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jeff47

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75. And that would be the point of reform

Fri Aug 16, 2013, 01:22 PM

Aug 2013

The "crappy" full time job I had in 2004-2005 would have required about 90% of my pay to go to their health insurance. So I didn't buy it.

The entire point of the ACA is to create a non-employment-based market for health insurance that functions.....and then have the government take that over when the "single-payer demons" fail to materialize.

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Forever 21 letter to all full time/non-management employees [View all] 4dsc Aug 2013 OP

No, it's time for a change in laws. Everyone gets benefits, part-time and full-time. denverbill Aug 2013 #1

+1000000000 Initech Aug 2013 #2

+ another Scuba Aug 2013 #13

better yet, lets not have healthcare tied to employment at all corkhead Aug 2013 #14

Yes, I'd prefer that as well, but part-timers would still not get retirement, or paid time off. denverbill Aug 2013 #16

agreed! corkhead Aug 2013 #31

except then they have an incentive hfojvt Aug 2013 #15

Employers must offer healthcare to employees under HCA or face fines. denverbill Aug 2013 #21

We gave them a 1 year waiver remember? Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #34

and that's just another thing that makes ACA suck hfojvt Aug 2013 #41

Not part-time workers Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #57

Which explains my post suggesting we change the way part time workers are compensated. denverbill Aug 2013 #60

ACA should never have contained the exemption for part-time workers Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #65

I'd rather have that jeff47 Aug 2013 #61

it is not even "tied to employment" hfojvt Aug 2013 #72

And that would be the point of reform jeff47 Aug 2013 #75

We had our shot and we got the ACA Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #29

Actually I don't think I've ever seen any DUer call it 'awesome', until you. denverbill Aug 2013 #37

it has it's staunch defenders. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #38

Yes, and it has people that want it eliminated and not replaced with anything. denverbill Aug 2013 #44

Sure they do. progressoid Aug 2013 #66

A hole money grubbing corporations always figure out a way to screw workers brush Aug 2013 #43

Oh please. jeff47 Aug 2013 #64

Or you could pass a law SteveG Aug 2013 #69

I would boycott, but I don't shop there to begin with. itsrobert Aug 2013 #3

For those who may not know of this company dixiegrrrrl Aug 2013 #4

Gee, if only someone could have foreseen this kind of thing... Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #5

I know. This is mystifying that NOBODY saw this coming. Utterly out of left field. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #9

Well, you know that nobody could've predicted this. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #12

Seriously Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #20

But we can boycott all these places. Everywhere, everything. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #33

I read this and immediately texted my daughter that she cannot shop there any longer. winterpark Aug 2013 #6

most places are going to do this in one way shape or form Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #18

Hey you might as well tell her she can't buy clothes any more. dkf Aug 2013 #32

WalMart "to a certain extent"? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #36

There are certain things I can only get at a walmart - vs a publix. And while it may be winterpark Aug 2013 #54

Don't kid yourself, your still paying just as much at Walmart . . . aggiesal Aug 2013 #56

Yes I know about their business practices, hence my not going very often, however publix winterpark Aug 2013 #86

angie harmon CrispyQ Aug 2013 #48

What a crappy thing to do. Glimmer of Hope Aug 2013 #7

And The Director Of Human Resources For Forever 21 Didn't Even Have The Guts To Sign..... global1 Aug 2013 #8

If you do that they will just cut to 25 hours a week Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #62

Wow! Talk about a blatant, in-your-face 'Fuck You' to your staff. Hope what's HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #10

Awful! GermanDem Aug 2013 #11

How could they have not seen this coming? Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #17

How generous of them MrNJ Aug 2013 #19

When I began my career, we got . . . aggiesal Aug 2013 #80

Yet they claim to be a Christian company dbackjon Aug 2013 #22

Link to their Facebook page! BuddhaGirl Aug 2013 #23

I was going to post this as well RockaFowler Aug 2013 #35

Thanks Generic Other Aug 2013 #42

Thanks for link! JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #50

You're welcome! BuddhaGirl Aug 2013 #52

This is truly and purly... MarianJack Aug 2013 #24

Beat me to it! hedgehog Aug 2013 #25

Call the number on the memo 213-763-2899 BuddhaGirl Aug 2013 #26

the exchanges open October 1st Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #40

They're responding to incentives provided by legislation. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #27

But you can. You will not have anywhere to shop, get gas, or live, but you can boycott. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #30

Write to them to tell them what you think. Here's the contact Generic Other Aug 2013 #28

the teens that shop there won't care Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #46

A great Bible verse for hypocrites Generic Other Aug 2013 #49

They have a location directly across from the cable car turnaround in San Francisco KamaAina Aug 2013 #39

I really liked the idea one poster on their Facebook page had. Chan790 Aug 2013 #79

Yes! The other ones near me (East Bay and Marin are in malls, which I suppose are private property) BuddhaGirl Aug 2013 #92

A very public street KamaAina Aug 2013 #93

LOL awesome story BuddhaGirl Aug 2013 #94

Well, why not write a letter to the architect of this edifice of HC...one President Obama, and thank Safetykitten Aug 2013 #45

The exchanges open October 1 Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #51

Take it out of their tax refunds? Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #58

the penalty for not having insurance could be assessed on tax refunds Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #63

What are people looking at paying out of pocket for the insurance, co pays, deductibles? Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #74

Is there any potential for these insurance policies to be prohibitively expensive to actually use? Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #95

Going Shopping with my teenage granddaughter next Tuesday dem in texas Aug 2013 #47

Companies getting bad press for doing this Generic Other Aug 2013 #55

The new Republican/corporate business model AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #53

We'll see if Americans care about workers over cheap goods BrotherIvan Aug 2013 #59

Forever 21 letter to all full time/non-management employees The CCC Aug 2013 #67

Link somewhere so I can spread this around? nolabear Aug 2013 #68

I never heard of them but I found this on valerief Aug 2013 #70

I've never shopped there before, TxDemChem Aug 2013 #71

I'm sure their employees will treat customers accordingly tomm2thumbs Aug 2013 #73

Many people posted on this very type of action MONTHS ago... Safetykitten Aug 2013 #76

^^this^^ Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #78

Another business to boycott. Time for single payer, or benefits paid by hr on point Aug 2013 #77

ACA is a clusterfuck. KG Aug 2013 #81

Of course it is. It was from the begining, but the apologists are not around, and have insurance... Safetykitten Aug 2013 #83

Sounds like what many companies are doing silently liberal N proud Aug 2013 #82

Yep. Lots of companies are doing this davidn3600 Aug 2013 #84

It's a vicious circle. The companies want you to be available at all times for them part-time. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #85

Use your dollars, boycott/reject this company Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #87

Well this makes it all better sarisataka Aug 2013 #88

Of course they will blame Obamacare SummerSnow Aug 2013 #89

yep Go Vols Aug 2013 #90

Sounds like they're going with the Gap business model justiceischeap Aug 2013 #91

Part-Time tactic probably wont work AzDon Aug 2013 #96

What a Christ-centered company.... MNBrewer Aug 2013 #97

Employers should not be responsible for the health-care of American citizens. THE FEDERAL GOVT WinkyDink Aug 2013 #98