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In reply to the discussion: The leak was an attempt to bolster the libertarian brand. [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)189. Labels and Propaganda. Misinformation and Disinformation - From the Toolkit of the Ruling Class.
And, of course, their Corporate McPravda owns the airwaves.
While I love the printed word, Corporate Tee Vee is still where most Americans get most of their information, including their ideas about these two statues so revered and respected by many Americans, including more than a few on DU. I wonder what they would think were they to learn from the tee vee what pater and fils have really done with their power?
The Propaganda System That Has Helped Create a Permanent Overclass Is Over a Century in the Making
Pulling back the curtain on how intent the wealthiest Americans have been on establishing a propaganda tool to subvert democracy.
Wednesday, 17 April 2013 00:00
By Andrew Gavin Marshall, AlterNet | News Analysis
Where there is the possibility of democracy, there is the inevitability of elite insecurity. All through its history, democracy has been under a sustained attack by elite interests, political, economic, and cultural. There is a simple reason for this: democracy as in true democracy places power with people. In such circumstances, the few who hold power become threatened. With technological changes in modern history, with literacy and education, mass communication, organization and activism, elites have had to react to the changing nature of society locally and globally.
From the late 19th century on, the threats to elite interests from the possibility of true democracy mobilized institutions, ideologies, and individuals in support of power. What began was a massive social engineering project with one objective: control. Through educational institutions, the social sciences, philanthropic foundations, public relations and advertising agencies, corporations, banks, and states, powerful interests sought to reform and protect their power from the potential of popular democracy.
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The development of psychology, psychoanalysis, and other disciplines increasingly portrayed the public and the population as irrational beings incapable of making their own decisions. The premise was simple: if the population was driven by dangerous, irrational emotions, they needed to be kept out of power and ruled over by those who were driven by reason and rationality, naturally, those who were already in power.
The Princeton Radio Project, which began in the 1930s with Rockefeller Foundation funding, brought together many psychologists, social scientists, and experts armed with an interest in social control, mass communication, and propaganda. The Princeton Radio Project had a profound influence upon the development of a modern "democratic propaganda" in the United States and elsewhere in the industrialized world. It helped in establishing and nurturing the ideas, institutions, and individuals who would come to shape Americas democratic propaganda throughout the Cold War, a program fostered between the private corporations which own the media, advertising, marketing, and public relations industries, and the state itself.
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http://truth-out.org/news/item/15784-the-propaganda-system-that-has-helped-create-a-permanent-overclass-is-over-a-century-in-the-making
Thankfully, to help spread light when the protectors of the First Amendment won't, Maria Galardin's TUC (Time of Useful Consciousness) Radio. The podcast helps explain how we got here and what we need to do to move forward, starting with putting the "Public" into Airwaves again:
Alex Carey: Corporations and Propaganda
The Attack on Democracy
The 20th century, said Carey, is marked by three historic developments: the growth of democracy via the expansion of the franchise, the growth of corporations, and the growth of propaganda to protect corporations from democracy. Carey wrote that the people of the US have been subjected to an unparalleled, expensive, 3/4 century long propaganda effort designed to expand corporate rights by undermining democracy and destroying the unions. And, in his manuscript, unpublished during his life time, he described that history, going back to World War I and ending with the Reagan era. Carey covers the little known role of the US Chamber of Commerce in the McCarthy witch hunts of post WWII and shows how the continued campaign against "Big Government" plays an important role in bringing Reagan to power.
John Pilger called Carey "a second Orwell", Noam Chomsky dedicated his book, Manufacturing Consent, to him. And even though TUC Radio runs our documentary based on Carey's manuscript at least every two years and draws a huge response each time, Alex Carey is still unknown.
Given today's spotlight on corporations that may change. It is not only the Occupy movement that inspired me to present this program again at this time. By an amazing historic coincidence Bill Moyers and Charlie Cray of Greenpeace have just added the missing chapter to Carey's analysis. Carey's manuscript ends in 1988 when he committed suicide. Moyers and Cray begin with 1971 and bring the corporate propaganda project up to date.
This is a fairly complex production with many voices, historic sound clips, and source material. The program has been used by writers and students of history and propaganda. Alex Carey: Taking the Risk out of Democracy, Corporate Propaganda VS Freedom and Liberty with a foreword by Noam Chomsky was published by the University of Illinois Press in 1995.
SOURCE: http://tucradio.org/new.html
If you find a moment, here's the first part (scroll down at the link for the second part) on Carey.
http://tucradio.org/AlexCarey_ONE.mp3
It's important for there to be more than a handful of companies providing "news." Democracy depends on it.
[font color="red"]MORE PROPAGANDA 101: Be the FIRST to lie.[/font color] Afterward, even when told the truth, it's much harder to change a person's mind -- once it's been made, ideas turn to harden into beliefs.
One case in point forgotten by most of America, including those charged with Justice, military and otherwise, is that of Col. Westhusing. The guy saw corruption in Iraq and he wanted to put it to a stop.
I know you remember him, Ichingcarpenter. How many on DU? How many people in the regular world have even heard of him? His important story gets drowned out by propaganda.
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Well there used to be another political faction in favor of civil liberties you know
NoOneMan
Aug 2013
#1
So, if I agree to allow a third party, for example a house cleaner, to enter
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2013
#112
That poster will not respond to actual questions. The meme he pushes is frightening, consent is the
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#122
Yes, but that was not the claim that was made. Have I ceded my 4th amendment rights?
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2013
#128
If the housekeeper is in possession of my information the government needs a
Warren Stupidity
Aug 2013
#221
No constitutional violation? What constitutes a violation of the Constitution for you?
RC
Aug 2013
#133
Why are you still paying attention to the obsessive reframer behind the curtian?
L0oniX
Aug 2013
#188
To convince people to not care about government spying on us because that helps ron paul.
L0oniX
Aug 2013
#107
If true, it is only because Democrats have ceded the ground on protecting civil liberties.
hlthe2b
Aug 2013
#16
As I said, virtually no DUer I know is in support of Rand Paul. But many of us are horrified at Dems
hlthe2b
Aug 2013
#54
...and then there's the Dems going right along with the Bush/repuke NSA DHS cause.
L0oniX
Aug 2013
#124
But we already knew all about these programs since 2006 or 1996 or 1776 or something?
Fumesucker
Aug 2013
#36
"the quickest way for Obama to make this go away is to be candid and forthright about it." No, see
stevenleser
Aug 2013
#85
That's nice. I even mostly agree. But it doesn't address your point to which I responded.
stevenleser
Aug 2013
#119
Look, we all know for a fact Obama is lying about one major aspect of domestic policy
Fumesucker
Aug 2013
#143
Personally, I thought the leak was a Benghazi-esque part of the Rand Paul campaign.
Coyotl
Aug 2013
#39
A Ratfuck from start to finish. And just look at how many fools swallowed it whole.
MjolnirTime
Aug 2013
#42
or that one doesn't know that Clapper was placed in a lying position but fuck facts, best to chase
uponit7771
Aug 2013
#62
...or that more than enough know to NOT ask certain questions in public of secret agencies but again
uponit7771
Aug 2013
#75
So The Excuse Is That American Citizens Do Not Need To Know - Hello, Democracy
cantbeserious
Aug 2013
#90
Labels and Propaganda. Misinformation and Disinformation - From the Toolkit of the Ruling Class.
Octafish
Aug 2013
#189
They have a brand? You mean those anti tax banner carriers and the 1% of primary voters Paul
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#91
If you feel the need, you should do so. I'm telling it to you, the DUer claiming this 'brand' exists
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#117
"The brand is Republican Brand." So Assange and Greenwald support Republicans?
ProSense
Aug 2013
#123
This post violates the Statement of Purpose for the General Forum - NO Conspiracy Theories -
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#100
No, it doesn't. It's an opinion, but I can see why it's important to deflect from
ProSense
Aug 2013
#102
Not to mention the ACLU brand, the Anmesty International Brand, and a few others.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2013
#130
The Pauls are like clockwork: They'll instantly leap upon the outrage of the day
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#136
As was the Iraq war which Libertarians oppose as well!! Damn Libertarians!!! nt
Demo_Chris
Aug 2013
#152
I support an America that sticks to its principles, cares about its people...
AZ Progressive
Aug 2013
#190
Who cares who leaked the information and for what theoretical ulterior motive?
Maedhros
Aug 2013
#167
as sure as the sun appears to rise in the east, avoid the message by attacking the messenger nt
msongs
Aug 2013
#171
It would take a true idiot to buy the pile of shit you're trying to sell.
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2013
#187