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In reply to the discussion: Guardian: "XKeyscore: NSA tool collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet'" [View all]xocet
(3,871 posts)31. K & R: Of course, DNI Clapper is completely honest & does not know a thing about this.
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Guardian: "XKeyscore: NSA tool collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet'" [View all]
Catherina
Jul 2013
OP
And "hoovered" for future use. It's"highly sophisticated technology issues" rather than "bad faith"
Catherina
Jul 2013
#5
Yes, communications with people outside of the country or coming in to the country are fair game
Catherina
Jul 2013
#7
If you're in the database, all subsequent searches will potentially turn you up -even three hops out
leveymg
Jul 2013
#18
You get into the system by being within the database of any agency, US or foreign, that feeds into
leveymg
Jul 2013
#40
All gov't agencies operate essentially the same way. I know my stuff about a related agency.
leveymg
Jul 2013
#84
You say 'analysts', but who actually has access, and who are they working for?
Ghost Dog
Aug 2013
#219
The temptation is always there when you have a tool this powerful to use it in any number
leveymg
Aug 2013
#223
All that data is useless without software that identifies "red flags" that NSA considers suspicous.
leveymg
Jul 2013
#198
I'm a member of the Whistleblower Coalition. Russell Tice will tell you all about the misuse of NSA
leveymg
Jul 2013
#202
REMEMBER THIS: You are not a target until they get your info off of the database.
Th1onein
Jul 2013
#186
Hey, they've already listened to soldiers' pillow talk and had fun laughing about it.
Th1onein
Aug 2013
#250
The implication that these training materials are still in use at NSA are staggering.
leveymg
Aug 2013
#231
Where are all the corporate-surveillance state cheerleaders to tell us it is all a lie, and,.
Civilization2
Jul 2013
#19
yes that too,. I never understood that one, we have known about global warming for years too,.
Civilization2
Jul 2013
#46
I know, if anything that is even a worse indictment on the Government, that they 'know all this for
sabrina 1
Jul 2013
#90
I suspected it for years, but I'll admit that the reality is different than I pictured
Hippo_Tron
Jul 2013
#201
Note confirmation that this is an Anglo operation: US, Australia, Canada, Great Britain, New Zealand
Catherina
Jul 2013
#32
of course gottaw "work" with our partners in the war of terror,. oops I mean war ON terror.
Civilization2
Jul 2013
#49
When they pop up elsewhere on DU, denying the obvious, give them the link to this thread.
RC
Jul 2013
#48
the more they blunt the reaction, the longer it takes to get anything done, and the smaller
MisterP
Jul 2013
#157
And that Snowden doesnt have shit and yet he is giving it to the Russians. Go easy on the NSA
rhett o rick
Jul 2013
#176
K & R: Of course, DNI Clapper is completely honest & does not know a thing about this.
xocet
Jul 2013
#31
Well, you guys were really slow to react to this one, and weren't very effective when you did.
leveymg
Aug 2013
#225
Probably earlier than that when ECHELON was first revealed (I recall) by Bamford.
leveymg
Jul 2013
#51
Washington, D.C. wasn't very receptive to Mark Klein, just Keith Olbermann spoke out
Coyotl
Jul 2013
#134
Holly Shit! The more documentary evidence of these abuses, the better!
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jul 2013
#60
And I won't believe it unless he brings his girlfriend to spell it while pole-dancing
Catherina
Jul 2013
#69
So where can YOU point to some story Greenwald has exaggerated or lied or played up?!?!?
Civilization2
Jul 2013
#135
I'm all for making changes so long as they aren't knee-jerk changes arising from fear.
randome
Jul 2013
#167
The Facebook chat slide is interesting to. If you know how to read that and what to do next
Catherina
Jul 2013
#130
And that is why I occasionally include spurious statements, words, etc. in e-mails, postings, etc...
Swede Atlanta
Jul 2013
#78
Imagine how much more sophisticated this system has likely become in the last 5 years
LondonReign2
Jul 2013
#86
They describe an operating system that has gone off the reservation of Congressional intent
leveymg
Jul 2013
#92
You would be more persuasive if you just stuck to the facts about the NSA program and, for a change,
leveymg
Jul 2013
#97
Your second response to my question was a near duplicate of the first. This one is a deflection.
leveymg
Jul 2013
#151
In itself, that is probably not enough to get "red flagged" (depending upon what you buy), but it is
leveymg
Jul 2013
#102
Edward R Murrow: "A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves."
AnotherMcIntosh
Jul 2013
#105
There will be some hipster/tech apologist along soon to explain it all for us that this is not bad.
Safetykitten
Jul 2013
#116
Not when they have access to the content, HTTPS only encrypts data during transit from 1 computer
usGovOwesUs3Trillion
Jul 2013
#207
The HTTP technology being described, however, is about intercepting data in transit...
Silent3
Aug 2013
#214
Direct server access where? Getting what? And what's that got to do with XKeyscore?
Silent3
Aug 2013
#216
The stories so far have not said that Google, Microsoft, Apple, Skype et al...
Silent3
Aug 2013
#239
Need to know codenames of NSA analyis and surveillance databases? Just browse Linked In
Catherina
Jul 2013
#165
ACLU: New Report Confirms NSA's Ability to Access Americans' Online Activity
Catherina
Jul 2013
#175
Yes, technology gives the government, any organization in fact, the ABILITY to spy.
randome
Jul 2013
#180