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pnwmom

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56. So we should wait till they abuse or imprison gay athletes -- insulting and denigrating gay people
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 03:25 PM
Jul 2013

isn't enough -- and then punish them in the future?

K&R! hrmjustin Jul 2013 #1
What do we do though? Start a petition? Send out the Olympics Email? DonRedwood Jul 2013 #2
I think Gay people in sports need to start talking about this. Gay trainers who will have to go to hrmjustin Jul 2013 #5
Prepare a flash mob for the Olympics Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #125
Straight Society does not believe that oppression of LGBT people is the same as oppression of Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #3
Can you type that in DU with a straight face? DonRedwood Jul 2013 #15
You must be kidding theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #64
I type that with a gay face. Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #84
No they don't. dbackjon Jul 2013 #97
I'm asking you to admit in writing that I said NOTHING about DU as you accused me of Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #119
There is no such thing as "Straight Society" or "Gay Society." pnwmom Jul 2013 #54
Not exactly. theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #66
I agree that GLBT -- and their children, who lack the legal protections other children have -- pnwmom Jul 2013 #68
When you have a country... theHandpuppet Jul 2013 #73
I agree that GLBT are second class citizens. But that doesn't mean that all straight people pnwmom Jul 2013 #75
Gay society and staight society does not mean all gay or straight people are the same Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #86
The legal system denies GLBT people rights. pnwmom Jul 2013 #89
Again, I did not say 'all' nor did I say 'uniform anti gay'. Those are your words, argue with Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #120
An alternative... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2013 #4
I'd like the athletes to NOT be punished. DonRedwood Jul 2013 #8
That might be logistically and financially difficult... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2013 #21
Yes, but if the law had been on the books they probably would not have been chosen DonRedwood Jul 2013 #26
So we should wait till they abuse or imprison gay athletes -- insulting and denigrating gay people pnwmom Jul 2013 #56
Typically you punish people AFTER they've done something wrong Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2013 #98
They're already enacted a law that is wrong, and already threatened pnwmom Jul 2013 #99
So already arresting, beating and killing gays in Russia isn't wrong? dbackjon Jul 2013 #100
Not my country... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2013 #121
If I were a gay athlete ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #16
Johnny Weir's TV show is enough for him to go to jail.... DonRedwood Jul 2013 #19
Point well taken... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2013 #23
Russian prison in a rainbow colored leotard.... DonRedwood Jul 2013 #28
Truly - I guess ohheckyeah Jul 2013 #38
"If" they enforce the law? You think we should take a chance with our athletes? n/t pnwmom Jul 2013 #55
Did you read this:"the law apparently allows only a fourteen day detention and deportation" Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #82
Um . . . are you sure you meant to respond to me? I've said more than once pnwmom Jul 2013 #90
This ain't smoke--there are actual LAWS that are anti-GLBT on the books in that regime. MADem Aug 2013 #123
I Agree, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2013 #6
Untrue, again. GlashFordan Jul 2013 #7
So my husband and I can hold hands and not be arrested? DonRedwood Jul 2013 #9
Nope you can't, holding hands is apparently gay propaganda according to the law n/t Kurska Jul 2013 #11
Isn't that what I just said? GlashFordan Jul 2013 #13
How about you quote the law and the men who wrote them. DonRedwood Jul 2013 #20
My wife is Russian slick GlashFordan Jul 2013 #25
Holding hands is a public social protest? Because the law explicility covers that. Kurska Jul 2013 #31
Thats what I said. GlashFordan Jul 2013 #37
No, you're definitely lying. It is illegal to identify as homosexual in Russia. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #39
Oh so it is illegal, but you don't "think" it will be enforced. Kurska Jul 2013 #42
Your personal assurance on this subject is worth exactly nothing. pnwmom Jul 2013 #57
What do you think of Gay marriage? hrmjustin Jul 2013 #112
Because you said something different, that makes you a "troll" 7962 Jul 2013 #88
Absolute BS, It makes it illegal to do or say ANYTHING positive about gay people Kurska Jul 2013 #10
Again not true GlashFordan Jul 2013 #17
Russian lawmaker: We will arrest gay athletes, tourists at Olympic Games DonRedwood Jul 2013 #22
That's inaccurate. Not what he said in Russian nt GlashFordan Jul 2013 #27
So what did he say? Bradical79 Jul 2013 #49
Can you read Russian? pnwmom Jul 2013 #53
That agrees with everything I have said. GlashFordan Jul 2013 #58
No, it doesn't. Olympic athletes should be free to hold hands if they want to pnwmom Jul 2013 #60
Then support a boycott. nt GlashFordan Jul 2013 #63
Stop lying Kurska Jul 2013 #30
I've already defined the law accurately. GlashFordan Jul 2013 #41
What a joke Kurska Jul 2013 #44
Post it 7 times you're still wrong. GlashFordan Jul 2013 #48
If you want me to stop accusing you of lying, I suggest you start by not lying anymore. Kurska Jul 2013 #50
Right. bunnies Jul 2013 #67
Link you cited and additional links in cited article support position that law was intended to ban maui902 Jul 2013 #102
and those two gay men, what if one has to go to the hospital. Can the other visit? DonRedwood Jul 2013 #12
It is literally illegal for my partner and I to go to Russia and hold hands justiceischeap Jul 2013 #14
Thats true, in public. GlashFordan Jul 2013 #18
No, you just defend those same laws. DonRedwood Jul 2013 #24
Then don't go there. GlashFordan Jul 2013 #29
The whole point is....Olympians are supposed to go everywhere. Not be terrified to compete DonRedwood Jul 2013 #33
Why would they be terrified? GlashFordan Jul 2013 #43
Maybe they should be terrified of the roaving bands of skinheads kidnapping and torturing gay youth? Kurska Jul 2013 #45
This is like a more extreme form of Don't Ask Don't Tell. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #51
The US has a worse record GlashFordan Jul 2013 #62
It's worse in Russia because the violence against Shepherd wasn't state sponsored or sanctioned. pnwmom Jul 2013 #69
That's extremely dishonest. Private people commit heinous crimes all the time. This is a state issue stevenleser Jul 2013 #70
That is just plain not true. tkmorris Jul 2013 #78
OK, now you've lost me after that one 7962 Jul 2013 #96
I don't want to visit the anti-gay fascist police state of Russia either. Kurska Jul 2013 #35
This isn't just a personal issue. The whole US Olympic team needs to not go there. pnwmom Jul 2013 #52
Not defending, defining. nt GlashFordan Jul 2013 #59
yes you are. You are defending anti-gay STATE POLICY dbackjon Jul 2013 #105
Bullshit GlashFordan Jul 2013 #110
And you have been shown that you are WRONG. dbackjon Jul 2013 #113
You cannot divide public and private sexuality. It is collectively a persons sexual/social identity. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #34
Such a rosy picture you paint. It is illegal to be gay in Russia. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #32
Disagree GlashFordan Jul 2013 #46
The law is intended to marginalize gay public sexual identity. Gravitycollapse Jul 2013 #47
You keep saying "I don't think"... AngryOldDem Jul 2013 #77
And He Does Not, Sir: Only Honest Words He Has Said In The Thread The Magistrate Jul 2013 #80
Why are you so insistent on splitting hairs? That seems to be the real problem. nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #83
Perhaps An Old Rhyme Holds The Answer, Sir.... The Magistrate Jul 2013 #87
See, I can understand the general impulse to be a contrarian. nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #94
Yes, yes he is dbackjon Jul 2013 #106
Total BS In_The_Wind Jul 2013 #36
Russian lawmaker: We will arrest gay athletes, tourists at Olympic Games n2doc Jul 2013 #76
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #101
Could Snowden hurry and make some files Sheepshank Jul 2013 #40
I think we should have rainbows on ALL of our athletes uniforms. bunnies Jul 2013 #61
The Olympic Committee is not going to boycott any country with a fat purse. OldEurope Jul 2013 #65
True enough. The IOC has never met a repressive regime it didn't like. DinahMoeHum Jul 2013 #91
Why do you think they still have all the ritual, pomp and circumstance around the torch? backscatter712 Jul 2013 #117
No. 1936 was not Munich, it was Berlin. OldEurope Aug 2013 #128
I agree 100% gollygee Jul 2013 #71
I agree. I'm trying to decide how best for me personally to act on this. stevenleser Jul 2013 #72
More information on this here: pnwmom Jul 2013 #74
Seems rather explicit as to intent and anticipates any kind of behavior covered in the law. Ford_Prefect Jul 2013 #79
Fucking-A!!! DeSwiss Jul 2013 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author truebluegreen Jul 2013 #85
What is your source? another_liberal Jul 2013 #92
It has been all over the news dbackjon Jul 2013 #107
That they are planning to arrest gay and Christian Olympic participants? another_liberal Jul 2013 #108
Not Christian - the OP was using that as an example of the outrage that would happen if dbackjon Jul 2013 #109
Highly dubious, to say the least. another_liberal Jul 2013 #111
What angle? Human Rights? You think Gay Rights are silly? dbackjon Jul 2013 #115
I am a supporter of equal rights for all people, everywhere. another_liberal Aug 2013 #126
Olympics should be moved. dbackjon Jul 2013 #93
The lady told me they have heard about this. Notafraidtoo Jul 2013 #95
They should be subject to boycott treestar Jul 2013 #103
rock the boat mitchtv Jul 2013 #104
But I love mens figure skating! LittleBlue Jul 2013 #114
The Olympics have been a shit-show for decades. backscatter712 Jul 2013 #116
We should not just wait for them to harass DonCoquixote Jul 2013 #118
So the only one who wouldn't be subject to Cha Aug 2013 #122
The Olympic Committee made a grave mistake giving the Olympics to Russia davidpdx Aug 2013 #124
^^This^^ Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2013 #127
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