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In reply to the discussion: Zimmerman was holding Trayvon by the hoodie when Z fell backwards, pulling TM down with him [View all]tblue
(16,350 posts)53. And remember what an out of shape
inept bag of bones the defense & that MMA expert witness said GZ is supposed to be. He has ZERO skills despite months of training and working out. He was just one hopeless, helpless giant toddler that night, for all intents and purposes. Just couldn't do shit.
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Zimmerman was holding Trayvon by the hoodie when Z fell backwards, pulling TM down with him [View all]
Duer 157099
Jul 2013
OP
The hoodie was away from Trayvon's skin when the shot was fired, so his blood
Duer 157099
Jul 2013
#9
but the shot was straight 'from a midrange' distance. this doesn't seem to jibe with scenarios that
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#12
i wonder if there was some kind of skuffle that got them on the ground, martin got up & z shot
HiPointDem
Jul 2013
#21
Also he had Martin held at gun point because that is when Martin was screaming. I can just imagine
Maraya1969
Jul 2013
#23
Here and I thought they were saying Zimmerman was a "Major, Major Asshole".
Spitfire of ATJ
Jul 2013
#52
John Good sounded very much like an asshole who watches too much teevee
alcibiades_mystery
Jul 2013
#55
Wouldn't it be the ballistic expert's burden to assert and prove that the hoodie was being grabbed?
dkf
Jul 2013
#26
I'd say this is a logical explanation of what happened, I especially agree that the murder weapon...
DrewFlorida
Jul 2013
#31
Never bought the gym owners conclusion that Zimmerman was a helpless marshmallow.
lumpy
Jul 2013
#62
You don't really think the Sanford PD went through all that trouble do you?
Duer 157099
Jul 2013
#67
Alternate scenarios, if both considered possible, reasonable doubt still exists.
zencycler
Jul 2013
#70
I am 100% convinced Zimmerman got out of the car specifically to detain Trayvon.
Tommy_Carcetti
Jul 2013
#75