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sabrina 1

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4. So that's where the 'mule' term that we saw here on DU came from.
Mon Aug 26, 2013, 03:23 PM
Aug 2013

I had a feeling it was a paid-for smear word, because when they pay for a smear campaign, you ALWAYS see the same words being spread around, whereas if it's just someone's opinion, it rarely goes beyond their own article.

I guess the paid for smear campaign on Snowden, by some 'brilliant' Private Security Employee was to include 'Drug War Language'.

They are so incredibly stupid, as we saw with the smear campaign against Greenwald in the emails that were exposed from HB Gary. They sound like grade schoolers. I hope they are working cheap because some of the money for this comes from our tax dollars and I could do a better job, IF I were a person of zero ethics.

there will always be collaborateurs and quislings. grasswire Aug 2013 #1
Yes, but so-o-o many? 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #21
Greenwald is a "tool" himself. nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #86
An amazing point! Vanje Aug 2013 #101
of whom? nt grasswire Aug 2013 #107
+1000 nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #115
Because, of course, no-one could possible arrive at different conclusions to Ellsberg independently. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #2
Nobody said that there cannot be other conclusions. But Ellsberg is well respected totodeinhere Aug 2013 #27
Thank you. eom 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #32
He's also on the same board leftynyc Aug 2013 #123
Oh that Peoplesview website again. totodeinhere Aug 2013 #134
That's hilarious leftynyc Aug 2013 #136
You are linking to the most bizarre AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #135
Fine - how about these leftynyc Aug 2013 #137
"This kind of arrogance makes me laugh." Maedhros Aug 2013 #39
I imagine all the tools are making up and spewing their different conclusions Zorra Aug 2013 #42
Well, certainly we can all agree that a drone strike on Edward Snowden... Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #87
I can see Ellsberg is already being thrown under the bus U4ikLefty Aug 2013 #3
Someone on DU over the weekend called Ellsberg a 'dickhead,' thereby elevating HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #82
A very descriptive term. RC Aug 2013 #89
So that's where the 'mule' term that we saw here on DU came from. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #4
They didn't do it subtly Hydra Aug 2013 #9
When two pundits use the same off-the- wall terminology, what sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #14
As I've said before, the hyena pack is not interested in engaging in reasonable debate. Maedhros Aug 2013 #47
I think it's mostly #2 Hydra Aug 2013 #52
I believe there are some who are just diehard partisans. Maedhros Aug 2013 #61
You see, Greenwald's partner is from South America, that's why "mule" is funny! MNBrewer Aug 2013 #74
I dunno. If Greenwald is in a gay marriage like the article indicates (?) Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #100
K&R forestpath Aug 2013 #5
Greenwald's outright lies and lies of omission have been documented. They are undeniable. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #6
DU's resident Cartographer declares Ellsberg "wrong" and "sad" LeftyMom Aug 2013 #8
I'll stake my 1 map vs. Catherina's catalog of errors any day. And that you haven't bothered KittyWampus Aug 2013 #15
I guess one doesn't need to be a journalist to be a tool eom 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #23
But the evidence you provide for Greenwald's supposed "lies" is not compelling. Maedhros Aug 2013 #51
eggsactly. nashville_brook Aug 2013 #81
:headpat: It's nice that you're trying. LeftyMom Aug 2013 #83
Post some Greenwald lies. It's not as if lots of us haven't been asking for proof for months DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #10
You got that right. Vanje Aug 2013 #44
Well, there's apparently some kind of map that is supposedly "evidence" Maedhros Aug 2013 #53
Well, if they've been documented, how about something to sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #11
Easiest lie to post- Greenwald saying Miranda was held because he was his spouse. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #17
1) pure opinion frylock Aug 2013 #22
Yes he was. And that you would accept Greenwald's lie about Miranda being detained solely KittyWampus Aug 2013 #24
linky? frylock Aug 2013 #25
why would he trust their lawyer? frylock Aug 2013 #58
So you admit he lied. LOL! Which is it. Either he was offered a lawyer or he wasn't. He either had KittyWampus Aug 2013 #71
no, i didn't admit he lied. i asked why he would trust their lawyer.. frylock Aug 2013 #73
perhaps a link to said documentation is in order? frylock Aug 2013 #20
Look! A screwdriver! Fuddnik Aug 2013 #31
LOL! blackspade Aug 2013 #117
"and I mean that in every sense of the term"... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #7
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #12
Daniel Ellsberg. American patriot. Autumn Aug 2013 #13
Yes, and Toobin, hypocrite beyond belief, who himself stole classified sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #18
Toobin is beyond disgusting. Autumn Aug 2013 #19
This is amazing. Vanje Aug 2013 #57
American patriot who is woefully uninformed regarding Greenwald and his serial lies. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #26
That's the opinion you have. I'm fine with that. My opinion differs. Autumn Aug 2013 #29
We are still waiting for you to document those alleged lies. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2013 #33
You must have drawn the "Keep posting that Greenwald is lying" item Maedhros Aug 2013 #54
Several people now have asked you for a list of these lies you speak sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #110
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratsForProgress Aug 2013 #28
Hey, I looked at your web site. Autumn Aug 2013 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author DemocratsForProgress Aug 2013 #38
Very welcome. Again. Autumn Aug 2013 #40
How is it diffferent to others like Old Elm Tree or Progressive Independent? Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #124
BINGO! Puglover Aug 2013 #126
I'd be calling a bad bingo on that one... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #128
There isn't any. Puglover Aug 2013 #129
Oops. I need to read slower! Sorry... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #131
Exactly Violet. Puglover Aug 2013 #133
Wow... Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2013 #138
Maverick was a troll, rightfully TS'd. I believe NanceGreggs is still a member Vanje Aug 2013 #149
It isn't any different. Autumn Aug 2013 #130
Wow, what a lovely little board you have there LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #48
an "oasis" of authoritarian apologists for embracing a Surveillance & Security State. Sieg Heil! 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #56
An Oasis of TS'd zombies Vanje Aug 2013 #64
Some are still here, "alive and well" MNBrewer Aug 2013 #79
They do have a nice, real time chat room. Autumn Aug 2013 #60
That explains a lot. n/t QC Aug 2013 #112
Ah Memories! Vanje Aug 2013 #113
One of my favorite days of being a moderator! Puglover Aug 2013 #127
Just imagine...a place where Ole Mav is the house intellectual. QC Aug 2013 #132
This message was self-deleted by its author Vanje Aug 2013 #59
You know so little about Ellsberg, your arrogance and ignorance are what's really incredible. If you HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #85
Tell Bob Cesca zentrum Aug 2013 #16
Cesca is one of the most willfully and pridefully dishonest people I have ever encountered Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #102
Ellsberg: "Journalists Who Attack Glenn Greenwald Are 'Tools'..." railsback Aug 2013 #30
It's really sad that one of the great patriots of our time is called something totodeinhere Aug 2013 #34
Ellsberg compared his own actions to Manning's railsback Aug 2013 #45
Read his memoirs. Fuddnik Aug 2013 #49
Ellsberg didn't document dump railsback Aug 2013 #55
Ellsberg didn't have access to 21st Century Digital Technology, bvar22 Aug 2013 #63
LoL! Wow. Manning said he didn't know the details of what he released railsback Aug 2013 #66
Ellsberg took what he could carry. bvar22 Aug 2013 #70
Ellsberg released what he worked on railsback Aug 2013 #72
That's not the end of the story. Yes his methods were slightly different than the methods totodeinhere Aug 2013 #65
So, Ellsberg is the new Howard Beale railsback Aug 2013 #69
Hahaha. Shows how little you know about the actual Pentagon Papers. Ellsberg didn't have to HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #88
Look! A wrench! Fuddnik Aug 2013 #35
Like I said upstream 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #41
There we are. He was under the bus, but now Ellsburg is under railsback's clown car. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #36
Wow. Ellsberg is now under a clown car? railsback Aug 2013 #43
What an ignominious fate. Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #98
Didn't a guy named Railsback play Charles Manson in "Helter Skelter"? Fuddnik Aug 2013 #46
Steve Railsback who is also in the very wonderful film 'The Stuntman' Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #103
Thanks for smearing an American hero. blackspade Aug 2013 #118
Coming from the 'Love All Things Greenwald/Snowden/Manning' crowd railsback Aug 2013 #119
How do you figure that? blackspade Aug 2013 #121
knr - Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #50
bvar22 AND Ellsberg: bvar22 Aug 2013 #62
your a bad boy/girl Phlem Aug 2013 #67
"Everyone who disagrees with me is a tool" is a stance for ideologues and true believers: struggle4progress Aug 2013 #68
yeah, he sounds like he's channeling greenwald and groupies. Cha Aug 2013 #76
Devastating argument! Vanje Aug 2013 #106
Yes, the gloves have been off for quite awhile on this issue. 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #77
Alternet headline a bit misleading, and Ellsberg didn't call everyone who disagrees with him a tool. deurbano Aug 2013 #78
Except for those who can read he clearly uses the actions of individuals as standard for calling Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #104
" ideologues and true believers" Vanje Aug 2013 #105
I missed the part where Greenwald was 100% pure and totally above any scrutiny or criticism... Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #75
Nice straw man you have there MNBrewer Aug 2013 #80
I'm at least glad the NYT cut a deal to get access to some of the data Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #84
And reporters at the NYT don't have some of the same 'baggage?' blackspade Aug 2013 #120
Since former NSA Executive Thomas Drake is the person who first "dumped" the docs on this program, Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #90
This whole Glenn Greenwald wank-fest is ignoring the fact that Barton Gellman broke the story Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #91
Interesting stuff. I wonder if Gellman even WANTS any credit for breaking story 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #93
At one point Washington Post itself came out with piece asking if Greenwald is liable for espionage. Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #95
Isn't the Post kind of 'wanting it both ways' 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #97
It seems to me it wants Greenwald to take all the credit, even while its own journalists assiduously Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #99
Of course NO reporter can "guarantee" that the managing editor or publisher won't kill a story Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #94
Yeah, but knowing the Post's current editorial leadership, it likely would have been buried. Leopolds Ghost Aug 2013 #96
Hahaha owned LittleBlue Aug 2013 #92
Toobin might even concede that...for him, it beats practicing law Supersedeas Aug 2013 #108
Why did you use quotation marks in your title? nt David Krout Aug 2013 #109
I went and fixed it 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #114
you're welcome nt David Krout Aug 2013 #125
We need more people to stand up to government abuse of power Jake2413 Aug 2013 #111
A big K&R for Ellsberg. blackspade Aug 2013 #116
K&R idwiyo Aug 2013 #122
Elisberg say we shold trust all journalists DontTreadOnMe Aug 2013 #139
No. He doesn't say we should trust all journalists Vanje Aug 2013 #150
k&r! n/t wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #140
Ha, Ellsberg is making himself a formidable roadblock Babel_17 Aug 2013 #141
That clip is too funny. thanks. nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #143
I like the term 'tools' felix_numinous Aug 2013 #142
Nicely put. Would make a good OP imho. eom 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #145
Unfortunately felix_numinous Aug 2013 #147
thanks. nt 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #148
...or at least take some pride Vanje Aug 2013 #152
Glen couldnt even iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #144
Most adults read the actual story. Vanje Aug 2013 #153
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #146
Queue the "Ellsberg is a tool" folks. nt silvershadow Aug 2013 #151
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