascinating to you that I used the exact term that the posted article used? pnwmom Aug 2013 #64

Some folks Aerows Aug 2013 #79

some folks pnwmom Aug 2013 #81

And never did Aerows Aug 2013 #83

Are you a child? ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #101

Proud member of the Reality Based Community, are you? Aerows Aug 2013 #104

Awwww.... ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2013 #124

it's what was used in the article JI7 Aug 2013 #78

We all Aerows Aug 2013 #82

So kpete, it's all OUR fault? I'm not surprised you'd push that propaganda. DevonRex Aug 2013 #28

please don't be harshing in kpete, she posts lots of stuff. This is interesting. And Foreign Policy KittyWampus Aug 2013 #36

That is a deliberate misrepresentation of what the paragraph says. DevonRex Aug 2013 #50

I hear ya, Devon. "Friday news dump?" Yeah, Cha Aug 2013 #67

No one knows which side unleashed it Aerows Aug 2013 #43

hey, kpete Aug 2013 #47

No you're not, not when you deliberately phrase your post like you did. DevonRex Aug 2013 #55

from the Government's report kpete Aug 2013 #69

The word "collected" is in the past tense. The words "reveal" and "assess" are in the present tense. pnwmom Aug 2013 #74

I'm sorry, I'm unclear on something. Robb Aug 2013 #30

After - it was a few days ago Aerows Aug 2013 #44

Thank you. nt Robb Aug 2013 #45

Maybe they should worry more about BOSTON!!! daa Aug 2013 #33

This just gets worse and worse for Obama. David__77 Aug 2013 #37

Nowhere in the article does it say that the US had analyzed this info days before the attack. pnwmom Aug 2013 #49

It won't be long now ProSense Aug 2013 #56

That's exactly how it works. Everything is brought together afterward. DevonRex Aug 2013 #62

so the nsa can not stop anything terrible questionseverything Aug 2013 #63

The budget recently came out and it's smaller than most people were guessing. pnwmom Aug 2013 #68

so stop spying on every American questionseverything Aug 2013 #72

They're not. Next? nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #76

He's a LAWYER...he doesn't want his Presidency to Touch Dirt... KoKo Aug 2013 #86

You do understand that the US doesn't have the intelligence staff with the requisite pnwmom Aug 2013 #61

Gee, it seems odd that our language staff would still be at 9-11 levels after years to correct that. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #85

Snowden just leaked NSA and CIA budget figures that were much lower than most pnwmom Aug 2013 #87

Are you seriously suggesting . . . markpkessinger Aug 2013 #92

You obviously have no idea moondust Aug 2013 #97

From reading this week it sure sounds like we do NOT HAVE enough Arabic translators & Israel does KittyWampus Aug 2013 #99

K&R...Same Old Scam...with a Dem Face from Kerry..Nothing to see here... KoKo Aug 2013 #84

Yeah, same old thing. A bunch of DUers pnwmom Aug 2013 #88

Look! It's hard not to given everything going on against what we Voted for... KoKo Aug 2013 #95

Please read the actual article instead of just kpete's interpretation. pnwmom Aug 2013 #96

U.S. Had Intel on Chemical Strike Before It Was Launched kpete Aug 2013 #105

kpete, pnwmom Aug 2013 #108

oooppsie... pangaia Aug 2013 #89

If this is true... NealK Aug 2013 #100

I don't mean to interrupt Aerows Aug 2013 #118

Raccoons are gnarly. They hiss. Even the babies! NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #121

Let me get this straight, they let it happen on purpose? Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #126