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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
42. Trust the Guardian to twist the truth to suit their sinister purposes.
Thu Aug 8, 2013, 06:45 PM
Aug 2013

And to heartlessly exploit a greatly respected statesman.



Shameless liars but then I've known that for some time.

Your joking right? William769 Aug 2013 #1
I know. Misogyny: check. Homophobia and transphobia: check. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #2
No argument from me. William769 Aug 2013 #7
+1 on the post; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #94
should have raised that one explicitly, thx. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #96
Shhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #98
You and me both! greatauntoftriplets Aug 2013 #13
lol Cha Aug 2013 #21
It's sad what's become of this place mcar Aug 2013 #89
true in both directions Enrique Aug 2013 #3
What's funny is that Lewis is very much on the progressive side regarding NSA and Spying. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #6
Agreed on all points. Guardian made an ass of themselves on this one. morningfog Aug 2013 #17
IMHO sheshe2 Aug 2013 #52
Let's add Lewis' statement: ProSense Aug 2013 #45
" In fact, The Guardian itself agreed to retract the word “praise” from its headline. " ucrdem Aug 2013 #47
you forgot to add this from the same link Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #58
What does another excuse from the Guardian have to do with Lewis' statement? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #61
his statement does help your agenda Enrique Aug 2013 #63
You think his statement is designed to drive an "agenda"? ProSense Aug 2013 #64
no, his statement was designed to clarify what he meant Enrique Aug 2013 #83
+ 1 cantbeserious Aug 2013 #102
MEEEOOW. Your statement Does Not "help your agenda". Cha Aug 2013 #124
Bear in mind Alan Grayson came on DU and got pretty thoroughly flamed Fumesucker Aug 2013 #4
1) I have loads of respect for Alan Grayson nowadays; 2) Alan Grayson is no John Lewis. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #8
John Lewis did not post on DU under his own name Fumesucker Aug 2013 #10
Grayson's a flame warrior himself. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #12
So Grayson came on flaming other DUers? Fumesucker Aug 2013 #16
No, but a guy with a reputation for mixing it up and throwing bombs is more likely geek tragedy Aug 2013 #18
We both know that's not why Grayson got flamed to his "face" here on DU Fumesucker Aug 2013 #26
I missed that Recursion Aug 2013 #39
If you can't handle the heat then get out of the kitchen Fumesucker Aug 2013 #57
With the nonsense Grayson/his staffer spouted, it was very well deserved. tritsofme Aug 2013 #79
Yes, of course, any opinion which differs from your own is nonsense Fumesucker Aug 2013 #81
Tacitly comparing the Obama administration to "Nazi Germany" = nonsense tritsofme Aug 2013 #82
N/T JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #5
Agreed, but everyone in this country has benefitted from his sacrifices. Some don't konw that yet. freshwest Aug 2013 #137
One day Lewis is one of the greatest heroes the country has ever seen Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #9
When I said this place had been overrun by the Ron Paul crowd, I was not kidding. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #11
People who would speak ill of Snowden are simply a waste of time. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #23
Snowden himself is unfocused. pnwmom Aug 2013 #30
"He should have kept the focus on US internal surveillance." morningfog Aug 2013 #41
So? Snowden says it does exist. So he should focus on proving that pnwmom Aug 2013 #69
I'm just not as interested in Snowden as I am in the problems that the internal surveillance present JDPriestly Aug 2013 #119
So, John Lewis is "simply a waste of time?" geek tragedy Aug 2013 #33
&You caught that too? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #99
The issue isn't Snowden. The issue is the surveillance program and the concentration of power JDPriestly Aug 2013 #120
How dare anyone speak ill of Snowden Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #34
No. It's not about Snowden. And I think that is the point that John Lewis is trying to make. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #121
I'd Love To See... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #141
Wow. Are you missing a sarcasm thingy? SunSeeker Aug 2013 #44
Because I think that the point that John Lewis is making, the important point is that we JDPriestly Aug 2013 #122
Wow - The block function was made for people like you Politicub Aug 2013 #65
Enjoy. Ignorance is bliss. The block function removes ideas that are unpleasant, concepts JDPriestly Aug 2013 #123
"Overrun" is exactly right. You Better Believe It! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #86
Source of charges that fact posting DUers are government paid shills, huh? freshwest Aug 2013 #136
Exactly. They hate "blue links". Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #150
Speak for yourself. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #118
Overrun is right.. and at least a couple of them have bitten the big Pizza Cha Aug 2013 #125
Where is the criticism? former9thward Aug 2013 #24
In a later statement, Lewis said that that report of his remarks was misleading and out of context. pnwmom Aug 2013 #32
He is free to add what is left out. former9thward Aug 2013 #37
He did that in his second statement, saying the Guardian report was misleading. Did you read it? n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #67
Yes I read it. former9thward Aug 2013 #71
It's not a condemnation of Snowden. And it's not nominating him for sainthood, either. pnwmom Aug 2013 #75
But ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #100
he's paying a price. exile. you can't do something illegal and not pay a price. unless you're a HiPointDem Aug 2013 #114
BULLSHIT ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #147
bullshit yourself. he didn't freely chose to live in russia. HiPointDem Aug 2013 #148
LOL! As IF he couldn't havce flown to South America from Hawaii. DevonRex Aug 2013 #158
Okay n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #166
He got called back home to Mat' Rossiya. DevonRex Aug 2013 #157
Yes, they thought that he'd already paid the price... poor thing.. Cha Aug 2013 #126
but, not yesterday when it was said that JL thought.. "snowden was like Ghandi".. Cha Aug 2013 #28
One DUer said that was "deranged" and "insane": muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #134
Same thing happened to Naomi Wolfe. She had the audacity to question Snowie's declarations. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #84
We know you worship the ground Gen Alexander walks on. Booz-Allen uber alles. nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #117
LMAO. n/t Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #152
If it wasn't so insulting to a great man, it'd be hilarious. It's a slur by media who never cared. freshwest Aug 2013 #135
John Lewis is an incredible man. I had the privilege to hear him speak and meet morningfog Aug 2013 #14
+1000 nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #15
Agreed. William769 Aug 2013 #20
Thank you. I am in awe of him. I love seeing others DevonRex Aug 2013 #159
don't know much about John Lewis. If he has done the things you say he has done, he does indeed liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #19
John Lewis: geek tragedy Aug 2013 #29
I have a great deal of respect for civil rights leaders. I think it is that kind of action we need liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #36
That's perfectly okay. No need to agree with him. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #38
The Guardian used our Civil Rights Hero for their own ends. DevonRex Aug 2013 #22
"Many did lose their lives. None ran." Because none ran..."support came from around the nation." SunSeeker Aug 2013 #48
Thank you. We owe so much to John Lewis and The Big Six. DevonRex Aug 2013 #68
Another excellent point: "He could have bought a plane ticket straight to South America from Hawaii" SunSeeker Aug 2013 #72
Because he's not doing this for the good of Americans. DevonRex Aug 2013 #76
They dare to compare... sheshe2 Aug 2013 #88
I just emailed a V.P. at The Guardian U.S. DevonRex Aug 2013 #93
Devon, that was an excellent idea! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #97
I will. She had been at MoveOn before this. DevonRex Aug 2013 #101
No, I'd say it's hurt it.. we'll see to what extent. nm Cha Aug 2013 #130
Seems like some people are more than willing to DevonRex Aug 2013 #151
Yes but, .. Reading other Democratic Websites and Cha Aug 2013 #155
Good. I need to go to those. I am in a rut. DevonRex Aug 2013 #156
Good you got a reply, Devon.. and thank you so much for contacting Cha Aug 2013 #163
Thanks, Cha. DevonRex Aug 2013 #164
Exactly, Devon.. who knew we'd we Cha Aug 2013 #165
And to promote a Libertarian Paul supporter who doesn't believe in anything Lewis did. freshwest Aug 2013 #140
Thank you for those historic photos of John Lewis, she! Cha Aug 2013 #129
Thank you for this research and compilation on Rep John Lewis and Cha Aug 2013 #128
Wait, so has there been an update to the obvious "massaging" of Lewis' quotes re: Snowden? Number23 Aug 2013 #25
Just saw this: ucrdem Aug 2013 #35
Thanks and I just saw the kpete thread on it too. Number23 Aug 2013 #50
Shameless aren't they. ucrdem Aug 2013 #53
It's not just them. As I said in the other thread, yesterday was Claim a Negro day here Number23 Aug 2013 #56
ODS knows no rhyme or reason. ucrdem Aug 2013 #60
+1 freshwest Aug 2013 #143
+1 JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #138
Wow. They added a lot to his remarks. Disgusting. freshwest Aug 2013 #142
Fresh, email the Guardian. I did. DevonRex Aug 2013 #161
K&R! hrmjustin Aug 2013 #27
Thus is the hysteria around protecting Snowden. CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #31
Lewis' quote never made the suggestion that Snowden was on par with morningfog Aug 2013 #46
No, Parks and MLK weren't mentioned CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #49
I'll take it straight on. morningfog Aug 2013 #54
The Guardian didn't fuck up. ucrdem Aug 2013 #55
Email The Guardian U.S. I did. I emailed a V.P. DevonRex Aug 2013 #162
I believe Lewis deferred on criminality: CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #80
John Lewis is a hero harrylimelives999 Aug 2013 #40
I saw that. Well, that's what happens when lilly white libertarian nutjobs geek tragedy Aug 2013 #43
I always picture an army of Neidermeyers or Marmalards typing away freshwest Aug 2013 #145
OMG! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #87
They were either stupid teenagers or racists saying that. DevonRex Aug 2013 #95
There's "shedding blood for equality the hard way" and then there's HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #112
Wow, the stupid has eaten their collective brain away on that one.. Cha Aug 2013 #131
Oh, FFS! The Cult is going crazy! freshwest Aug 2013 #144
Trust the Guardian to twist the truth to suit their sinister purposes. ucrdem Aug 2013 #42
Their desperation to keep Snowden in hero status, sheshe2 Aug 2013 #59
They print any damn thing that suits their purposes ucrdem Aug 2013 #62
He certainly is ucrdem! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #66
Perfect pic! ucrdem Aug 2013 #70
I had forgotten that.. mahalo, for the pic of PBO giving John Lewis the P M of F, she! Cha Aug 2013 #132
And what news media do you support? nm rhett o rick Aug 2013 #153
Hiding behind keyboards emboldens the CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #51
Hiding behind keyboards? Aren't we all using keyboards? How else are we going totodeinhere Aug 2013 #73
I do hide behind a keyboard. I also have the basic decency geek tragedy Aug 2013 #90
Please provide a few links to where DU'ers were calling Lewis a "liar" and a "coward" Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #74
not to call anybody out hfojvt Aug 2013 #85
See this thread for the geek tragedy Aug 2013 #91
Thanks for the link JustAnotherGen Aug 2013 #139
Thank you! I grew up in Atlanta and he was my congressman at that time. Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2013 #77
I'm often on opposite sides from you on various policy disputes, but on this you and I HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #78
Lewis is one of the few human beings on the planet who geek tragedy Aug 2013 #92
K & R Just Saying Aug 2013 #103
Thank goodness Meta is back Union Scribe Aug 2013 #104
I'm not scolding any lefties. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #105
I'm not sure why everyone is loosing their minds over either blackspade Aug 2013 #106
Lewis supports Snowden's cause, but isn't the hugest fan of Snowden. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #108
And I totally support Lewis, Grayson, and any others that are blackspade Aug 2013 #109
According to Paul Lewis, John Lewis' office told him that they have no complaint about the article totodeinhere Aug 2013 #116
This whole thread is one big flame fest. DU's version of a B-29 raid on Tokyo. So is the original leveymg Aug 2013 #107
Rep Lewis has called out the Guardian for grossly misrepresenting him. Called them out but good. ucrdem Aug 2013 #110
I looked at the other thread and saw nothing but the usual suspects jump on one mildly misplaced leveymg Aug 2013 #111
John Lewis knows oppression better than any armchair freedom fighter. izzybeans Aug 2013 #113
+1 freshwest Aug 2013 #146
It's ridiculous Oilwellian Aug 2013 #115
Rep John Lewis is very clear in what he says on his gov website.. Cha Aug 2013 #133
John Lewis is a hero. Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #127
K & R Scurrilous Aug 2013 #149
Personally... I Loved What Lewis Had To Say... WillyT Aug 2013 #154
Aren't you the person who called Daniel Ellsberg a "wacko extremist ideologue"? Marr Aug 2013 #160
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