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In reply to the discussion: What the Oliver Stone docu says about the nuclear bombing of Japan is... [View all]burnodo
(2,017 posts)89. but they had been putting out peace feelers for months
and the Japanese needed to find a way of surrendering without giving up everything. If the Soviets had invaded they would have killed Hirohito and wiped out everything else.
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redgreenandblue
Aug 2013
OP
The invasion of the home islands of Japans was estimated 10 - 1 losses, with the US losing
Nanjing to Seoul
Aug 2013
#10
I had relatives who had prepared their wills and written their "I love you goodbye" letters
MADem
Aug 2013
#55
I remember watching Saving Private Ryan and in one scene they were signing wills or something
dlwickham
Aug 2013
#225
WRONG again: There was no race. Patton was ordered to the let the Russians take Berlin first
Nanjing to Seoul
Aug 2013
#181
What does Patton have to do with the Asian Theater? Honestly, you're way off topic.
Nanjing to Seoul
Aug 2013
#221
And yet, a few years later, the Soviets has nukes. And two Jews, the Rosenbergs, were blamed
Nanjing to Seoul
Aug 2013
#165
Never occured to you that Japan surrendered to us because the Soviets would have,...
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2013
#172
China fell to the communists not because of WW2, but because of the corruption of the KMT and the
Nanjing to Seoul
Aug 2013
#179
I consider the research done for my dissertataion valid, as do my professors
Nanjing to Seoul
Aug 2013
#222
The Soviets would have done nothing. They had ZERO sea invasion capability. N/T
GreenStormCloud
Aug 2013
#191
To be more exact, it was Prince Asaka that lead the Rape of Nanking, Hirohito's uncle.
Nanjing to Seoul
Aug 2013
#177
Actually, those around him went with the story that he wanted peace for the good of his people....
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2013
#207
The mainland gains were ALREADY gone. The U.S. Navy had cut the shipping lines.
GreenStormCloud
Aug 2013
#216
A very good historiography that sorts out the conflicting claims that are made...
Waiting For Everyman
Aug 2013
#8
I think the US was more afraid of the USSR having time to take all of China than Japan was of...
JVS
Aug 2013
#71
There are long-standing disputes between Russia and Japan over some northern islands
1-Old-Man
Aug 2013
#57
Oliver Stone is a guy who, when he hears hoofbeats, he thinks zebras, not horses.
MADem
Aug 2013
#58
I am not, I am pointing out that timing does not in itsself imply causation.
redgreenandblue
Aug 2013
#18
I cannot address it, because I lack in dept knowledge of the broader situation.
redgreenandblue
Aug 2013
#27
The atomic bombs killed fewer people than the firebombing of Dresden or Tokyo
Recursion
Aug 2013
#46
I do not understand why you insist that Hirohito was any more credible than anyone else involved.
Enthusiast
Aug 2013
#39
My friend, you are displaying the patience of Job and, for that, I salute you. - nt
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#119
AT that point in the war, Manchuria was ALREADY a lost cause for the Japanese.
GreenStormCloud
Aug 2013
#190
Manchuria is northeastern China and Japan should never have occupied it in the first place
Nanjing to Seoul
Aug 2013
#195
According the Japanese Emperor Hirohito, it WAS the bomb that forced the end.
GreenStormCloud
Aug 2013
#90
Would the world be a better place if we had allowed Germany and Japan to win?
GreenStormCloud
Aug 2013
#69
Would the world be a better place if the Soviets had gained world domination? N/T
GreenStormCloud
Aug 2013
#84
Your comments were not accurate. We aren't talking about 12 ladies in a knitting circle.
MADem
Aug 2013
#134
No, and as I said, you are demonstrating your bias with your stubborn refusal to admit your error.
MADem
Aug 2013
#162
What this is about is your refusal to acknowledge that you said no women served in uniform.
MADem
Aug 2013
#168
Technical Note: I think LeMay wanted to 'nuke' the Vietnamese back into the Stone Age (not
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#121
Your uncertainty ("I just can't tell anymore") is understandable. I've recently become
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#128
I think you can be safe in assuming that 99.9% of the time, it's being used in a
MADem
Aug 2013
#129
Well, the "Greatest Generation" is dying off at a fast clip--he's figuring there's no one left to
MADem
Aug 2013
#138
"the bombs had no effect on the willingness of the Japanese to surrender"? Each and every Japanese?
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#209
Yep. And I suspect that not each and everyone in the gov't was ready to throw in the towel.
AnotherMcIntosh
Aug 2013
#219