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TheTruthBeKnown

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23. Cite any law to counter what I stated.

Wed Aug 21, 2013, 12:40 PM

Aug 2013

You can call people names but the intelligent thing to do would be to at least research an issue before mindlessly responding with zero facts and zero knowledge.

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Ted Cruz is not a legal US citizen [View all] TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 OP

He clearly hates Americans. onehandle Aug 2013 #1

Ridiculous... A child born to a US citizen parent, is a US citizen hlthe2b Aug 2013 #2

With you on all points. LearningCurve Aug 2013 #52

Do you think that all of the children fathered by our GI's all over the world are US citizens? Little Milly Aug 2013 #93

Cruz, regardless of how Canada defines him, is a US citizen... Kindly do some reading... hlthe2b Aug 2013 #96

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #109

Cruz' birth was registered with the US consulate and he received US passport in '86 as teen hlthe2b Aug 2013 #112

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #116

Catherine Frazier LOL TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 #149

His registration /w US consulate would be readily available for checking..I do not believe that you hlthe2b Aug 2013 #152

Thank you. It's like arguing with a mentally ill person. I, and you, and others have posted Nay Aug 2013 #166

Where's the document? TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 #169

^^More nonsense from someone who has been repeatedly discounted by numerous DUers facts hlthe2b Aug 2013 #170

If you take it to it's logical end, then yes! gopiscrap Aug 2013 #121

No there is a double standard there. alarimer Aug 2013 #141

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #142

No Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #111

You are mistaking the hoops to obtain documentation and passports with the legal status, which you hlthe2b Aug 2013 #113

I had a military passport as born on an American AF base Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #115

Perhaps the military had different instructions, but generally all your Mom should have had to do hlthe2b Aug 2013 #118

It may have been different way back when but it was not uncommon.This was Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #131

Ok, last time TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 #167

I and countless others here have provided the citations and links. YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY hlthe2b Aug 2013 #168

Both my sons were born in Mexico, you have to apply for citizenship. vinny9698 Aug 2013 #123

Legal status versus the steps rquired to document that status are two different things... hlthe2b Aug 2013 #127

My birth certificate states my mother is Austrian and my father was American hobbit709 Aug 2013 #144

Thanks for your input TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 #150

This message was self-deleted by its author kristopher Aug 2013 #125

Truthbknown, I've got to agree with you on this one rl6214 Aug 2013 #147

Very interesting. MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #3

You are as wrong as a birther CBGLuthier Aug 2013 #4

Apparently someone wants others to spout nonsense jberryhill Aug 2013 #10

The summer of 2013, trollmageddon! snooper2 Aug 2013 #84

It should be "Troll-nado"... Whiskeytide Aug 2013 #91

You need paperwork to prove your citizenship. vinny9698 Aug 2013 #126

My parents birthplace is noted on my BC notadmblnd Aug 2013 #138

because for some reason, people who are wrong, are much bolder than people who are correct CreekDog Aug 2013 #132

That explains a lot. pintobean Aug 2013 #135

whom are you criticizing here? myself or the OP who is posting nonsense? CreekDog Aug 2013 #137

Yes. Correct. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #136

Don't know.. EC Aug 2013 #11

You got one thing right - "Don't know" - No, you don't jberryhill Aug 2013 #15

That's what I said. n/t EC Aug 2013 #31

Or it may not Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #21

laws can confer rights, including citizenship, retroactively. unblock Aug 2013 #85

Cite any law to counter what I stated. TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 #23

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #24

Interesting.. one_voice Aug 2013 #30

This is pure manure spreading jberryhill Aug 2013 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #43

Section 301(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act refutes the entire argument. He's a citizen. Xithras Aug 2013 #106

How do you prove you are an American citizen? vinny9698 Aug 2013 #124

So then why was the man born in Hawaii of an American Mother malaise Aug 2013 #164

This would be great. EC Aug 2013 #5

too funny... DURHAM D Aug 2013 #6

This is horseshit jberryhill Aug 2013 #7

Cite ANY law to counter the process I described TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 #26

Your own link refutes it jberryhill Aug 2013 #33

Read the law TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 #50

Read the link that you yourself posted BlueState Aug 2013 #61

You are correct Gothmog Aug 2013 #101

You are correct... dual citizenship status is decided by each country JCMach1 Aug 2013 #172

Doncha just love it... malthaussen Aug 2013 #32

Aw, crap. I was so hoping that despicable POS could be kicked out of office. freshwest Aug 2013 #48

Rick Perry would take it as a challenge to appoint someone even worse. (n/t) Jim Lane Aug 2013 #155

I think he's a Cuban spy, working for Castro. Avalux Aug 2013 #8

Cruz should be looking to run for office in Cuba as DURHAM D Aug 2013 #16

And so begins the birthers from the left. nt Javaman Aug 2013 #9

I rather doubt this one is from the "left" hlthe2b Aug 2013 #22

...me too. Cooley Hurd Aug 2013 #27

Good point. My cynical radar failed me. :( nt Javaman Aug 2013 #105

G4A? Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #12

what are your qualifications on these matters, OP Enrique Aug 2013 #13

Birther. nt. NCTraveler Aug 2013 #14

Nothing like becoming the monsters you once fought. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #17

Sigh FreeJoe Aug 2013 #49

How do you know all of those Jenoch Aug 2013 #18

Bullshit alert! Bullshit alert! Lil Missy Aug 2013 #19

Oh geez, the Cruz birthers! tritsofme Aug 2013 #20

Cruz Was Born 12/22/70 - What Were The Requirements Then & What Forms Needed To Be Completed?.... global1 Aug 2013 #25

My situation is identical to Cruz's TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 #36

Oh boy MFrohike Aug 2013 #28

You are right. American children born in foreign countries must Cleita Aug 2013 #29

I didn't JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #34

Those born on a military base or in an embassy fall Cleita Aug 2013 #38

Interesting JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #41

There's a bunch of rules depending when you were born, Cleita Aug 2013 #56

"denouncing the country of your birth" Daniel537 Aug 2013 #62

When you swear the oath you have to do this. Cleita Aug 2013 #65

According to LegalZoom this oath ceremony only applies to Americans born abroad who also permanently Daniel537 Aug 2013 #72

I don't know. I only know what I had to do and what most of my Cleita Aug 2013 #76

Why are you posting ignorance, like you did with Mt. Rainier national park before? CreekDog Aug 2013 #161

I'm really sorry, but that is just incorrect. COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #88

I can only talk about my experience. But to insinuate that I am lying Cleita Aug 2013 #94

You're being overly sensitive. I never said you COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #98

I was born in 1940. The rules and paperwork were probably different Cleita Aug 2013 #99

It's possible the law was different in 1940. My daughter COLGATE4 Aug 2013 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author CreekDog Aug 2013 #160

Maybe you are lying, you just contradicted your own post upthread CreekDog Aug 2013 #162

Do you have to work really hard at being so rude and nasty? Cleita Aug 2013 #165

absolute total nonsense. yikes. cali Aug 2013 #146

I have both a German birth certificate and a CRB Gothmog Aug 2013 #103

Your parents complied with the law TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 #44

A tee hee JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #51

Birther! bunnies Aug 2013 #46

Cleata, I was born in the USA of Canadian parents (1940s) then we moved back to Canada when I was 7. nenagh Aug 2013 #66

Like I said someone with authority like an AG or judge should Cleita Aug 2013 #70

I am glad you answered the OP, because what a person assumes, may not be correct. nenagh Aug 2013 #79

Cleita, Cruz' birth was registered with the US consulate and he received US passport in '86 as teen hlthe2b Aug 2013 #107

The OP is nonsense but this is one section of the Constitution which should be amended. former9thward Aug 2013 #37

FSS yes he is. ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #39

We don't want to go there. The crazy is still crazy. Shrike47 Aug 2013 #40

It is important not to let the right-wing off the hook so easily. kentuck Aug 2013 #42

I would like to know how the Canadians classified his citizenship. Ganja Ninja Aug 2013 #45

Born on Canadian soil = Canadian citizen nt laundry_queen Aug 2013 #55

Yep. If you have a Canadian birth certificate, you are a Canadian citizen. nt Nay Aug 2013 #80

Cruz's father was never a Canadian citizen. Jim Lane Aug 2013 #157

Hmmm... I just sent an email to my sister... RevStPatrick Aug 2013 #47

Thanks TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 #59

Please stop calling DUers RW trolls, fools and teabaggers pintobean Aug 2013 #63

is that why they are calling this poster who had two simultaneous accounts on DU a troll? CreekDog Aug 2013 #140

You know what? You need to stop calling people trolls. Sheldon Cooper Aug 2013 #67

Manners? TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 #71

Well, an unsound and unproven premise predicated on alleged facts, and alleged intelligence. LanternWaste Aug 2013 #74

Thank you, LanternWaste pintobean Aug 2013 #77

Why? One generally only gets hidden when they say something. CreekDog Aug 2013 #143

Didn't you ever hear that two wrongs don't make a right? Sheldon Cooper Aug 2013 #75

I personally have called you out about your false assertion that a dual citizen must Nay Aug 2013 #83

You've been on DU for 9 years, 40 posts, and posted as much today as in the past 9 years CreekDog Aug 2013 #133

At least one other poster called this one a troll first. nt pnwmom Aug 2013 #89

I understand your frustration here... RevStPatrick Aug 2013 #114

All this calling longstanding, good DUers "trolls" tells me a great deal about YOU, noob. kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #120

oh... Joy... Our very own birthers... Ohio Joe Aug 2013 #53

This raises the issue whether he is even a legal resident. Sanity Claws Aug 2013 #54

of course he is - let's not go off the deep-end like the birthers DrDan Aug 2013 #57

How do you know his parents did't file the proper paperwork? BainsBane Aug 2013 #58

The answer is in Cruz's own statement. TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 #64

Excuse me BainsBane Aug 2013 #68

Are we really going to allow leftynyc Aug 2013 #60

Do you know what laws are? TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 #69

He's got a U.S. passport so his mother must have done whatever was legally pnwmom Aug 2013 #95

I've looked at the constitution leftynyc Aug 2013 #117

signed up in 2004, 50 posts later, is doing this --also, had multiple accounts on DU CreekDog Aug 2013 #171

Your first paragraph is false. I am a dual Canadian/American citizen. I became a naturalized Nay Aug 2013 #73

Tis Birther garbage maddezmom Aug 2013 #78

Dumbest post I've read all month KamaAina Aug 2013 #81

Kick, to the curb, and stay there! benld74 Aug 2013 #82

MAybe Mr Cruz would nykym Aug 2013 #86

Hmmmmmm. Low count poster trying to make DU look like birthers? LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #87

You're wrong. He's got a U.S. passport, so he's proved he's a citizen. pnwmom Aug 2013 #90

Why is this bullshit getting recs? Rex Aug 2013 #92

Why indeed. I and several other posters have jerked this guy up by his shorts with the Nay Aug 2013 #139

I was born in Wiesbaden West Germany and have a CRB Gothmog Aug 2013 #97

Cuban + Canadian = Commie Socialist!!!!!! JoePhilly Aug 2013 #102

Crescent fresh!!...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #104

Obama and Cruz aren't similarly situated. Obama was born in the USA, physically. Zen Democrat Aug 2013 #108

Seems to me you're saying Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #110

I disgree. I have a co-worker who was born in avebury Aug 2013 #119

After eight years of birfers harassing Obama, I'm game for some payback. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #122

Each country established its own criteria for whether you are a citizen or not. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #128

birth certificate homegirl Aug 2013 #129

Me thinks he's US citizen. He's white and male. automatic citizen. nt bonniebgood Aug 2013 #130

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #134

wow. you certainly are quite the fabulist and you've spun quite the bullshit tale cali Aug 2013 #145

Sooooo, how do you know he did not do all this? Coyotl Aug 2013 #148

the main thing I'm getting from this thread... 0rganism Aug 2013 #151

Obviously you stayed at a Holiday Inn whistler162 Aug 2013 #153

But but but he said he was American by birth malaise Aug 2013 #154

The more our side goes sifting through Cruz's history... BlueCheese Aug 2013 #156

Man oh man I'm glad someone finally straightened this out. Thanks! Was scared there for a minute. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #158

I admit my bias here -- I *want* Cruz to be eligible. Jim Lane Aug 2013 #159

the people here saying that Cruz isn't a citizen are probably arguing the earth is flat elsewhere CreekDog Aug 2013 #163

Have you done any research? TheTruthBeKnown Aug 2013 #173

Birther horseshit LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #174

Whitehouse petition to Deport Ted Cruz. HugoDanner Aug 2013 #175