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ceonupe

(597 posts)
34. how gun control/crime mandatory
Thu Jul 18, 2013, 02:13 AM
Jul 2013

sentencing

10 year min for having a gun during a crime of domestic violence (not an option for the judge or jury really by law if u have gun with u during the act)

10 year min for using gun involving children (state claims she fired in-front of kids as they were beside him)

Mandatory Min sentencing in all cases is a bad idea. You take the ability of the Judge and even the state to recommend less sever sentences based on the unique circumstances of a case. Specifically in this case had the judge had the power she may have gotten only probation or shorter sentence but the judge had no choice and State Atty Angela Corey was proud of the 20 year sentence.

and yes the gun control movement has pushed aggressively for Mandatory sentencing in any crime using a gun preventing judges from weighing the specific of the cases that come before them.

None of the above. Turbineguy Jul 2013 #1
They were written by ALEC to place property rights above human life starroute Jul 2013 #17
+ 1000 We People Jul 2013 #30
they were written for gun humping paranoid racists Skittles Jul 2013 #2
Misrepresenting facts in the first two cases ceonupe Jul 2013 #3
Gun controllers have nothing to do with this upaloopa Jul 2013 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author upaloopa Jul 2013 #6
Do you support tought sentences for using a gun while committing a felony? hack89 Jul 2013 #21
Yes but i dont support mandatory min sentencing laws ceonupe Jul 2013 #35
She should have taken the offered plea deal hack89 Jul 2013 #38
Really. This is not the fault of those of us who want gun control. This is the fault of ... Hekate Jul 2013 #7
I heaven05 Jul 2013 #11
Oh fuck that. Zoeisright Jul 2013 #15
how gun control/crime mandatory ceonupe Jul 2013 #34
Do you have a link backing up your assertion RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #47
Guns = power. Gregorian Jul 2013 #4
Here's how it goes down: upaloopa Jul 2013 #8
But if you're black tblue Jul 2013 #16
This isn't entirely accurate davidn3600 Jul 2013 #9
alexander did not kill anyone, zimmerman did noiretextatique Jul 2013 #10
SYG and Zimmerman billh58 Jul 2013 #13
Yup. tblue Jul 2013 #18
Florida hammers anyone that uses a gun while committing a felony hack89 Jul 2013 #22
The SYG law changed the definition of self-defense significantly. And Hoyt Jul 2013 #12
She probably thought she was protecting her kid. tblue Jul 2013 #19
And I agree 1000% davidn3600 Jul 2013 #23
Sucks. tblue Jul 2013 #27
"The judge had no choice". That sounds suspiciously like "I was just HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #43
Bring all black ppl to California as refugees tblue Jul 2013 #14
It's not complicated at all. locdlib Jul 2013 #20
SYG allows Black shooters to also "get away with murder" in Florida hack89 Jul 2013 #24
What your sample shows. ThoughtCriminal Jul 2013 #25
No it does not hack89 Jul 2013 #28
LOL. Gungeon Math ThoughtCriminal Jul 2013 #29
THANK YOU!! It also says that black men aren't deemed credible enough to even try for SYG bettyellen Jul 2013 #31
There were 36 cases of SYG with a black shooter hack89 Jul 2013 #40
2 convictions vice 1 conviction hack89 Jul 2013 #36
why did YOU bring the stats in then, LOL. you liked them when you THOUGHT they made your point LOL bettyellen Jul 2013 #41
They do support my position hack89 Jul 2013 #42
until they don't and then they are not valid. Mighty tasty word salad you serve up, LOL. bettyellen Jul 2013 #55
Do you understand the statistical validity of extremely small sample sizes? hack89 Jul 2013 #56
Show me a case where SYG does not favor the shooter hack89 Jul 2013 #57
How do you explain the black on white case? hack89 Jul 2013 #39
I see math and data analysis are not your strong telclaven Jul 2013 #45
yeah, it absolutely does, LOL. bettyellen Jul 2013 #32
2 conviction vice 1 conviction hack89 Jul 2013 #37
What is the sample size critical mass? regards uponit7771 Jul 2013 #52
If you are going to hang your hat on a difference of one conviction hack89 Jul 2013 #54
Can you calculate percentages?! tia uponit7771 Jul 2013 #51
Do you understand the statistical validity of extremely small sample sizes? hack89 Jul 2013 #53
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2013 #50
11 to 1 BainsBane Jul 2013 #26
No N number telclaven Jul 2013 #46
Maybe click the link first. RedCappedBandit Jul 2013 #48
I did telclaven Jul 2013 #49
It's a nightmare Matariki Jul 2013 #33
It is way past time that American blacks (and white HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #44
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