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Comrade Grumpy

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114. Calling pointing out contradictions "ratfucking" doesn't focus on solutions.

Sun Jul 21, 2013, 01:33 PM

Jul 2013

And there is a real dissonance between Obama's comments on race and his suggestion that he could nominate Mr. Racial Profiling.

But at least you got to type out your favorite nasty word.

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How Can Obama Deliver This Speech on Racial Profiling While Considering Ray Kelly for DHS? - FDL [View all] WillyT Jul 2013 OP

Happy to be the first rec. X_Digger Jul 2013 #1

Key to today's remarks Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #2

Yeah... WillyT Jul 2013 #4

Kindly explain your "more time on the street" theory with regards to msanthrope Jul 2013 #45

Its code for "Obama isn't black enough". phleshdef Jul 2013 #49

Of course it is. It is an egregious example of that code..a dogwhistle msanthrope Jul 2013 #76

Jury Results 0-6 Leave aikoaiko Jul 2013 #56

You still haven't explained your theory. I am waiting. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #77

You still haven't explained yourself. This is a request to do so. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #111

Thank you. K&R MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #3

Why does he suck so bad at appointing people to his cabinet? liberal_at_heart Jul 2013 #5

Money & Fame... WillyT Jul 2013 #7

He has to dance with those who brought him, so to speak. nomorenomore08 Jul 2013 #82

That would be the question. nt Enthusiast Jul 2013 #83

Practice n/t AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #109

The Firebaggers are restless tonight Fumesucker Jul 2013 #6

Love the blue link. I was thinking yesterday of doing similar on all my posts. Luminous Animal Jul 2013 #30

!Omg lol! Perfect n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #33

Please don't do that. Initially, I thought it was someone else's and skipped it the first time. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2013 #39

You East Coast Pirate Jul 2013 #87

As Basil Fawlty would say Fumesucker Jul 2013 #93

Another white man chimes in to tell the black President how to handle the race debate. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #8

You Funny !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #9

No, you funny, and sad... Only one gear with you. No vision, no hope. nt bluestate10 Jul 2013 #50

Ah shit only one gear with no vision or hope? HangOnKids Jul 2013 #78

are you suggesting a speechwriter wrote Obama's remarks today? Enrique Jul 2013 #10

I'm referring to the pasty white asshole at FDL that saw it fit to criticize Obama's remarks. AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #11

Do You Care To Address The Substance Of The Article??? - How Do YOU Feel About... WillyT Jul 2013 #15

substance that comes from FDL is usually of the fecal type Whisp Jul 2013 #19

Respectfully, ReRe Jul 2013 #36

What's insensitive is people shitting all over what was a heartfelt statement AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #42

"during this time" --versus when? Union Scribe Jul 2013 #61

"How you felt about the nomination." AllINeedIsCoffee Jul 2013 #91

What does "during this time" mean? morningfog Jul 2013 #71

I think this is correct. Grateful for Hope Jul 2013 #103

"White man"? East Coast Pirate Jul 2013 #14

Certain "white people" are certainly not criticizing this president Zoeisright Jul 2013 #58

That comment makes YOU a racist. East Coast Pirate Jul 2013 #84

win! Whisp Jul 2013 #18

Exactly - how can a white person possibly experience what an African American has to experience on HipChick Jul 2013 #22

Thank you . . . Empowerer Jul 2013 #41

Ding Ding! Also consider Willy hasn't supported Obama since day 1. great white snark Jul 2013 #90

"The race debate"?! Cal Carpenter Jul 2013 #96

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #12

I dont think the President is allowed to make these decisions. nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #13

He's not responsible for anything bad that happens. East Coast Pirate Jul 2013 #16

I dont think the President is allowed to do much... WillyT Jul 2013 #17

I would say President Beeblebrox, but.... Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #32

Good post. And good lawd the language here tonight. WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #64

Do you mean, like, someone else makes the decisions, and he's just the "Presenter"? n/t ReRe Jul 2013 #43

Yes. The intelligence agencies told him that he has no choice. They set up a super rhett o rick Jul 2013 #68

Well, it sure would explain allot of things, wouldn't it? ReRe Jul 2013 #74

Yes it would be worse with a Republican president, but that doesnt mean we should settle. rhett o rick Jul 2013 #98

I agree that Ray Kelly is the King of Profilers and Obama must be pressured not Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #20

More "listen to what I say." obxhead Jul 2013 #21

You wanted Change AND Hope? Junkdrawer Jul 2013 #24

Fuck the pony obxhead Jul 2013 #27

yep! SammyWinstonJack Jul 2013 #79

why the hell was post 12 hidden by jury? Whisp Jul 2013 #23

Maybe because it refers to the President of the United States as a "a shittalking 1%er" (nt) Skinner Jul 2013 #86

Then I obviously misunderstood. Sorry and thanks for straightening that out for me. n/t Whisp Jul 2013 #97

that's really a very good question stupidicus Jul 2013 #25

Good question. forestpath Jul 2013 #26

Why isn't Kelly in Jail? Tribalceltic Jul 2013 #28

Because it's all turned into one big game. Brickbat Jul 2013 #29

Because ProSense Jul 2013 #31

'Cause delivering a speech on racial profiling of blacks OnyxCollie Jul 2013 #34

Winner! BrotherIvan Jul 2013 #65

Or sending drones to kill kids? An American Teenager Killed, A Grandfather Seeks Accountability Catherina Jul 2013 #35

I say "No" to all killing. ReRe Jul 2013 #47

I had this up when I read your post Catherina Jul 2013 #52

Amy Goodman had the guy on today, who shot that film..... ReRe Jul 2013 #67

Thanks Rere. I'll remember your advice n/t Catherina Jul 2013 #69

I didn't have time to watch the whole press conference whatchamacallit Jul 2013 #37

K&R KeepItReal Jul 2013 #38

His speech was very sincere. I believed it. Cleita Jul 2013 #40

Well of course... one_voice Jul 2013 #44

Excellent comment. n/t ProSense Jul 2013 #46

"no I don't want to fucking comment on the content" Union Scribe Jul 2013 #63

+ a million Number23 Jul 2013 #75

You don't have a problem with him talking about being black in America East Coast Pirate Jul 2013 #85

well said. n/t Grateful for Hope Jul 2013 #104

I have never seen anyone on DU criticize Obama for being black. loudsue Jul 2013 #107

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! WillyT Jul 2013 #110

Exactly. When he acts like a Republican I WILL criticize him and nobody is going to forestpath Jul 2013 #112

Obama is a, gasp, politician. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #48

They need to appoint someone who will appear to be law and order treestar Jul 2013 #51

Law and order? Ash_F Jul 2013 #55

Same Way he Campaigned on the promise to represent the Underclasses fascisthunter Jul 2013 #53

Chill out. Ray Kelly is an upstanding citizen. Ash_F Jul 2013 #54

I think Kelly and NSA are a perfect fit. Autumn Jul 2013 #88

I think Kelly and Zimmerman are a perfect fit. Divernan Jul 2013 #105

Unreal. blackspade Jul 2013 #57

BHO. blkmusclmachine Jul 2013 #59

Silly, words and actions don't have to match. Union Scribe Jul 2013 #60

No good deed goes unpunished? Hekate Jul 2013 #62

"Obama Bad" is the only thought some seem to be able to hold in their head JoePhilly Jul 2013 #89

Reductive simplistic thinking there, it is almost like you have ignored the actual Bluenorthwest Jul 2013 #95

Your first sentence is complete BS. JoePhilly Jul 2013 #100

Wow. So much anger about a contradiction. WCLinolVir Jul 2013 #66

Considering the President's Comments on Racial Profiling ProSense Jul 2013 #70

But (as usual) you have not addressed the inconsistency between his remarks . . . markpkessinger Jul 2013 #72

But ProSense Jul 2013 #73

Way too soon. This time, attacking "from the left" couldn't be any more transparent ecstatic Jul 2013 #80

Ratfucking doesn't focus on solutions...it creates discontent so voter turnout is lower. nt msanthrope Jul 2013 #81

^^^^ This ^^^^ JoePhilly Jul 2013 #101

Calling pointing out contradictions "ratfucking" doesn't focus on solutions. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2013 #114

No..it's hair-on-fire ratfucking. The President merely said he would msanthrope Jul 2013 #115

Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #92

Obama... 99Forever Jul 2013 #94

Is the President just tired of not getting his nominations confirmed in a timely fashion? Would bet indepat Jul 2013 #99

Speeches and actions are two different things, ESPECIALLY with this President BlueStreak Jul 2013 #102

"Talk is cheap, Jack. Make your play!" Divernan Jul 2013 #106

He is half white. The Link Jul 2013 #108

President Obama is sometimes (often) a walking contradiction. Nt Blue_In_AK Jul 2013 #113