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143. is this from a right wing news site?

Mon Feb 20, 2012, 08:14 PM

Feb 2012

This story, true or not, is written for reaction. I see we're getting some reaction here. Notice the violent reaction from, the freepers. I guess it served it's purpose.

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Texas Teacher Suspended for 'Go Back to Mexico' Comment [View all] Newsjock Feb 2012 OP

Having read the article, I'm siding with the teacher on this one; LeftinOH Feb 2012 #1

If you can't deal with difficult kids without racism, don't teach school in Texas. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #7

We should be grateful Baby Bear Feb 2012 #28

And taking that out on kids is wrong. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #29

Yep. God knows why this is so difficult for some people to grasp. (nt) Posteritatis Feb 2012 #59

hey efarrari arely staircase Feb 2012 #74

I said something similar in #27. EFerrari Feb 2012 #77

Main focus missed hermily Feb 2012 #159

I love this reply... TeeYiYi Feb 2012 #113

I'm not sure this was racism Yo_Mama Feb 2012 #34

A solid assessment n/t MrBig Feb 2012 #43

It's probably the oldest nativist slam in this part of the country. EFerrari Feb 2012 #44

Mexican is not a race Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #57

Nativism is a form of racism, yes. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #65

Only if you completely redefine the word Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #110

Of course it was. I don't see your problem. EFerrari Feb 2012 #112

Nice job of splitting hairs Major Nikon Feb 2012 #132

uh, no mexican isnt a race but most mexicans are a mix of indigenous american and european, therefor arely staircase Feb 2012 #89

If the black person continually said "I'm Rwandan" Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #109

Wrong. Identifying racism isn't racism. EFerrari Feb 2012 #117

There is a huge difference Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #122

Yes, there is from her other comments related in the article. EFerrari Feb 2012 #123

"go back to mexico" has for my entire lifetime been a racist statement. a quite common one at that arely staircase Feb 2012 #126

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #64

Teachers are human. Her comment was a response to his comment and not racist. Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #85

You couldn't be more wrong about her comment EFerrari Feb 2012 #116

"Mexican" is not a race. boppers Feb 2012 #149

Yes, nativism is a form of racism. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #151

I posted this before scrolling down (and seeing your plea to stop laboring this point). boppers Feb 2012 #152

Agree hermily Feb 2012 #158

Yes!!!! hermily Feb 2012 #160

Welcome to DU, hermily. EFerrari Feb 2012 #161

she should have sent him directly ro the office to get the form arely staircase Feb 2012 #53

I don't think TX provides alternative teaching materials & forms in different languages. Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #94

no, the forms in spanish were available in the office, the story says. nt arely staircase Feb 2012 #96

Oh, I missed that sentence. It says she tried to tell him to go get it from the office... Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #98

im a school teacher and i get the feeling the kid was being a total jackass arely staircase Feb 2012 #102

I vote "jack ass" too. Seen it too many times myself. BeHereNow Feb 2012 #121

It's in the article tammywammy Feb 2012 #97

Me, too. If it's not a pattern and onetime frustration comment, give her a pass. Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #84

She didn't have ANY forms or those just in English HockeyMom Feb 2012 #2

texas doesn't have bilingual education MrsBrady Feb 2012 #73

here is her rate my teacher page sammytko Feb 2012 #3

transferred to another school sammytko Feb 2012 #5

She's 63, so started her teaching career in her late 30s? sammytko Feb 2012 #6

If she started teaching the day she turned 20, she started in 1969. EFerrari Feb 2012 #13

She's been a teacher for 23 years.... sammytko Feb 2012 #15

Oh, yeah, you're right. EFerrari Feb 2012 #16

My grandmother started a teaching career in earnest at about 40 or so The Genealogist Feb 2012 #52

Any white American who says this should be exiled to England without trial. saras Feb 2012 #4

Why England? Or are you lumping Johnson20 Feb 2012 #20

For the irony challenged, that's the same as calling all Latinos "Mexicans". n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #30

Except MrBig Feb 2012 #31

Yeah, we have a real problem with people of French descent being told EFerrari Feb 2012 #39

I think you missed my point MrBig Feb 2012 #42

it isnt the same arely staircase Feb 2012 #75

I think it is the same, if you're talking about a kid who speaks only French... Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #86

the history of anti mexican bigotry in texas and the dirth of comparable francophobia arely staircase Feb 2012 #95

I live in TX near where that school district is. There is no anti-Mexican bigotry here... Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #99

then congratulations for living in the only town in texas with no anti mexican bigotry arely staircase Feb 2012 #101

You're off topic. This is about one remark by one person in response to one remark by Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #120

No, it's not the same because the American Southwest was never France. nt EFerrari Feb 2012 #162

Regardless, being Irish I was offended by it. Johnson20 Feb 2012 #35

Yes, regardless of the context, that would make sense. nt EFerrari Feb 2012 #37

That escapes me, please explain the context in which bigotry is OK Johnson20 Feb 2012 #51

my celtic dad despised being called anglo nt arely staircase Feb 2012 #92

my favorite thing i when people call me and other mexican americans spanish arely staircase Feb 2012 #103

I know, lol. EFerrari Feb 2012 #105

from the office arely staircase Feb 2012 #124

We board horses here and most of our boarders EFerrari Feb 2012 #128

that sounds like a lot of fun, really arely staircase Mar 2012 #167

What do you do with a kid that says this? Gman Feb 2012 #48

send him to the office to get the form arely staircase Feb 2012 #93

BS. The teacher did nothing wrong Gman Feb 2012 #8

I agree. You are right. n/t RebelOne Feb 2012 #9

No, he's not right. Using nativist slams on kids entrusted to your care is wrong. EFerrari Feb 2012 #26

I disagree MrBig Feb 2012 #32

+1 n/t tammywammy Feb 2012 #38

How does what the kid said mitigate her remark, exactly? EFerrari Feb 2012 #45

Not mitigate, but puts it in some context MrBig Feb 2012 #49

Well, in context of that particular nativism, it's akin to a teacher EFerrari Feb 2012 #69

I disagree MrBig Feb 2012 #104

You are comparing language used by an insider to language used by an outsider. EFerrari Feb 2012 #107

99 times out of 100 you are correct MrBig Feb 2012 #139

Also MrBig Feb 2012 #140

Shirley Bunn is not a Latina. EFerrari Feb 2012 #142

A picture? MrBig Feb 2012 #153

Actually, my coloring is a lot like hers and unless I self-identify EFerrari Feb 2012 #154

I have a friend who can relate... MrBig Feb 2012 #155

Wrong? Yes. Fireable offense? Give me a break. joeglow3 Feb 2012 #61

If you read my posts, you'll see I haven't advocated for that. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #68

Post removed Post removed Feb 2012 #60

Coincidently, I'm not. EFerrari Feb 2012 #67

That poster is no longer with us cyberswede Feb 2012 #70

"Mexico" is not the same thing as the "N" word. Totally different. Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #88

No way. Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #90

Oh, geeze. "Go back to Africa", "go back to Mexico". EFerrari Feb 2012 #163

By forcing the situation, you mean, the kid asked for something he needed? EFerrari Feb 2012 #11

There is no defending this kid so stop trying Gman Feb 2012 #47

Wait, so a kid asks for a form he is legally entitled to EFerrari Feb 2012 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author Gman Feb 2012 #82

Why do you think the school district is legally require to provide alternate books & forms Honeycombe8 Feb 2012 #91

The article specifically says he was disruptive. Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #100

Gman said the boy is indefensible. That's over the top. EFerrari Feb 2012 #131

Yeah, I have taught Jr. High Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #134

Speaking of a big dose of reality EFerrari Feb 2012 #135

Not sure how you meant it but... Drahthaardogs Feb 2012 #137

" If you want to call that "bad", fine. It's early adolescence" EFerrari Feb 2012 #138

Bad child. Difficult what to say about the teacher. sibelian Feb 2012 #10

Out of curiosity, how do you know this is a bad child? EFerrari Feb 2012 #12

Well, the article says as much... sibelian Feb 2012 #36

What bad behavior does the article describe? EFerrari Feb 2012 #40

I'm nonplussed. Do you believe that I have chosen sides against the child? sibelian Feb 2012 #55

A distinction without a difference. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #79

Seems more the opposite to me. TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #156

You don't teach kids how to behave in your classroom EFerrari Feb 2012 #164

Granted, I'm saying the response (poor as it was) need not be fueled by bigotry TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #165

I don't know the lady. EFerrari Feb 2012 #166

That kid seems like trouble, I'm siding with the teacher on this one too. Obamacare Feb 2012 #14

She's referred to them as the Mexican Mafia. sammytko Feb 2012 #17

This isn't the first occurence of her making a negative comment about Hispanics. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #19

I'm not sure where your knowledge of this teacher is coming from, EFerrari. sibelian Feb 2012 #62

The OP. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #66

so that would be... sibelian Feb 2012 #76

How would that be excluding anything? EFerrari Feb 2012 #78

Bilingual paperwork is available in the AISD. w8liftinglady Feb 2012 #18

If this teacher has been in that district, or anywhere in Texas MineralMan Feb 2012 #21

As I said, I am bilingual.(English/Spanish) w8liftinglady Feb 2012 #22

I know you are, and that's muy excelente. MineralMan Feb 2012 #23

Understood. w8liftinglady Feb 2012 #24

Texas - It's a whole other country. MineralMan Feb 2012 #25

There are a lot of bi-lingual nativists out there, especially out here. EFerrari Feb 2012 #27

bien dicho nt arely staircase Feb 2012 #87

Comment from a freeper, WTF!! Obamacare Feb 2012 #33

I am siding with the teacher because she should not be faced with losing her job over one comment. Riley18 Feb 2012 #41

I would have been irritated, too. Quantess Feb 2012 #46

From a larger picture point of view MrBig Feb 2012 #50

She needed administrative support- BeHereNow Feb 2012 #119

Yes, but MrBig Feb 2012 #141

I'll R#6 (or whatever) and K this even without reading the o.p. nt UTUSN Feb 2012 #54

Why is that not allowed? Rex Feb 2012 #130

Looks like a Republican website. gulliver Feb 2012 #56

is this from a right wing news site? newspeak Feb 2012 #143

Aaaahh, it's good to know that every day I can wake up, log into DU and have my faith in..... PavePusher Feb 2012 #58

Dismissiveness is not an argument. nt EFerrari Feb 2012 #80

Reading the headline, I agreed with firing her TheCruces Feb 2012 #63

Having dealt with kids like this one- I'm with the teacher. BeHereNow Feb 2012 #71

I'm sorry, BHN, this whole post is a slur on Mexican Americans EFerrari Feb 2012 #81

Note that he didn't say "Every Mexican-American kid had gang family members".... PavePusher Feb 2012 #83

I'm a she- and thank you for pointing that out BeHereNow Feb 2012 #108

To be fair, a lot of the gangs did not originate in Mexico.... PavePusher Feb 2012 #115

You are so correct- BeHereNow Feb 2012 #118

Your post generalized from a boisterous kid EFerrari Feb 2012 #133

You are myopic in your perceptions EF. BeHereNow Feb 2012 #144

No, I'm not myopic in the least. EFerrari Feb 2012 #145

What? BeHereNow Feb 2012 #146

I think we're done here. nt EFerrari Feb 2012 #147

Wow- just wow. BeHereNow Feb 2012 #148

Perhaps I should clarify that my post is about a small segment of students. BeHereNow Feb 2012 #106

How? The kid said he was Mexican, Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #111

No worries. We live in a complicated culture out here EFerrari Feb 2012 #114

I think many people are actively denying nuance and context... LanternWaste Feb 2012 #125

It reminds me of "no talk" rules in dysfunctional families EFerrari Feb 2012 #127

He is the child, she is the adult. Rex Feb 2012 #129

I can't believe some posters are defending this!? ecstatic Feb 2012 #136

Amazing that so many of the replies here Vattel Feb 2012 #150

California Mexio? New Mexico Mexico? Texas Mexico? Arizona Texas? LiberalFighter Feb 2012 #157