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Fumesucker

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32. Welcome to DU

Sun Aug 11, 2013, 06:54 AM

Aug 2013

It's good that you have come here to share your expertise with those of us who are incapable of recognizing neocon wingnut talking points.

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I'd rather restore constitutional law and give up my healthcare. Just thought I'd throw that out [View all] silvershadow Aug 2013 OP

This sounds too much like fundie conservative talk. Oakenshield Aug 2013 #1

Yeah, shame that it's gone this far, that my extreme left views could be viewed that way by some. silvershadow Aug 2013 #2

Giving up your healthcare won't restore constitutional law. pnwmom Aug 2013 #3

Oh, I agree with you that rolling it back won't restore constitutional law, and I agree with moving silvershadow Aug 2013 #4

False dichotomy. False dichotomy. False dichotomy. False dichotomy. False dichotomy. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #5

No. No. No. No. No. No dichotomy whatsoever. Just my opinion. I would prefer the rule of law so silvershadow Aug 2013 #8

That's called a dichotomy. And, in the real world, it is also false. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #15

It's a false dichotomy since it's NOT either/or. It's a false choice & the options are independent. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #25

If I were to hazard a guess ......... dothemath Aug 2013 #34

Of course it is a false dichotomy. That is the point of the OP. djean111 Aug 2013 #28

You can't be at all subtle on DU, there's always someone who misses it Fumesucker Aug 2013 #44

Evidently. There was such a loud Whoosh!!!!!!! overhead I thought there was a rogue shuttle landing djean111 Aug 2013 #47

not even sure what that means, it's something i hear the wingnuts say all the time JI7 Aug 2013 #6

Except that I'm not complaining about socialism. Bernie Sanders is one of my heroes. I simply and silvershadow Aug 2013 #7

"Restore the constitution" means allow everyone to have rocket launchers and tanks. nt MADem Aug 2013 #13

I can't decide TexasTowelie Aug 2013 #9

It's not about ACA. I love ACA for what it is, and hope we can do even more. I'm just saying silvershadow Aug 2013 #10

I would simply demand both. One does not need to exclude the other. geckosfeet Aug 2013 #11

True. What though does it take to figure out how to restore our democracy? I mean, really? nt silvershadow Aug 2013 #12

An electorate that wasn't filled so largely with buffoons. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #17

Democracy and the constitution are not necessarily the same thing - are they? geckosfeet Aug 2013 #19

REC PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #48

Why do you frame it in terms of a choice? Demit Aug 2013 #14

Think of it as an evaluation of the Obama presidency - on the whole, it's not that great. reformist2 Aug 2013 #24

One can evaluate the Obama presidency in more coherent terms. Demit Aug 2013 #40

I feel completely the opposite Californeeway Aug 2013 #16

People naturally resist a lot of things that they should not. Gravitycollapse Aug 2013 #18

there are definitely circumstances in which you would be correct Californeeway Aug 2013 #20

Welcome to DU Fumesucker Aug 2013 #31

AS a lifelong democratic-socialist I would say that I would rather live in a non-authoritarian Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #21

I get what you're saying, and agree with your priorities. reformist2 Aug 2013 #22

you already have the 'right' to not have healthcare and die where you fall Sunlei Aug 2013 #23

Too bad you look at people getting Obamacare on Oct 1 as rah rah.. Cha Aug 2013 #26

My impression of the OP is that we are constantly given a weird Sophie's Choice if we complain about djean111 Aug 2013 #27

This really does sound like a ridiculous choice Paul Ryan would offer. Squinch Aug 2013 #29

another moronic post ....... dothemath Aug 2013 #30

Welcome to DU Fumesucker Aug 2013 #32

LOL! the poster has been a member longer than you, Mr Welcome Wagon. Demit Aug 2013 #42

And wise indeed have they become Fumesucker Aug 2013 #43

Except the people who would be free to reject health care watoos Aug 2013 #33

Oh I wouldn't worry too much about the health *care* part Fumesucker Aug 2013 #35

Yeah, you can give up medicaid, social security, and medicare tooi Progressive dog Aug 2013 #36

When you're healthy, you can fight better for what you believe in struggle4progress Aug 2013 #37

Ah, yes, the smell of Skidmore Aug 2013 #38

keep the healthcare, dump the guns except for militias rurallib Aug 2013 #39

It's not either or malaise Aug 2013 #41

WTF? 99Forever Aug 2013 #45

This Democrat will continue praising Obamacare and the 30 million poor who can finally afford HC... tridim Aug 2013 #46

healthcare? when'd we get healthcare? MisterP Aug 2013 #49

Well, it's the law of the land, so we will get it, at some point (in theory, anyway). There are silvershadow Aug 2013 #50

the ACA does not guarantee healthcare MisterP Aug 2013 #51

Indeed it does not. silvershadow Aug 2013 #52

You've always had it. Go to Health Resources Services Administration. Link. DevonRex Aug 2013 #53

health care is a fundamental inalienable right. Period. bowens43 Aug 2013 #54