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yurbud

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65. if health care reform were serious, insurance at least would have been converted to non-profit

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Wed Aug 21, 2013, 05:28 PM

Aug 2013

so you'd get people at the top more concerned about delivering care than withholding it to goose profits.

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IF YOU BELIEVE UNIVERSAL SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE IS A RIGHT CHECK IN! [View all] gopiscrap Aug 2013 OP

absolutely. Single payer health care, free education for all, and living wages!!!! liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #1

You and I are on the same page! gopiscrap Aug 2013 #2

Seems like the United Nations agrees with you. WHEN CRABS ROAR Aug 2013 #66

Well, that would be a feature of "civilization." immoderate Aug 2013 #3

This is so close to my position Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #7

Yep. The issue is mostly rhetorical. immoderate Aug 2013 #13

Yes, quite rhetorical. Nothing like a person dying for care that brings out the deep thoughts. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #33

Agreed Omnith Aug 2013 #121

single payer is the moral and sensible thing to do so don't hold your breath bowens43 Aug 2013 #4

Checking in. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #5

Absolutely. It would be nice to live in a civilized society. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #6

Self-evidently it currently *isn't* a right in the USA at present, but I think it probably should be Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #8

I don't think it's a right, but I do think enlightened societies should provide that Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #9

And people ask what I am doing on a Democratic board. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #25

We have a right to life. Health care is essential to our right to life. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #35

Nice post. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #37

It's part of the five national security concerns... KansDem Aug 2013 #10

+1 and K&R n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2013 #62

Absolutely! This, too, is Homeland Security. calimary Aug 2013 #165

I think it's the best policy and something we should shoot for. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #11

Count me in! If people are provided a lawyer if you can't afford one, woodsprite Aug 2013 #12

Checking in. Lugnut Aug 2013 #14

K&R MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #15

It's the only approach that can be called a solution FiveGoodMen Aug 2013 #16

K&R caseymoz Aug 2013 #17

Plan E--get the bloodsuckers out: just patients, providers, and Medicare, the way everyone likes it MisterP Aug 2013 #18

Absolutely yes... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #19

Checking in. nt hack89 Aug 2013 #20

true ut oh Aug 2013 #21

A perfect right? No. malthaussen Aug 2013 #22

I agree with your position. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #158

We had a big grocery strike in California a few years ago over health care.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #23

ME! Safetykitten Aug 2013 #24

I don't think it's a "right" but it's certainly the right thing to do. RevStPatrick Aug 2013 #26

Unfortunately, it's not a right guaranteed by the Constitution. pnwmom Aug 2013 #27

Some of the replies here are HILARIOUS! Well, when you think about it...uh...in a classical sense... Safetykitten Aug 2013 #28

I just don't believe it will ever happen. The greed is to entrenched in the for profit health SammyWinstonJack Aug 2013 #29

I'm not sure it's a right DefenseLawyer Aug 2013 #30

Yep. We need to get away... TDale313 Aug 2013 #31

Yes, it's a Right, except to Right Wingers. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #32

Yes. And the UPS decision brings us closer to a national consensus that we need single payer JDPriestly Aug 2013 #34

The more businesses that drop health insurance, the more people will recognize the universal need.nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #157

We're either a "first-world" country or not, which is it? polichick Aug 2013 #36

Maybe not a "right" but a feature of a "first world" nation. The USA is not a first world nation. hunter Aug 2013 #38

K&R Ocelot Aug 2013 #39

Yup Bearheim Aug 2013 #40

Checking in get the red out Aug 2013 #41

check Jack Rabbit Aug 2013 #42

Of course it's a right. HughBeaumont Aug 2013 #43

checking in n/t Lee-Lee Aug 2013 #44

I should be, but there are no "rights" unless you win them and can keep them. nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #45

Check. Blue_In_AK Aug 2013 #46

Rec #69. TexasTowelie Aug 2013 #47

Our Constitution allows Single Payer, Universal Health Care. RC Aug 2013 #48

K&R G_j Aug 2013 #49

DURec Profit OUT of healthcare !! leftstreet Aug 2013 #50

Yes colsohlibgal Aug 2013 #51

Count me in Auggie Aug 2013 #52

check in...kick....rec.... NRaleighLiberal Aug 2013 #53

K & R SunSeeker Aug 2013 #54

Medicare for everyone fjlovato Aug 2013 #55

That would have been one hell of a legacy leftstreet Aug 2013 #61

Yes! Hun Joro Aug 2013 #150

k&r HappyMe Aug 2013 #56

still should be our goal, yes NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #57

Not really a human "right" but it should def be a national priority. Quantess Aug 2013 #58

K&R forestpath Aug 2013 #59

Here here! n/t Mojo Electro Aug 2013 #60

agreed maindawg Aug 2013 #63

Checking in walkerbait41 Aug 2013 #64

if health care reform were serious, insurance at least would have been converted to non-profit yurbud Aug 2013 #65

Very important point. truedelphi Aug 2013 #80

It would be far cheaper and more efficient, Enthusiast Aug 2013 #67

K&R for civilizing the USA. freshwest Aug 2013 #68

YES! YES! Rockyj Aug 2013 #69

If we can't afford to educate our children, to heal our sick or care for our elderly ... Scuba Aug 2013 #70

Excellent gopiscrap Aug 2013 #84

Checking in. LWolf Aug 2013 #71

Health care and having good health is a right that everyone in this country must have, bluestate10 Aug 2013 #72

Yes. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #73

I think health care should be a right, regardless of how it is paid for. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #74

Why this is just a ploy to find common ground in GD hootinholler Aug 2013 #75

That's the way it's supposed to work... Wounded Bear Aug 2013 #76

Me. nt Zorra Aug 2013 #77

Lived and worked in Canada. jpak Aug 2013 #78

yep! Sancho Aug 2013 #79

Best Solution All Around cantbeserious Aug 2013 #81

Absolutely count me in. Brigid Aug 2013 #82

No brainer K&R n/t whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #83

K&R jwirr Aug 2013 #85

K&R! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #86

Universal health care is a right. Single payer insurance is one of many ways to achieve it. Recursion Aug 2013 #87

Exactly. Whether you use single payer or a national health service like in the UK or pampango Aug 2013 #155

Here! Change has come Aug 2013 #88

Remove the age restriction from Medicare - TBF Aug 2013 #89

This will only happen state by state eridani Aug 2013 #90

As my wife says: WITHOUT our health how the HELL do we Pursuit Life Liberty and Happiness? diabeticman Aug 2013 #91

I don't get why people don't see this. JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #92

We cannot continue to call ourselves a "civilised" nation... DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #93

A "Right" with conditions. ErikJ Aug 2013 #94

Agreed, but... DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #162

ABSOLUTELY rury Aug 2013 #95

Hellz yeah! Roland99 Aug 2013 #96

K & R L0oniX Aug 2013 #97

Always have - K&R n/t DeSwiss Aug 2013 #98

This is a no-brainer....checking in. Curmudgeoness Aug 2013 #99

I pay $8,200 per year just for insurance and no treatment The Second Stone Aug 2013 #100

Not just the right thing to do, it's the right way to do it. kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #101

K&R Rectangle Aug 2013 #102

Yup. Squinch Aug 2013 #103

And much cheaper for society on point Aug 2013 #104

Yes! landolfi Aug 2013 #105

Check, where do we sign up? n/t AnotherDreamWeaver Aug 2013 #106

Truth Moe the Dog Aug 2013 #107

Yes, it's hight time we join the rest Lifelong Protester Aug 2013 #108

it's a right. Agony Aug 2013 #109

Absolutely. N/t cactusfractal Aug 2013 #110

You mean like in real grown-up countries? Jakes Progress Aug 2013 #111

I absolutely agree davidpdx Aug 2013 #112

K & R n/t xocet Aug 2013 #113

I agree. murielm99 Aug 2013 #114

I have and love it. riverbendviewgal Aug 2013 #115

I'M IN .. So how are we going to make this happen. Medicare does not pay for every cost. YOHABLO Aug 2013 #116

Here, here! 100% agreed. nt brush Aug 2013 #117

Medicare for all! BillyRibs Aug 2013 #118

Medicare part E, for Everyone! mountain grammy Aug 2013 #119

Hell ya...... daleanime Aug 2013 #120

Checking in. Getting sick of it at this point. nt ChaoticTrilby Aug 2013 #122

K&R PotatoChip Aug 2013 #123

+1 area51 Aug 2013 #124

knr Th1onein Aug 2013 #125

K&R nxylas Aug 2013 #126

I don't believe in rights, ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #127

Just wondering here... discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2013 #142

Rights are first imagined, ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #170

Ya know..... Safetykitten Aug 2013 #171

Your reply made me smile in confusion. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #172

Please forgive my earlier less than clear reply. discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2013 #173

I very much support a single-payer system. ZombieHorde Aug 2013 #175

Thank you discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2013 #178

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #128

HR 676 Fridays Child Aug 2013 #129

Ditto Stevepol Aug 2013 #130

checkin in onethatcares Aug 2013 #131

yes it's a right ! nt steve2470 Aug 2013 #132

knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #133

FWIW, yes. n/t AngryOldDem Aug 2013 #134

I hope I live to see the day! Ferretherder Aug 2013 #135

Indeed! LeftishBrit Aug 2013 #136

K&R hwmnbn Aug 2013 #137

Yes. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #138

I'm not sure about it being a right, but it's certainly a good idea! Turbineguy Aug 2013 #139

Checking in. k&r Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #140

Informed our health insurance premiums going up 22% Number9Dream Aug 2013 #141

Single payer, absolutely. discntnt_irny_srcsm Aug 2013 #143

I just don't understand how we don't have at least 95% of Americans for universal health care? Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #144

checking in Schema Thing Aug 2013 #145

Good thing we all voted for a POTUS who at least supports a Public Option! NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #146

Hell yeah. n/t madmax Aug 2013 #147

YES Tippy Aug 2013 #148

Single payer, the only way to go kairos12 Aug 2013 #149

Checking in! Hun Joro Aug 2013 #151

I believe.... Adrahil Aug 2013 #152

K & R ctsnowman Aug 2013 #153

Checking in! City Lights Aug 2013 #154

Yes! Count me in. maddiemom Aug 2013 #156

Whether or not it's a right HillWilliam Aug 2013 #159

check, check, check. k&r Little Star Aug 2013 #160

agreed gejohnston Aug 2013 #161

Damn Ayn Rand permeates the political thought DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #163

It not only is a right The Green Manalishi Aug 2013 #164

Giddeyup! Bigredhunk Aug 2013 #166

Checking In! Caeser67 Aug 2013 #167

Checking in! nt Joey Liberal Aug 2013 #168

UNIVERSAL SINGLE PAYER HEALTH CARE IS the only way our country survives the next 50 years Vincardog Aug 2013 #169

Agree. avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #177

Double kicked and recommended.........nt Enthusiast Aug 2013 #174

So many hard working people I know will now be able to afford LaPera Aug 2013 #176

Not a right but it is right ramapo Aug 2013 #179

America the only country where guns saves lives and Health Care kills. Chisox08 Aug 2013 #180

Exactly gopiscrap Aug 2013 #181

Kick for a civilized society where 'national security' actually means protecting American lives sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #182