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Violence is morally justified yellerpup Feb 2012 #1
How is that judged? BrentWil Feb 2012 #3
Bush also said god told him to do it Major Nikon Feb 2012 #6
Yeah but he would be lying... SomethingFishy Feb 2012 #8
When someone is attacking you yellerpup Feb 2012 #9
Is imminent danger never a justification for violence? BrentWil Feb 2012 #24
You mean, like call the KKK out for a showdown? yellerpup Feb 2012 #37
Certainly, I would get out of town also.. BrentWil Feb 2012 #45
No, it is. Hosnon Feb 2012 #40
If attacking an army across your boarder is justified... BrentWil Feb 2012 #46
It might be - but it gets harder and harder to justify. Hosnon Feb 2012 #75
Armies do train. We mass all the time on the North Korean border and they do the same to us. NT BrentWil Feb 2012 #78
The DMZ is a unique situation in that it is expected to have two armies heavily entrenched along it. Hosnon Feb 2012 #83
we were not threatened by iraq. we were not defending ourselves against iraq. spanone Feb 2012 #64
Bush was lying. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #86
This is along my sentiment Progression Feb 2012 #34
Self defense is always justifiable yellerpup Feb 2012 #38
What about Poland in WWII? NT BrentWil Feb 2012 #47
In defense libtodeath Feb 2012 #2
Well then.... surfdog Feb 2012 #11
If you are being serious libtodeath Feb 2012 #13
Why ? surfdog Feb 2012 #15
For the same reason libtodeath Feb 2012 #18
In that case surfdog Feb 2012 #69
Who decides that? NT BrentWil Feb 2012 #25
Hmm. I think it may be intellectually justified when geckosfeet Feb 2012 #4
Defense of self and property Marrah_G Feb 2012 #5
Is it moral to take a life in defense of all property? Shoot someone for stealing bread? Vincardog Feb 2012 #10
If someone is burning down your home Aerows Feb 2012 #12
And if someone is threatening your life or violence against you or your family. n/t RebelOne Feb 2012 #21
To me, that goes without saying Aerows Feb 2012 #62
Some would argue that having property is an act of stealing. NT BrentWil Feb 2012 #26
Indeed, and some would argue that abortion is murder. Fortran Feb 2012 #43
+1 Aerows Feb 2012 #63
It of course depends on each situation Marrah_G Feb 2012 #22
If it means starvation for you. TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #42
Violence against property is often morally justified Taverner Feb 2012 #7
There are moments where violence against property is not enough. Great Caesars Ghost Feb 2012 #20
One will lead to the other. Do you have a right to use violence for someone defending their land? BrentWil Feb 2012 #27
Anyone who kills another over property has committed cold blooded murder IMO Taverner Feb 2012 #31
Including a cop who shoots a bank robber that has not actually harmed anyone? Fortran Feb 2012 #67
Well I would say so, but unfortunately our courts wouldn't Taverner Feb 2012 #68
I do not consider it unfortunate. I have no problem with using as much force as necessary to Fortran Feb 2012 #76
So a man steals and runs - that makes him worthy of death? Taverner Feb 2012 #77
It depends. I can't speak to every situation, I leave it to rightwingers to assign absolutes to Fortran Feb 2012 #81
In the home, it is a legitimate threat to your life NT BrentWil Feb 2012 #82
Yes, of course. nt Fortran Feb 2012 #85
In this case the cop has gone too far. white_wolf Feb 2012 #84
In certain circumstances I do value property over life. MicaelS Feb 2012 #72
What of the american revolution? Great Caesars Ghost Feb 2012 #73
It's not. Robb Feb 2012 #14
Says the guy... surfdog Feb 2012 #17
You'll find hypocrites are typically less cynical. Robb Feb 2012 #19
Wait..so if we live in any country with a history of violence and we don't believe in renie408 Feb 2012 #70
Since morality is an invented concept without an objective definition... Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #23
Social Constructionism ... BrentWil Feb 2012 #29
I would say that in practice, no moral code allows these basic conditions to be met. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #32
Moral codes do allow for a majority of people to have their basic needs provided for.. BrentWil Feb 2012 #33
I agree, it's a societal consensus. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #35
Absolutely... BrentWil Feb 2012 #44
Realistically speaking, was there anything better around at the time? Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #50
China, perhaps BrentWil Feb 2012 #56
Something to be said for that. Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #60
So it is not moral to save your family, for example? NT BrentWil Feb 2012 #28
Defending innocent life from irrational violence is undoubtedly justified. Hosnon Feb 2012 #41
Depends on the social system doesn't... BrentWil Feb 2012 #48
When is shit-stirring morally justified? demmiblue Feb 2012 #16
What thread was self-deleted in GD? How the fuck is this "shit-stirring" BrentWil Feb 2012 #30
In self defense certainly. MrSlayer Feb 2012 #36
In defense of course guitar man Feb 2012 #39
Who is to judge if they are out to harm you? NT BrentWil Feb 2012 #49
Only me guitar man Feb 2012 #51
Violence, when morally justified is no longer violence. n/t flvegan Feb 2012 #52
They'll never get it, believe me. Major Hogwash Feb 2012 #53
Actually, it is... BrentWil Feb 2012 #54
a/k/a "HI! I know how to find Wikipedia, but am clueless as to what it means." flvegan Feb 2012 #55
Violence doesn't stop being violence if it is used in a just means... BrentWil Feb 2012 #57
A hero stops a murder by killing "them" or whatever. flvegan Feb 2012 #58
It is still an act of violence, whatever other word you wish to use. NT BrentWil Feb 2012 #59
No it isn't. n/t flvegan Feb 2012 #61
That's utterly ridiculous RZM Feb 2012 #66
In defense of one's self, or of others. slackmaster Feb 2012 #65
There are so many moving parts to this question, it is hard to answer. renie408 Feb 2012 #71
The other questions were follow on questions to make one think about their consequences NT BrentWil Feb 2012 #79
You're asking me, right? Then the answer is "when I think so". lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #74
Every time I've used it. eom Fla_Democrat Feb 2012 #80
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