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In reply to the discussion: Public School Teachers and Administrators: How should we fire them? [View all]ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)42. It IS a tea party soundbite
and OP has already conceded it is a local control issue and that processes for teacher evaluations are already in place. However, the continually shitfting sands of OP's argument seem to indicate a desire to get at something else that hasn't surfaced yet in the conversation..."unions are bad" perhaps?
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"Always see news stories" and "teachers being kept despite bad performance,etc"
MichiganVote
Feb 2012
#1
The point isn't the what they say.. it is asking what the actual process SHOULD be... NT
BrentWil
Feb 2012
#2
A process is only as good as those who actually follow it. Think there are a lot of bad apples?
MichiganVote
Feb 2012
#7
Those companies all have performance review processes too. They are also for profit enterprises.
MichiganVote
Feb 2012
#32
I said "kids". Been a room full of 25-30 kids daily recently? No, you haven't. Nuff' said.
MichiganVote
Feb 2012
#50
Thanks for the post. Very good and I do think it shows some of the problems with the system.
BrentWil
Feb 2012
#94
Twenty-five to thirty school children on a daily basis is only true in elementary school.
1monster
Feb 2012
#51
A committment on the part of the School Board all the way down to the the food
1monster
Feb 2012
#67
I like how you preface your argument with "we always see news stories" about bad teachers
Hugabear
Feb 2012
#3
There would have to be some sort of board certification program and something akin to the MCATs
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#96
I lean toward treating them the same way as IT professionals who are terminated for job performance
slackmaster
Feb 2012
#8
No. Eject them from the premises before they have a chance to do any more harm.
slackmaster
Feb 2012
#56
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers. "
Smarmie Doofus
Feb 2012
#15
Not sure. You've edited it six times so far so I'm not sure what you may have said.
Smarmie Doofus
Feb 2012
#30
We effectively HAVE exactly that. It's called "mayoral control". Lots of urban districts have it.
Smarmie Doofus
Feb 2012
#86
The fact that every school board is different doesn't stop one from discussing the ideal solution.NT
BrentWil
Feb 2012
#35
Nothing wrong with any question. But let's get real. You've changed the preface of your question.
MichiganVote
Feb 2012
#44
+1 OH YEAH. I forgot. REALITY. We have to figure out a way to get rid of you, MV.
Smarmie Doofus
Feb 2012
#75
Poorly performing managers generally try to blame employees for their own failures
Major Nikon
Feb 2012
#85
A solution may be like what the National Hockey League did to introduce helmets.
bluestate10
Feb 2012
#84