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In reply to the discussion: Below are the arguments of those that support the NSA over Snowden's revelations*. [View all]AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)76. Add to the list: Sen Franken says it's OK
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023451229
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Im on the Judiciary committee and the Judiciary committee has jurisdiction (over) N.S.A. and on (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) and the Patriot Act, he said. I availed myself of these briefings so nothing surprised me and the architecture of these programs I was very well aware of.
I think there should be enough transparency that the American people understand what is happening But I can assure you that this isnt about spying on the American people.
Franken, chairman of the Judiciary subcommittee on Privacy, Technology, and the Law, also said there are aspects of security programs that he should be aware of but the public should not.
There are certain things that are appropriate for me to know thats not appropriate for the bad guys to know, he said. Anything that quote the American people know, the bad guys know so theres a line here, right? And theres a balance that has to be struck between the responsibility of the federal government to protect the American people and then peoples right to privacy. We have safeguards in place The American people cant know everything because everything they know then, the bad guys will know.
He said that the data the security agency has collected have kept Americans safe.
I have a high level of confidence, that it is used to protect us and I know that it has been successful in preventing terrorism, he said.
I think there should be enough transparency that the American people understand what is happening But I can assure you that this isnt about spying on the American people.
Franken, chairman of the Judiciary subcommittee on Privacy, Technology, and the Law, also said there are aspects of security programs that he should be aware of but the public should not.
There are certain things that are appropriate for me to know thats not appropriate for the bad guys to know, he said. Anything that quote the American people know, the bad guys know so theres a line here, right? And theres a balance that has to be struck between the responsibility of the federal government to protect the American people and then peoples right to privacy. We have safeguards in place The American people cant know everything because everything they know then, the bad guys will know.
He said that the data the security agency has collected have kept Americans safe.
I have a high level of confidence, that it is used to protect us and I know that it has been successful in preventing terrorism, he said.
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Below are the arguments of those that support the NSA over Snowden's revelations*. [View all]
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
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then why did they post about it for weeks. the list is not just about current talking points, it's
HiPointDem
Aug 2013
#8
the Demopublicans like to use Talking Points just like the Republicans...
AZ Progressive
Aug 2013
#2
Info on the internetz is like Schrodinger's cat. It's true until you read it. nm
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#129
good job. but you forgot the latest: by defecting to russia, snowden is supporting russia's
HiPointDem
Aug 2013
#5
All Democrats are not equal. Some Democrats support the Constitution while
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#123
"Promoting our side" is great, as long as "our side" is doing the right things.
Maedhros
Aug 2013
#91
It's worse than saying there is no spying, they DEFEND it because 'it's old news'. Until it's not
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#51
The problem is, Sabrina, I haven't seen too many people defending NSA excesses, either.
AverageJoe90
Aug 2013
#111
There have been some that claim that we need the NSA spy programs to be safe from the terrorists.
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#122
Talk about strawmen, "I get that you like Snowden." Nowhere did I say that?
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#132
There appears to be enough evidence to warrant an investigation irregardless of what Snowden's
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#140
And there's no spying, which is why the DEA has apparently been concocting fake evidence trails
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2013
#27
It's a joke argument. The NSA tells you they are not being bad and you buy it.
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#120
I'm not a Snowden groupie, and I support Obama. And I'm profoundly concerned about the NSA spying
Warren DeMontague
Aug 2013
#37
Did you ever stop and think that Prism is way more discussion worthy than how one feels about....
marble falls
Aug 2013
#36
I absolutely agree that we need to keep our eye on the NSA/Booz-Allen spy programs.
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#73
I don't think he faced any sort of mysterious death, do you? And sometimes someone has to take....
marble falls
Aug 2013
#112
I dont think the court room would have exposed anything. It's all secret. What did
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#114
His trial was public and hid nothing and the press exposed and ended the torture.
marble falls
Aug 2013
#116
gee maybe I should reconsider my opposition to domestic spying........ nah, nevermind
bowens43
Aug 2013
#38
Did you get the part where the NSA is 60 years old and that 5 repug and Democratic Administrations..
Tikki
Aug 2013
#39
I am guessing your point about the age of the NSA is that an agency that old
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#124
Doesn't The Very Term "Secret" Lose much of its meaning when 850,000 people have "top Secret"
BlueManFan
Aug 2013
#44
No. When this got blown out of proportion I realized that I was in part to blame
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#75
As I said, Without insight into the hosts discussion it appears editorial.
hootinholler
Aug 2013
#82
For the record, I have nothing against pole dancers. Some of my best friends are pole
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#80
Thanks. Pls also consider: Civil disobedience is not legitimate unless someone agrees to be arrested
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#72
I have no problem that "fall somewhere in between". I do have a problem with those here
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#118